Virgin Nigeria (threads merged)
AC100 have you never heard of Commercial confidentiality? You can either believe me or not, time will tell, but I have good reason to believe that many of your points are way off the target area.
Mind you it is great to see so much inventive hypothesis
Mind you it is great to see so much inventive hypothesis
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I totally agree with you post. Virgin Nigeria hopefully should start on a right footing. The extremely high recruitment criteria, has only fuelled speculations about their intensions, be it honourable i hope.
Nigeria’s Aviation Industry has suffered from under investment and abuse for to long, while technically the industry is years behind the others. It is only normal for patriotic Nigerians to voice their concerns.
Looking back over the past 20 years, local operators have relied on local innovations to get by, while doing their very best to provide a much needed public service. I agree that the local airlines should consider consolidating their operations or wither away. The “Nigerian factor” will make it a Herculean task for them to achieve this.
With the right infrastructures and support in place, Virgin Nigeria will help build bridges across the political and social divide. Patriotic Nigerians must fully stand behind their new airline come what may, for it to survive.
Virgin Nigeria will be competing with a few more established airlines on very profitable routes this should help improve competition. VN should continually look at ingenious ways of driving down operating overheads subject to local conditions; this will be quite difficult task with some service providers still suffering from epileptic fits. Hopefully the price of fares will come down as we have been exploited for to long.
I feel Virgin Nigeria must be favoured over the others airlines by the Federal Government by putting in sensible and fair restrictions, at the moment it seems a few airlines are having a free run in country. These airlines will protest to their own governments if VN were given the similar privileges. A level playing field will be a nice beginning.
I totally agree with you post. Virgin Nigeria hopefully should start on a right footing. The extremely high recruitment criteria, has only fuelled speculations about their intensions, be it honourable i hope.
Nigeria’s Aviation Industry has suffered from under investment and abuse for to long, while technically the industry is years behind the others. It is only normal for patriotic Nigerians to voice their concerns.
Looking back over the past 20 years, local operators have relied on local innovations to get by, while doing their very best to provide a much needed public service. I agree that the local airlines should consider consolidating their operations or wither away. The “Nigerian factor” will make it a Herculean task for them to achieve this.
With the right infrastructures and support in place, Virgin Nigeria will help build bridges across the political and social divide. Patriotic Nigerians must fully stand behind their new airline come what may, for it to survive.
Virgin Nigeria will be competing with a few more established airlines on very profitable routes this should help improve competition. VN should continually look at ingenious ways of driving down operating overheads subject to local conditions; this will be quite difficult task with some service providers still suffering from epileptic fits. Hopefully the price of fares will come down as we have been exploited for to long.
I feel Virgin Nigeria must be favoured over the others airlines by the Federal Government by putting in sensible and fair restrictions, at the moment it seems a few airlines are having a free run in country. These airlines will protest to their own governments if VN were given the similar privileges. A level playing field will be a nice beginning.
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Competition on International Routes
Oyindo,
I agree, the government will have to slow down in granting more frequencies to international carriers. For example, Emirates has just received two extra frequencies and from October, will fly daily into Lagos. I think it's fine as this particular market will easily accomodate Virgin Nigeria as well.
However, I think government should stop short of granting more frequencies and in particular, to secondary entry points like Abuja and Port Harcourt. VNA can capitalize on being given exclusive route rights to operate internationally from Abuja and Port Harcourt (Abuja-Dubai, Abuja-London, Port Harcourt-London, etc).
I agree, the government will have to slow down in granting more frequencies to international carriers. For example, Emirates has just received two extra frequencies and from October, will fly daily into Lagos. I think it's fine as this particular market will easily accomodate Virgin Nigeria as well.
However, I think government should stop short of granting more frequencies and in particular, to secondary entry points like Abuja and Port Harcourt. VNA can capitalize on being given exclusive route rights to operate internationally from Abuja and Port Harcourt (Abuja-Dubai, Abuja-London, Port Harcourt-London, etc).
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Has anyone noticed this!!
On the Phillips Consulting website, there's a small caption which says this:
Does this mean that everyone who applied prior to these reference numbers being added to the website today wont be considered? If thats the case, a whole lot of people need to go back and re-apply. Hopefully this wouldn't be the case. But worth checking it out though.
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AC100...perhaps VN should never come into being....it certainly seems based on your previous posts you are quite happy with the staus quo.
