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Bellview Airlines adds Dubai
Amadeus CRS shows a weekly Bellview Airlines flight (B3 272) leaving Lagos on Mondays, routing LOS-Freetown-Dubai-Mumbai (India).
Return route ie Mumbai-Dubai-Lagos-Freetown. The other weekly flight to Mumbai is unchanged (LOS-BOM-LOS).
ZAZOO, any truth to this? Probably flying as Bellview Sierra Leone? start-dates?
Return route ie Mumbai-Dubai-Lagos-Freetown. The other weekly flight to Mumbai is unchanged (LOS-BOM-LOS).
ZAZOO, any truth to this? Probably flying as Bellview Sierra Leone? start-dates?
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RECURRING BLUETAIL ADVERTS
BELLVIEW a.k.a "BLUETAIL"(Hope I got it correct this time, Mr Zazoo no disrespect intended)has been running adverts for captains and first officers twice a month in all the national dailies for the past 2 months now.I was wondering if they wouldn't be saving some cash by changing their policy on not type rating their pilots and train a few pilots.Instead of placing weekly adverts for crew whom they do not seem to be recruiting.
Let me know your thoughts fellow Ppruners.
Let me know your thoughts fellow Ppruners.
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does he really have a choice,half his crew attended interviews in aero and virgin and arik,but have any virgin or aero pilots applied to bluetail?
if only they would treat us like human beings for once they would not be having this high turn over of pilots,and i shudder at the quality of pilots cos we all know where the best hands are or are headed to ;vna,arik and aero
good luck kay i think you will need plenty!
if only they would treat us like human beings for once they would not be having this high turn over of pilots,and i shudder at the quality of pilots cos we all know where the best hands are or are headed to ;vna,arik and aero
good luck kay i think you will need plenty!
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Bellview 737-200s and new A320s
Nigeria’s Bellview to replace 737 fleet with A320s
Nigerian carrier Bellview Airlines is to begin replacing its fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft with Airbus A320s from the end of this year. Bellview Airlines managing director Kayode Odukoya disclosed the plan during the IATA Annual General Meeting in Paris. He declines to reveal the source of the jets but says that they will be leased, with deliveries beginning in the fourth quarter of 2006 and continuing to September next year. The engine type is unclear.
Full Article from Airline Business
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...ith+A320s.html
Meanwhile, have some of the 737-200s been returned to the lessor GECAS? Port Harcourt service was reported as discontinued in The Tide. Any news?
Nigerian carrier Bellview Airlines is to begin replacing its fleet of Boeing 737 aircraft with Airbus A320s from the end of this year. Bellview Airlines managing director Kayode Odukoya disclosed the plan during the IATA Annual General Meeting in Paris. He declines to reveal the source of the jets but says that they will be leased, with deliveries beginning in the fourth quarter of 2006 and continuing to September next year. The engine type is unclear.
Full Article from Airline Business
http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles...ith+A320s.html
Meanwhile, have some of the 737-200s been returned to the lessor GECAS? Port Harcourt service was reported as discontinued in The Tide. Any news?
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I find it quite interesting that bluetail is giving line trainning to a few new pilots to my knowledge its only 1 pilot in trainning. I realise that bluetail looses pilots frequently to other operators and they initially trainned a few crew and most have moved on, i think bluetail should look at the reason for the quick turnover rather than wait for crew to type themselves then offer them a job coz being an ex-bluetail myself i find it a great trainning ground and it lets you build your hours quickly
.WE ALL KNOW THE PROBLEM( guys find the a solution, u are a beacon in nigerian aviation. changing fleets wont solve the problem).
IF THEY CHANGE TO A320 WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE 737 CREW AND WILL THEY TYPE CREW?
GOODLUCK BLUETAIL(may the wind always be at your back).
.WE ALL KNOW THE PROBLEM( guys find the a solution, u are a beacon in nigerian aviation. changing fleets wont solve the problem).IF THEY CHANGE TO A320 WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE 737 CREW AND WILL THEY TYPE CREW?
GOODLUCK BLUETAIL(may the wind always be at your back).
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!!!QUOTE FROM 18LEFT!!!
''i shudder at the quality of pilots cos we all know where the best hands are or are headed to ;vna,arik and aero
good luck kay i think you will need plenty!''
funny you put it that way 18left, kindda makes me wonder what kindda fella you must be!!! I will not take offense cos I still dorn my blue shirt in the morning to go fly for Bluetail.
