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Nice to see everyone still in shape and ready for comments.
Nice to be back here to see you all, for a fact, Bluetail gets the first delivery of the A320 19th november 2006, first nigerian crew out for training 14th november.
Good to see you all.
Cheers guys.
Nice to be back here to see you all, for a fact, Bluetail gets the first delivery of the A320 19th november 2006, first nigerian crew out for training 14th november.
Good to see you all.
Cheers guys.
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B3 has not really abandoned the mumbai route, they have had to re-assess whether or not it's a route that makes business sense.
Just flying an airplane for sake of actually having a route is not exactly the wisest thing to do.
Anyway, it looks like they are gearing for the real fight come 2007.
Just flying an airplane for sake of actually having a route is not exactly the wisest thing to do.
Anyway, it looks like they are gearing for the real fight come 2007.
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"Anyway, it looks like they are gearing for the real fight come 2007."
Care to elaborate
I did agree with your comment about the importance of viability for any route. So the question is - Did B3 not undertake any feasibility studies? I mean from the way it looks and their track record of failed routes (AMS, GIG, and now BOM) one is led to believe that their planning department leaves much to be desired. It it true that EK / KQ / ET have increased LOS flights but if a nonstop service to India can't break even then there is something fundamentally wrong with the way Bellview is conducting business.
Just my opinion.
Care to elaborate
I did agree with your comment about the importance of viability for any route. So the question is - Did B3 not undertake any feasibility studies? I mean from the way it looks and their track record of failed routes (AMS, GIG, and now BOM) one is led to believe that their planning department leaves much to be desired. It it true that EK / KQ / ET have increased LOS flights but if a nonstop service to India can't break even then there is something fundamentally wrong with the way Bellview is conducting business.
Just my opinion.
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Rani
Rani,
I agree with your thoughts. Mumbai was resumed after it was suspended a few years back and now we are back where we left.
This gives the impression Bellview will suspend Freetown-London route once it is granted direct Nigeria-UK flights, abandoning its Sierra Leonian wing and its committment to Sierra Leone.
I see British Mediterranean is commencing London-Freetown also, so the question remains whether Bellview is doing enough to remain competitive in the long haul market, and the probable answer is no.
I agree with your thoughts. Mumbai was resumed after it was suspended a few years back and now we are back where we left.
This gives the impression Bellview will suspend Freetown-London route once it is granted direct Nigeria-UK flights, abandoning its Sierra Leonian wing and its committment to Sierra Leone.
I see British Mediterranean is commencing London-Freetown also, so the question remains whether Bellview is doing enough to remain competitive in the long haul market, and the probable answer is no.
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Blue tail F-28
Today and also on Monday there was a darkblue-tailed F-28 doing some of the JNB-GRJ flights for SAX, anyone know why and also to who does this actually belong?
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Well, who am i to comment?
The fact remains that people around that region thrive on trial and error.
What i meant by the real fight, is that i know for a fact that B3 is getting it's act together and, had they had the same chances as Vk, maybe they would be one of the african BIG PLAYERS now.
As for the failed routes, i have no clue but, can only say that they really have started to restructure for the coming year.
I have hope that they'll score points in the future.
Cheers.
The fact remains that people around that region thrive on trial and error.
What i meant by the real fight, is that i know for a fact that B3 is getting it's act together and, had they had the same chances as Vk, maybe they would be one of the african BIG PLAYERS now.
As for the failed routes, i have no clue but, can only say that they really have started to restructure for the coming year.
I have hope that they'll score points in the future.
Cheers.
LJT how nice to see that you are still using any opportunity to have a pop at VK. Bellview were around for a long time before VK so they had lots of opportunities when they were top'ish dog but didn't take them.
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SN,
Good to see you again!
Well regards Vk, i have nothing against them.
I just think that the government backed it a bit too much at the expence of the others.
Dont get me wrong though, it was probably a good thing because had B3 had the oppurtunities, who knows what that CEO of theirs might have become, it has served to humble him now knowing that his pilots can walk at anytime.
Like i said before, i wish them luck.
Good to see you again mate, good show.
Good to see you again!
Well regards Vk, i have nothing against them.
I just think that the government backed it a bit too much at the expence of the others.
Dont get me wrong though, it was probably a good thing because had B3 had the oppurtunities, who knows what that CEO of theirs might have become, it has served to humble him now knowing that his pilots can walk at anytime.
Like i said before, i wish them luck.
Good to see you again mate, good show.
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I have always found Bellview customer relations and their booking system to be very poor. I fly with them only when is necessary because of no other airline on the route. VK on other hand have excellent booking system, and best website in Nigeria. Aero is expensive, but is close second. With Aero I always like their aircrafts and cabin staffs and have the feelings that all is well maintained. There big failings is their check-ins and security staffs who are very rude and aggressive and puts me off flying with them. I hear Aero is buying two 737-400s which will arrive this month. If Bellview is to make the difference you expect it will take more than just a new aircraft, they will have to use extensive PR and restore the image of the company from all those like me they have dissapoint over the last two years. It all very well to say Bellview have unfair advantages, but Aero has done it thing all itself. Bellview have to stop blaming others and do the job you are talking of next year or they will not succeed. I am only speaking from the view of passenger, but that is where the money for all these airlines is coming from at the finish of the day.
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PS. If you go to the Virgin Nigeria website observe the initial page title in your brower, you will notice it says "Virgin Atlantic" for a few seconds.
Fishy!
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I don't know about AERO' 737-400s but a JAT 733 has been repainted in Aero colors recently (YU-ANJ) could this be a net new addition to their fleet? The said a/c is still doing scheduled runs for JAT in Euro.