It is narrow thinkers like yourself who exist purely to protect your own little piece of the pie....that call a halt to progress. Certainly Branson is in it for the money...why else would he be there?...and yes Nigerian aircrew may just miss out, but what about the infrastructure improvements?..what about the improved access to external markets?..what about the injection of foreign investment and intellectual capital into a country that is in desperate need of it?...I doubt those in Nigera who benefit will be so keen to trample on this venture before it has a chance to prove..or disprove itself.
It is narrow thinkers like yourself who exist purely to protect your own little piece of the pie....that call a halt to progress. Certainly Branson is in it for the money...why else would he be there?...and yes Nigerian aircrew may just miss out, but what about the infrastructure improvements?..what about the improved access to external markets?..what about the injection of foreign investment and intellectual capital into a country that is in desperate need of it?...I doubt those in Nigera who benefit will be so keen to trample on this venture before it has a chance to prove..or disprove itself.
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VNA A320s Rolled Out!
Here it is, A320-212 LZ-BHD MSN 211 is the first of two Virgin Nigeria A320s on wet-lease from BH Air (Bulgaria). I believe they may wet or dry-lease a third variant from the same source. This batch of aircraft precedes another wave of new aircraft that may be bought/leased from Boeing or Airbus, depending on the outcome of VNA's negotiations with the manufacturers.
Recent photos of Virgin Nigeria LZ-BHD
At Sofia Airport, Bulgaria on April 9th, 2005
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/view...av2&picid=1860
At Brussels Airport, Belgium departing to Sofia, on April 9th, 2005
http://members.lycos.nl/rafaeldelaed...in_nigeria.jpg
Could this a/c be in Nigeria already ?
Recent photos of Virgin Nigeria LZ-BHD
At Sofia Airport, Bulgaria on April 9th, 2005
http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/view...av2&picid=1860
At Brussels Airport, Belgium departing to Sofia, on April 9th, 2005
http://members.lycos.nl/rafaeldelaed...in_nigeria.jpg
Could this a/c be in Nigeria already ?
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Gentlemen, somehow I am lacking in understanding what this whole who wha about recruitment of Nigerian Pilots versus expatriate Pilots is all about. I would suggest that somebody gets up and starts counting to find out how many unemployed Nigerian Pilots are really available in the labour market.
I am sure when you remove the once that are above command age you will find it difficult to get more than two hands full.
Once you realize that the NCAT in Zaria hasn't turned out a Pilot on 17 years you will understand what I mean by that (Yes, I am aware that they have just completed on course - but surely they can't be qualified).
For all other aspects of the confusion called VN I wouldn't want to contribute to the speculations - the only comment I have to make is this is Nigeria and it doesn't fly until it flies !!!
I'm sure some of you know what I mean by that - for the rest - anything can happen.
Good Luck to whomever else might be trying
I am sure when you remove the once that are above command age you will find it difficult to get more than two hands full.
Once you realize that the NCAT in Zaria hasn't turned out a Pilot on 17 years you will understand what I mean by that (Yes, I am aware that they have just completed on course - but surely they can't be qualified).
For all other aspects of the confusion called VN I wouldn't want to contribute to the speculations - the only comment I have to make is this is Nigeria and it doesn't fly until it flies !!!
I'm sure some of you know what I mean by that - for the rest - anything can happen.
Good Luck to whomever else might be trying
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Gentlemen,
After reading what has been written it still worries me that we are dancing around the issue. Okada, Kabo and even Bellview Airlines took pilots straight out of school on BAC-111, B727 and B737 without disasterous consequencies what makes VN so different as some said they are going to operate locally initially so why the harsh requirments. We dont use JAA here in nigeria to fly and i have flown foreign registered aircraft on dispensation on more than one occassion. Once a pilot has a very good initial training the chances are high s/he will be a good pilot no matter what they fly. I personnaly think a national carrier is a blessing and if it takes Richie to give it to us, so be it.
On the subject of racism let me say i aint close to being racist, but take a look at requirements in UK companies!!!
Those who have felt it know what i am talking about.....
TRAINNING CAPTAINS: OK
CAPTAINS AND FO: THINK NOT.
Can someone tell me how many nigerian F/Os have a jaa state issued ATPL or even how many F/Os have any sort of ATPL and 3000hrs JET in nigeria.
If we meet those requirements i think Richie should give us a job at VA flying out of lagos on the 747/340.
