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Old 20th Dec 2006, 17:49
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Virgin Nigeria Recruiting

Hi guys!

Someone knows more in detail if they are really desperate for recruiting also low hours pilot(500 for a F/O), or it is only a well-done advert.

It is very difficult to get an interview?

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Old 20th Dec 2006, 22:30
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VK in Flight Delay Crisis?

VK has been having a sustained trend of flight delays now for more than two weeks now and i think it is getting out of hand.Of course, VK has been offering so many different kinds of explanations for each daily flight delay ranging from WX, to conveyor belt problems at DNMM,etc but for an airline aiiming to be world class, it should not become synonymous with delays I do not not know where the actual problem lies, but VK's public relations is really poor in terms of handling the delay crisis it is presently facing.Tne VK pilots though seem to be the only ones who can ably calm down pax .
But it is a fact that VK has a crisis in its hands.The delays are unbecoming. Maybe VK should understudy aero
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 06:01
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FT,

I second your thoughts. VK PR leaves much to be desired. Although and to give them them credit they managed the Hajj very impressively, they seem to be lagging behind in most other areas like punctuality, product competitiveness, new destinations roll-out, and marketing in general.
The common excuses: crew rostering problems, weather, fuel shortages, closed runways, being a young airline....At least that last one no longer applies as the airline approaches its 3rd anniversary of inception. Today their ops are marred mostly by the ground staff who refuse to assume responsability. There seems to be a lack of creativity or motivation to tackle the hurdles. I hope they don't take for granted their title of Nigeria's "largest airline" and its flag carrier.

VK people will start bashing me now but i ask them this: Didn't Richard Branson promise a "world class airline" back in 2004? Is there any end in sight to the lame excuses? Nigeria has the market and a reasonable infrastructure today to host a truly international-status carrier. In the meantime, ET, KQ, EK and soon QR will soon devour most of the pie on the continent if left unchecked.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 08:22
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I will not try to defend VK, only to say what I know from sources. I'm sure that VK's PR or at least "keeping passengers informed" leaves a lot to be desired.
I know that 2 days ago, 5N-VNA left the country for scheduled maintenance. That same day, the airline had VNG & VNF AOG which was not planned. I also heard that yesterday, 20thDEC, all the flights to QOW left very late and I definitely know that this was due to bad wx at the destination. In fact the first 2 flights to QOW left within 15mins of each other after the weather had lifted. Being close to the airline, I know the reasons for the delays but my view is that the ops staff at the airports have not been communicating effectively.

BTW, I was on an Aero flight to ENU only 5 days ago that was delayed for 2 hours with no explanation to pax.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 13:56
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AG and TB,
I shall not trade words with either of you; most asurredly, i can tell you that VK did not depart after hours as claimed.
I have checked with those who flew the airplane on the said day, and they disagree with the claims of AG, therefore, i am inclined to believe that AG maybe got it wrong, as i know right now in nigeria it would be suicidal to make a slip up like that and not be noticed.
As you all are aware, the industry is going through a lot of reform at the moment, and when things are as hot as they are right now, that claim would NOT go unnoticed.
I have no need to stand in defence of Vk or any other carrier in nigeria, if something is wrong, IT IS! And it would be only wise to try to correct past mistakes.
My post was not designed as an attack, but a way to get you to tell us what actually occured, and look into it!
Having said this, i must say that the crew on board swear you are wrong, and the records of arrival at the tower back their story.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 17:50
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Mr LJT,

You say
most asurredly, i can tell you that VK did not depart after hours as claimed.
I have checked with those who flew the airplane on the said day, and they disagree with the claims of AG, therefore, i am inclined to believe that AG maybe got it wrong
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That's most strange, as nowhere have I ever said the day of the flight I was on. I wonder who you check with? As a result of your reply I have contact a number of other passengers who travelled with me on that day. You say that the records of arrival at the tower back some story of a crew who flew the aircraft on a day you do not even know. We are talking here about departure. Have you make visit to the tower in Lagos or Owerri yourself? I arrived in Lagos with 2 friends and their driver knows the time we arrive there also. I have reported the matter now to VK and if I have no satisfactory response I will take the time to pay a visit to NCAA when next I visit Lagos, with names of other persons on the flight, and the date, and make official complaint
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 20:43
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Thumbs down