The simple scenario about what is going on with pilots in Nigeria and comments like yours made and blurted out in this manner will soon reveal itself bientot and those of us who just want to be aviators and fly cos we just have it in us, will, maybe, make our reserved comments or observations as the case might be.
Flying for AERO, ARIK OR VNA as the case may be is not the peak of aviation you know old boy. The aviation world is so vast and interesting and maybe some of us will not accept to be limited around LAG!!! Take a good look ol chap
On a more interesting note as it concerns the A320 arrival, well, I think global flyer nailed it, as that is the position of that issue now and for those pilots who are maybe Airbus inclined, well maybe this is the place to be.
The question, if they are serious or will they really put the Airbus fleet together well I think my response to that would be to look back at the Bluetail 767 forums, how it all started and ended!!!
Regards and warm wishes to all,
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darn now where did I put my -300/400/500 typerating folder been 2yrs now
''i shudder at the quality of pilots cos we all know where the best hands are or are headed to ;vna,arik and aero
good luck kay i think you will need plenty!''
funny you put it that way 18left, kindda makes me wonder what kindda fella you must be!!! I will not take offense cos I still dorn my blue shirt in the morning to go fly for Bluetail.
The simple scenario about what is going on with pilots in Nigeria and comments like yours made and blurted out in this manner will soon reveal itself bientot and those of us who just want to be aviators and fly cos we just have it in us, will, maybe, make our reserved comments or observations as the case might be.
Flying for AERO, ARIK OR VNA as the case may be is not the peak of aviation you know old boy. The aviation world is so vast and interesting and maybe some of us will not accept to be limited around LAG!!! Take a good look ol chap
On a more interesting note as it concerns the A320 arrival, well, I think global flyer nailed it, as that is the position of that issue now and for those pilots who are maybe Airbus inclined, well maybe this is the place to be.
The question, if they are serious or will they really put the Airbus fleet together well I think my response to that would be to look back at the Bluetail 767 forums, how it all started and ended!!!
Regards and warm wishes to all,
Zaz
darn now where did I put my -300/400/500 typerating folder been 2yrs now
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ZAZOO,
Bellview is down to 3 x daily to Abuja and suspended PHC and Douala. Dubai flights never took off. What's going on, because it looks like a pilot migration problem. Surely B3 management have a plan, otherwise they will find it tough to source pilots for their A320s (if ever delivered).
Bellview is down to 3 x daily to Abuja and suspended PHC and Douala. Dubai flights never took off. What's going on, because it looks like a pilot migration problem. Surely B3 management have a plan, otherwise they will find it tough to source pilots for their A320s (if ever delivered).
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You are both partially correct, but let me be frank guys this is not due to shortage of crew believe me the crew are available.
And Rani, I operated Douala yesterday and returned this morning to Lagos via PHC, and bluetail have been operating DLA-LBV regularly Sir, actualy I think from my log here looks like I have been operating most of them.
Yes PHC and KAN have been removed from the daily schedule, but Bluetail should resume all flights in the next few days, with the arrival of aircrafts from Addis!!!
And remember guys Bluetails $000,000,000 is the West Coast sector and that is going on as usual, even with our well known delays
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And Rani, I operated Douala yesterday and returned this morning to Lagos via PHC, and bluetail have been operating DLA-LBV regularly Sir, actualy I think from my log here looks like I have been operating most of them.
Yes PHC and KAN have been removed from the daily schedule, but Bluetail should resume all flights in the next few days, with the arrival of aircrafts from Addis!!!
And remember guys Bluetails $000,000,000 is the West Coast sector and that is going on as usual, even with our well known delays
Cheers
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ZAZOO,
You are correct when you talk of the delays of Bellview - they are a disgrace and make Bellview in my eyes just like Cameroon Air used to be. I have never been on time on a Bellview flight and they never to inform their passengers what is happening. It is for that I will fly with VN or Aero and will try Arik, even if they cost more. Bellview need to service their customer, not just their route network
You are correct when you talk of the delays of Bellview - they are a disgrace and make Bellview in my eyes just like Cameroon Air used to be. I have never been on time on a Bellview flight and they never to inform their passengers what is happening. It is for that I will fly with VN or Aero and will try Arik, even if they cost more. Bellview need to service their customer, not just their route network
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Aircraft Maintenance
Originally Posted by ZAZOO
Yes PHC and KAN have been removed from the daily schedule, but Bluetail should resume all flights in the next few days, with the arrival of aircrafts from Addis!!!