By the way AERO had/has an expat F/O building hours till he gets a better job. CHECK IT OUT.
After reading what has been written it still worries me that we are dancing around the issue. Okada, Kabo and even Bellview Airlines took pilots straight out of school on BAC-111, B727 and B737 without disasterous consequencies what makes VN so different as some said they are going to operate locally initially so why the harsh requirments. We dont use JAA here in nigeria to fly and i have flown foreign registered aircraft on dispensation on more than one occassion. Once a pilot has a very good initial training the chances are high s/he will be a good pilot no matter what they fly. I personnaly think a national carrier is a blessing and if it takes Richie to give it to us, so be it.
On the subject of racism let me say i aint close to being racist, but take a look at requirements in UK companies!!!
Those who have felt it know what i am talking about.....
TRAINNING CAPTAINS: OK
CAPTAINS AND FO: THINK NOT.
Can someone tell me how many nigerian F/Os have a jaa state issued ATPL or even how many F/Os have any sort of ATPL and 3000hrs JET in nigeria.
If we meet those requirements i think Richie should give us a job at VA flying out of lagos on the 747/340.
By the way AERO had/has an expat F/O building hours till he gets a better job. CHECK IT OUT.
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There are very many suitably qualified pilots in Nigeria that will meet the present recruitment criteria for VN. Many of these pilots now work for the local airlines. There won’t be many sitting under the famous job seekers tree at the local airport. With the proposed terms and conditions going to be offered by VN, it will only make sense for these pilots to consider moving to greener pastures. This is going to put a serious strain on local airlines to retain staff, thus possibly forcing them to improve their conditions. This can only be a win-win situation for the local pilots.
Local Airlines over the years have managed to get their pilots from the ever aging pilot pool. Lack of serious investment in training of new pilots will sure come back to hunt the industry. The Government’s plan, to privatise the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology Zaria, will be a step in the right direction, but it is going to take time and resources to bring the college back to its recognised high international standards. Airline operators must seriously consider, sponsorships schemes for the time being.
Presently, there are age restrictions which prevent pilots over 60 years from flying over and in to certain countries air spaces within Europe and the US, this will limit some pilot’s flight routes. It is therefore very important that steps are taken, sooner rather than later, to bring down the average age of pilots within Nigeria. There is a younger generation of Turbo Prop pilots that could be drawn by VN if there is a review of the recruitment criteria. I can assure you it won’t be very long before ageism will be come a problem. (Age declaration dey, for dem wey no wan gree).
As for the Bulgaria registered A320 aircraft (LZ-BHD) and others, I believe that wet leasing of aircraft will be a short term solution to getting VN off the ground. Bulgaria isn’t part of the EU until 2007. I don’t believe the Bulgaria aircrafts will be dry leased; there is quite a high unemployment rate in that region. A wet lease agreement will surely be beneficial to the Bulgarians.
Training on the A320 takes about 6 weeks and with zero flight time training (no base training required) pilots could go straight from the simulator into line training. With about 20 line training sectors they will be safe enough to operate with an experienced crew until they gain the minimum time to be released.
With relevant agreements between the Bulgarian and Nigerian aviation authorities it will be possible to get the Nigerian Pilots up to speed and fully rated in no time at all. ACN is quite a good example of how things should be done.
If it is going to be the B733 - B739 NG’s, these aircrafts are considered to be a different type rating to the B737-200. Even though there are many rated pilots on the B732, it will take about 4 -6 weeks to get pilots fully trained and checked out.
Everything depends on what aircraft types will be joining VN.
Local Airlines over the years have managed to get their pilots from the ever aging pilot pool. Lack of serious investment in training of new pilots will sure come back to hunt the industry. The Government’s plan, to privatise the Nigerian College of Aviation Technology Zaria, will be a step in the right direction, but it is going to take time and resources to bring the college back to its recognised high international standards. Airline operators must seriously consider, sponsorships schemes for the time being.
Presently, there are age restrictions which prevent pilots over 60 years from flying over and in to certain countries air spaces within Europe and the US, this will limit some pilot’s flight routes. It is therefore very important that steps are taken, sooner rather than later, to bring down the average age of pilots within Nigeria. There is a younger generation of Turbo Prop pilots that could be drawn by VN if there is a review of the recruitment criteria. I can assure you it won’t be very long before ageism will be come a problem. (Age declaration dey, for dem wey no wan gree).