Hm, LJT, I have looked and AG is quite right, he has nowhere said when he made this flight the 2 of you can't let go. Looks as if you're hoist by your own petard mate! Why don't the 2 of you just let it be - looks as if he's taking it further with VK anyway.
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 01:20
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Just for the records, only a handful of flights have departed owerri since VK began servicing the route.
And the latest departure reported does not fall within your claims, you may please go ahead and take it up with whoever you choose, like i said before, if something is wrong, IT CERTAINLY IS!
That was my piece, asking the crew to research all flights and see which one you may possibly be refering to.
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 08:20
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LJT,
VK has been operating at least 3 flights a day from Owerri for the last couple of months. My company has been using them to move our personnel between PH and Lagos. I flew several flights into Owerri the day after DNPO was closed and I have a photo of a VK aircraft next to my helicopter there taken on 19 August.
Last week, I flew from Owerri to Lagos myself and the VK flight departed after dark. I was rather surprised at this and, although I was glad not to have to spend the night in Owerri, I mentioned to my company that it did not seem a safe thing to do. I don't know if this is the flight that AG was on, but if he PMs me I'll let him know.
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 12:04
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Originally Posted by soggyboxers
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VK has been operating at least 3 flights a day from Owerri for the last couple of months. My company has been using them to move our personnel between PH and Lagos. I flew several flights into Owerri the day after DNPO was closed and I have a photo of a VK aircraft next to my helicopter there taken on 19 August.
Last week, I flew from Owerri to Lagos myself and the VK flight departed after dark. I was rather surprised at this and, although I was glad not to have to spend the night in Owerri, I mentioned to my company that it did not seem a safe thing to do. I don't know if this is the flight that AG was on, but if he PMs me I'll let him know.
If you see smoke something must be burning somewhere.
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 14:27
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I have been contacted by AG regarding his flight and it seems we were both on the same flight from Owerri to Lagos. I will not mention the date here because the facts may end up being further 'blurred' by uninformed speculation. On his behalf I have contacted both Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Nigeria because of the bad publicity it could create, particularly amongst the many large foreign companies which recommend that their staff travel only with Virgin or aero in Nigeria. All I do know is what he reported is factual.
I don't know if the flight complied with the VK OMB and I await a reply to my e-mails. I will report them on this forum to (hopefully) clear the matter up. Let's hope this fruitless debate can now be laid to rest without further rancour or insults being exchanged
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 21:53
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Salary AT VIRGIN NIGERIA

HI , I just got the email for an interview for VN, however they are not paying for my transportation from Canada to the UK. So before I accept it, does any one know what VN pays a 737 FO and what the schedule is like and what airline passes we get.
Your help is great appreciated
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Old 23rd Dec 2006, 06:43
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[quote Revnetwork;
BTW, I was on an Aero flight to ENU only 5 days ago that was delayed for 2 hours with no explanation to pax.[/quote]

Sir i think this is a MAJOR BURNING issue for vk ie on time departures,i was at a bar till late night this week,and for an hour at my table,the discussion centered on how horrible vks on time departure was with each person having a story to tell of how vk messed up one appointment on the other,aero may have issues with on time performance but its not,as bad as vks.unfortunately for vk,most issues lie with thier contractors and the dreaded international terminal,but try telling that to your customers...
one of the guys at the bar a frequent flyer to abuja made clear that if one is in a hurry steer clear of vk..its a reputation they need to shred asap
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Old 23rd Dec 2006, 06:56
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check past threads someone posted all thier conditions of service including salaries in naira.
1$=130 naira
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Old 23rd Dec 2006, 08:11
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I rest my case, i am not there to physically verify what is claimed or what feed back i get from the crew i know, once again, if something is wrong; IT SIMPLY IS! Go for it guys!
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Old 23rd Dec 2006, 19:56
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still unclear

Still dont know what you get payed a month. Any body know out there?
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Old 24th Dec 2006, 18:39
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Virgin Nigeria

I was curious if any current or past Virgin Nigeria crews could tell me what kind of accomodations, transportation and security the company provides when you are in Nigeria. I also have another question regarding the income tax. Ive read that Nigeria can tax 5-30% of your income, how much are the first year FO's taxed and does that apply to overseas citizens as well?

Any of this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. PM if you would like.
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Virgin Nigeria

I was curious if any current or past Virgin Nigeria crews could tell me what kind of accomodations, transportation and security the company provides when you are in Nigeria. I also have another question regarding the income tax. Ive read that Nigeria can tax 5-30% of your income, how much are the first year FO's taxed and does that apply to overseas citizens as well?

Any of this information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. PM if you would like.
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Old 24th Dec 2006, 18:46
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Thumbs up Vk Reply Flight OWR - LOS

I'm delighted to be able to say that my e-mail to Virgin Nigeria has elicited a most prompt and satisfactory reply from Tony Mackenzie, their Director of Flight Operations. I'm sure he won't mind if I publish it below:
Thank you for your e-mail.
I was surprised to find, after some investigation, that your flight had indeed departed after official sundown from Owerri. I have taken the following actions:
Issued a notice to all our pilots reminding them that the airfield is day only and close at 1840 local. In addition, I have reminded all my Captains that as the commander of the aircraft, although Air Traffic Control may offer them an illegal departure, it is their decision and they must not be influenced. There are no taxiway, runway or approach lights at Owerri and as such it is a daytime operation only.
I have changed our schedules into Owerri, to ensure we can turn around and depart without fail before sundown. If we cannot, due to delays, then we will night stop and put passengers and crew into hotels.
I hope you will, on this occasion, accept my sincere apologies for your discomfort and you have my assurance that Virgin Nigeria operates to the highest safety standards including JAR-OPS1 and NCARS – whichever are the most restrictive.
We take safety very seriously and assure you that we have listened to you and taken the appropriate actions stated above.
I hope you'll all agree with me that Virgin's reply was most prompt and the actions of the company wholly appropriate. I'm sure the crew meant well and just wanted to make sure their passengers arrived in Lagos that night.
I hope that this incident has now been laid to rest and that LJT and AG can at least talk to each other, even if they'll never be friends
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Old 24th Dec 2006, 20:35
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Virgin Medical

I have a cat 1 medical, but on my last airline interview the airline had a higher standard for hearing. AS i flew over 6000 in propeller aircraft I did have some hearing loss and got turned down . Any idea what the Virgin Niegeria medical is like?
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