Seems like Bellview has light years to go to catch up in customer service. I just hope they can do something before it's too late and the rest of the passengers defect to the new carriers.
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I agree guys!
But what can I say, a year ago we ere the early birds and nicknamed ''NO DELAY'' but its not easy, Bluetail has been through a lot and we are moving in on all these issues.
Its good to see that people have these concerns!!!
No Globalflyer it will not take Bluetail Lightyears to get back in Gear
Zazoo ''striker''
But what can I say, a year ago we ere the early birds and nicknamed ''NO DELAY'' but its not easy, Bluetail has been through a lot and we are moving in on all these issues.
Its good to see that people have these concerns!!!
No Globalflyer it will not take Bluetail Lightyears to get back in Gear
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Well I find Bellview still the same, no improvement. I try to purchase a ticket from Douala to Port Harcourt as advertise on their website, but they have cancel the flight, even though he is still there on internet. To try to book online like they advertise on their website, impossible. Is there nobody, like Arik willing to run small, cheap, reliable aircraft to keep service going to leas profitable destination?
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Absolutly Rubbish whats going on here alghaita ganga!!!!! we operate that schedule and actually I did a few of them myself.
Had to divert last thursday before last could not land in Prt Harcourt due to a massive weather activity in the area, came with 96 Prt Harcourt Bound pax, fixed them on our 1pm flight to PrtHarcourt and that was it.
You lie here and delibrately too.
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You want to fly B3 from Douala to Port then for Gods sake go to our counter in the airport and buy a ticket like my 96pax all did
Rubbish
whats going on here alghaita ganga!!!!! we operate that schedule and actually I did a few of them myself.Had to divert last thursday before last could not land in Prt Harcourt due to a massive weather activity in the area, came with 96 Prt Harcourt Bound pax, fixed them on our 1pm flight to PrtHarcourt and that was it.
You lie here and delibrately too.
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19th June 2006 14:04
You want to fly B3 from Douala to Port then for Gods sake go to our counter in the airport and buy a ticket like my 96pax all did
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A320 or 737-300 for bellview?
Originally Posted by ZAZOO
Its out and about town that Bellview airlines is on track with their plans since may this year to bring in their aircrafts into the country, I gather the 737/320 will be arriving in a matter of days!
While I am proud of the continued efforts of the Bluetail company in advancing the standered of their fleet, even with the sad events that occured lately et al, I must say I worry about the machines they are looking at.
I feel strongly that they should stick to the A320 and actually as they plan by 2007 convert the whole fleet to A320. In doing this they will also convert our local boys and for once and for all break this myth about Airbus in Nigeria .....bla bla bla. If there is one domestic operator who can do it then I think Bluetail Should.
So Mr. CEO if you are reading this thread Zazoo says go Airbus mate and all the way, you will not loose.
What do you think guys 737-!!! or A320.
While I am proud of the continued efforts of the Bluetail company in advancing the standered of their fleet, even with the sad events that occured lately et al, I must say I worry about the machines they are looking at.
I feel strongly that they should stick to the A320 and actually as they plan by 2007 convert the whole fleet to A320. In doing this they will also convert our local boys and for once and for all break this myth about Airbus in Nigeria .....bla bla bla. If there is one domestic operator who can do it then I think Bluetail Should.
So Mr. CEO if you are reading this thread Zazoo says go Airbus mate and all the way, you will not loose.
What do you think guys 737-!!! or A320.
Frankly,
i'll nod at the b737/320 rather than the airbus a320, it's been established that maintaining the b737-300 is slight cheaper that the a320,"and like we know in Nigeria, that word "slightly" could be the determining factor for the survival of any airline over time. I hear even virgin Nigeria will be facing out their a320's in favour of the boeing soon.
Transition training will be cheaper,like they say fly one airbus and you've flown all the series i.e from the a320-a380 (cockpit commonnality) same applies to the boeings, the cockpits may be different (regular or the glass cockpit) but same stuffs like the hydraulic systems, eletrical systems etc are about the same.
Moving from the 737-200 to other series will make them benefit from economies of scale. besides that, bellview surffered a loss not too far away, one would expect them to tread with more caution, frankly i respect that airline, against many odds, they have stood the test of time. They deserve a standing ovation
Let's not ask an A320 to do the job of a Boeing 737-300...and that's not to say i don't love the a320, i do