As for the Bulgaria registered A320 aircraft (LZ-BHD) and others, I believe that wet leasing of aircraft will be a short term solution to getting VN off the ground. Bulgaria isn’t part of the EU until 2007. I don’t believe the Bulgaria aircrafts will be dry leased; there is quite a high unemployment rate in that region. A wet lease agreement will surely be beneficial to the Bulgarians.
Training on the A320 takes about 6 weeks and with zero flight time training (no base training required) pilots could go straight from the simulator into line training. With about 20 line training sectors they will be safe enough to operate with an experienced crew until they gain the minimum time to be released.
With relevant agreements between the Bulgarian and Nigerian aviation authorities it will be possible to get the Nigerian Pilots up to speed and fully rated in no time at all. ACN is quite a good example of how things should be done.
If it is going to be the B733 - B739 NG’s, these aircrafts are considered to be a different type rating to the B737-200. Even though there are many rated pilots on the B732, it will take about 4 -6 weeks to get pilots fully trained and checked out.
Everything depends on what aircraft types will be joining VN.
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hey you guys out there,have you seen the requirements the dumb englishmen have put out for virginnigeria entry qualifications?maybe the virgin eggheads require this same requirements for british pilots in england your guess is as good as mine they mest subscibe to NASA to fill out those positions Enter thje limmeys with discrimination again i guess the idea is to secure jobs for out of work british pilots .we are watching
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Dejidip,
I'd suggest you spare us from your OWN dumb posts like the racist one you've posted above.
Do some research and you'll find that Virgin Atlantic won't employ any First Officers with less than 3,000 hours logged on jets. This is not to suggest that I believe they should apply their same standards in Nigeria, but I think what they've asked for is what they are wishing for. They WILL employ Nigerians, no doubts about that, but I doubt many have applied, and as the above posts suggest, there is a shortage of younger pilots remotely qualified and there is an excess of older pilots who are approaching retirement. Let's wait to see the outcome of their recruitment in a few months.
I'd suggest you spare us from your OWN dumb posts like the racist one you've posted above.
Do some research and you'll find that Virgin Atlantic won't employ any First Officers with less than 3,000 hours logged on jets. This is not to suggest that I believe they should apply their same standards in Nigeria, but I think what they've asked for is what they are wishing for. They WILL employ Nigerians, no doubts about that, but I doubt many have applied, and as the above posts suggest, there is a shortage of younger pilots remotely qualified and there is an excess of older pilots who are approaching retirement. Let's wait to see the outcome of their recruitment in a few months.
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I've received some complaints regarding dejidip's post - whilst it is probably offensive to some I'm going leave it as testament that there are different points of view and as evidence that this site does act as a virtual melting pot for such varied opinions.
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Virgin Nigeria begins domestic operations on Monday
By Wale Shadare
PENDING the conclusion of arrangements for its international operations, Virgin Nigeria, the nation's flag carrier may begin test flights on domestic routes on Monday.
The airline, The Guardian learnt, will first operate to Abuja and Port Harcourt from Lagos before it expands operations to other parts of the country.
Already, Sky Power Aviation Handling Company Limited (SAHCOL) which will handle the airline's Port Harcourt and Abuja operations has commenced training for its ground handling staff. That of Lagos will be handled by the Nigerian Aviation Handling Company (NAHCO).
A source told journalists yesterday that all logistics and equipment had been put in place to meet up with the challenges.
Only last week the airline disclosed that all was set for the wholly owned private sector driven carrier to commence operations as it had raised from Nigerian institutional investors N3.57billion, which adds to the N3.43billion from Virgin Atlantic, its strategic partner investor.
Some domestic airline operators have however expressed concern on the commencement of Virgin Nigeria domestic operations. Their concern is born out of the fear that they may be sent out of the market while others however saw it as a welcome development.
According to the Operations Manager of Chanchangi Airlines, Alhaji Mohammed Tukur, the development will engender a healthy competition. To him, it will make other airlines to sit up and offer quality service at an affordable rate.
Virgin Nigeria is the registered private sector flag carrier of Nigeria. The airline was formally established on September 28, 2004 with the signing of the Memorandum of Mutual Understanding by the Federal Government and Virgin Atlantic Airways, the strategic investor/technical partner in the country's new flag carrier project.
Fifty one percent of the airline is owned by Nigerian Institutional Investors from across the country, via a hugely successful private placement process early in the year. The 49 percent balance is held by Virgin Atlantic Limited. Share ownership in the new flag carrier will be widened in the future to all Nigerian Investors through an Initial Public Offering (IPO) on the Nigerian Stock Exchange.
Meanwhile, Mr. Felix Ohiwerei has been appointed chairman of the airline at its first board meeting held last month. The airline has also commenced training for its ticketing, reservations, airport and office staff.
The airline has however disclosed that its first set of Virgin Nigeria cabin crew will soon be gaining their 'Wings' upon successful completion of the course.
By Wale Shadare
PENDING the conclusion of arrangements for its international operations, Virgin Nigeria, the nation's flag carrier may begin test flights on domestic routes on Monday.
The airline, The Guardian learnt, will first operate to Abuja and Port Harcourt from Lagos before it expands operations to other parts of the country.
Already, Sky Power Aviation Handling Company Limited (SAHCOL) which will handle the airline's Port Harcourt and Abuja operations has commenced training for its ground handling staff. That of Lagos will be handled by the Nigerian Aviation Handling Company (NAHCO).
A source told journalists yesterday that all logistics and equipment had been put in place to meet up with the challenges.
Only last week the airline disclosed that all was set for the wholly owned private sector driven carrier to commence operations as it had raised from Nigerian institutional investors N3.57billion, which adds to the N3.43billion from Virgin Atlantic, its strategic partner investor.
Some domestic airline operators have however expressed concern on the commencement of Virgin Nigeria domestic operations. Their concern is born out of the fear that they may be sent out of the market while others however saw it as a welcome development.
According to the Operations Manager of Chanchangi Airlines, Alhaji Mohammed Tukur, the development will engender a healthy competition. To him, it will make other airlines to sit up and offer quality service at an affordable rate.
Virgin Nigeria is the registered private sector flag carrier of Nigeria. The airline was formally established on September 28, 2004 with the signing of the Memorandum of Mutual Understanding by the Federal Government and Virgin Atlantic Airways, the strategic investor/technical partner in the country's new flag carrier project.
Fifty one percent of the airline is owned by Nigerian Institutional Investors from across the country, via a hugely successful private placement process early in the year. The 49 percent balance is held by Virgin Atlantic Limited. Share ownership in the new flag carrier will be widened in the future to all Nigerian Investors through an Initial Public Offering (IPO) on the Nigerian Stock Exchange.
Meanwhile, Mr. Felix Ohiwerei has been appointed chairman of the airline at its first board meeting held last month. The airline has also commenced training for its ticketing, reservations, airport and office staff.
The airline has however disclosed that its first set of Virgin Nigeria cabin crew will soon be gaining their 'Wings' upon successful completion of the course.
Source = The Guardian
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Guys - so far no offer of any kind has been made to Virgin Atlantic pilots to transfer - even temporarily - to Virgin Nigeria. At this moment VS is desparately short of pilots on the Airbus fleet, and this will continue for many months - probably into 2006. I have no idea where Virgin Nigeria are planning to source their pilots, but I think it very unlikely that it will be from Virgin Atlantic. So relax guys.......!
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Hey guys i really am enjoying the fact that my opinion has generated this healthy outburst,well i guess im entitled to my opinion.and come to think of it mr r..... i believe the future of aviation lies in providing possibilities for the younger ones...i dont see any reasons why you are trying to justify the prohibitive requirements that hsve been posted by vn anyway thats no problem i guess it just means that young pilots will and might not be given the opportunity to grow and might end up openinig aircraft doors for so called over experinced guys who were given a break during thier own growing years i hereby wish geriatics a fun filled flying time with vn.im looking forward to a successful takeoff of vn if and when they start,at least it will make me happy to see that im been flown by very experienced crewmembers on thier way home
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Last week ad in FLIGHT : "we are extremely keen to hear from Nigerian "ex-patriots "
and this week "we are extremely keen to hear from Nigerian expatriates"
I was concerned that it would have been dealing with some famous liberation war or something, with jobs being allocated to veterans. Now it sounds much better.
and this week "we are extremely keen to hear from Nigerian expatriates"
I was concerned that it would have been dealing with some famous liberation war or something, with jobs being allocated to veterans. Now it sounds much better.
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There is nothing wrong generating a healthy debate; you only give us a very bad name with offensive posts, PLEASE be a bit more tactful when posting. We have, a hard enough time from bad publicity, and your post, only makes our task bit more difficult to change that image.
During the seventies and eighties pilots progression rates were unbelievable. There were a few Capts on the DC10 by their late twenties to early thirties; while 2-3 aircraft fleet changes within 3 years was quite normal. The industry was growing rapidly with the acquisition of new aircraft. While pilots were being turned out from NCAT at a rate that graduates were put straight on to the jets, without having to go through ropes, of having to fly most little aircrafts in GA, unlike many of our counterparts in Europe and the States. It was a dream world for pilots until OBJ passed a few decrees (that's a different topic on it's own), which began the decline of the National carrier and the stagnation began. Thus the brain drain started to foreign airlines and to GA.
If you look at a few of the very successful Low cost carriers/flag carriers in Europe, the middle/far east, their unbelievable fleet expansions has forced some into recruiting low hour pilot's, SF/O’s from other airlines being offered direct entry Commands are a few examples. I have made it already known that i don't agree with the very high VN recruitment criteria, it will only prevents growth. We need a kick start and there is nothing wrong in dreaming, that in 10 years time we will have thirty year old Captains flying the A380.
Please let’s debate on sensibly
There is nothing wrong generating a healthy debate; you only give us a very bad name with offensive posts, PLEASE be a bit more tactful when posting. We have, a hard enough time from bad publicity, and your post, only makes our task bit more difficult to change that image.
i believe the future of aviation lies in providing possibilities for the younger ones
If you look at a few of the very successful Low cost carriers/flag carriers in Europe, the middle/far east, their unbelievable fleet expansions has forced some into recruiting low hour pilot's, SF/O’s from other airlines being offered direct entry Commands are a few examples. I have made it already known that i don't agree with the very high VN recruitment criteria, it will only prevents growth. We need a kick start and there is nothing wrong in dreaming, that in 10 years time we will have thirty year old Captains flying the A380.
Please let’s debate on sensibly
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4HP,
I know that there are different opinions posted on this site, but if I was to post a comment refering to "dumb Nigerians", how long would it be allowed to stay before being removed by a moderator, and I would probably be banned from any further posting.
Racism is racism, whichever side it is coming from.
I know that there are different opinions posted on this site, but if I was to post a comment refering to "dumb Nigerians", how long would it be allowed to stay before being removed by a moderator, and I would probably be banned from any further posting.
Racism is racism, whichever side it is coming from.
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The Nigerian College of Aviation Technology graduated 30 students at the end of last year Course no, SP-22. And they are fully qualified ICAO pilots CPL Multi IFR, i don't understand why some previous posters seem to feel otherwise. Many of the SP-21 (the previous NCAT batch, there was a bit of a gap in btwn them) graduates are now Captains on 737s etc ( shock horror). There are a few other pilots who have trained in other countries with the help of govt sponsorships. While the govt has not done as well as it could have, it would be unfair to say the govt has done nothing. There course fees where heavily subsidised by the govt. The govt has also made an impact by pressurising Helo operators into training nigerians as helo pilots, Bristow and aero have been and are sponsoring young nigerians as pilots with success, pan african what about you?.
There is nothing strange about new pilots going straight unto jets it happens in may successful airlines in Africa (KQ, SAA, etc), Europe (BA, Easyjet, Ryanair, etc), USA (some regional jet operators took low time guys during buoyant times pre-9/11), ASia/Middle east (Emirates, Oman air, Sri Lanka, etc), South america, etc,etc.
In nigeria many ab intio pilots have successfully converted unto jets without breaking any planes or ophaning any children.
We are talking about fully automated plastic Airbus aircraft here
for goodness sake.
VA and VNA crew requiremnts should not be the same, if the decide to use these requirements for VNA long haul they have my blessing.
There is nothing strange about new pilots going straight unto jets it happens in may successful airlines in Africa (KQ, SAA, etc), Europe (BA, Easyjet, Ryanair, etc), USA (some regional jet operators took low time guys during buoyant times pre-9/11), ASia/Middle east (Emirates, Oman air, Sri Lanka, etc), South america, etc,etc.
In nigeria many ab intio pilots have successfully converted unto jets without breaking any planes or ophaning any children.
We are talking about fully automated plastic Airbus aircraft here
for goodness sake.VA and VNA crew requiremnts should not be the same, if the decide to use these requirements for VNA long haul they have my blessing.