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Old 30th Jul 2006, 14:32
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Add for B737 crew in Sunday Times

Check out career section in todays Sunday Times, 30 july 2006.

Problem is that the e-mail address seems to be non-existant as it was return to me "undelivered".

Could this be the SAA low cost airline crew hiring process?

Their e-mail add quoted as : [email protected]

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Old 30th Jul 2006, 15:02
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hello

hello mate!

Did you find the e-mail?



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Old 30th Jul 2006, 19:50
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Yes, it is the SAA LCC ad.
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Old 31st Jul 2006, 06:48
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I must have missed that one, had a second hand newspaper. I only saw the ad for Interlink which if I have my facts right is Murads' airline? What did the add say?
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Could somebody please post the ad here?
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For what it's worth, there it is....
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Interesting....if I was management at.....(thinking of examples.....) say, Nationwide, I would be at least slightly concerned, and furiously firing off memo's recommending salary increases all round. Any other companies who should be worried?
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hey romeo, you say that address is u/s, did any of you manage to get the correct email addy? thanks for the ad shreke, its a pain in tha a to get that kind of thing up here on contract.
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Address is good AFAIK. It seems their mailbox got hit by a wave of CVs that put it under serious pressure.

Keep trying, boet...
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Old 31st Jul 2006, 13:55
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Any idea of what the salaries are going to be? Heard in the region of R250 - R300K/year for F/O's and R500k/year for Capt's. Anyone care to shed any light?
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 07:32
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Despite this being the first advert published for this new airline, there have already been appointments made, both for Captains and F.O.'s.

Contracts being signed today.
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Yes, they've already approached people they could think of off the top of their heads. Anybody know how many positions are available in total, and how many have already been filled?

Just a note, that email address won't work at the moment since the inbox appears to be full.
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 14:30
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This is hard to believe, but possible..

Anyone know some1 personally, who has already signed?
Is it not possible that these are people who have already been for the std/previous SAA Interview sessions and were successfull i.e Shortlisted.

A colleague of mine is in this position, and a few weeks back he was of the opinion that they would be called first, 2b offered these positions

If this is however not the case i.e. that those being called are rather just relatives of the Airbus Formation Team, then it is bollocks anyway.
Believe me, you probably don't want to work there either then...

I know, it is easier said than done, but in the long run "Easy Come - Easy Go".

Overall, if things follow the normal flow of things, it is gr8 for the whole industry and I believe Pilot's at all levels should start feeling a bit more "positive".

Possible vacancies then at SAX, Comair, 1Time and NW, as well as the ripple effect lower down

Just wondering what's gonna happen to the current SAA Drivers then?
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 15:12
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Don't think you will find many vacancies at SAX or Comair at the scales bandied about. Very few SAX pilots will have 1000 hrs PIC in a/c >55 tonnes, so they will have to go as FO's.

I can't see Comair guys leaving either, but that's just my opinion.
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Maybe FO's...?

Anyway, think things are slowly on the "up", especially considering that Cathay will also be interviewing in SA again next week.

I personally know 4 candidates that have been invited for these, and thats just me..
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Originally Posted by Q4NVS
....those being called are rather just relatives of the Airbus Formation Team....
The example I've been told about was at least a member of the Boeing formation team. As far as I've been told, he turned the offer down, as did some others, but all training posts (for example) have apparently been filled, or so the story goes. In the tradition of these kind of posts on these forums, its a rumour, but well founded apparently.

I think it will have a positive effect on the whole, especially if local airlines see employees moving off to the likes of Cathay, Gulf, Emirates etc (which is definately happening, so it's not just options from local airlines that are the be all and end all of the SA job market)

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I can't see Comair guys leaving either, but that's just my opinion.
I second that - which is why I mentioned Nationwide. This (as usual) looks to be the airline most likely to face multiple resignations all of a sudden. Depending on the number of people required for this LCC - as I asked before, anybody with any info on numbers required? I always support Nationwide, kind of a 'support the underdog' feeling' (plus some friends there), but sometimes the management there seems to have blinkers on?

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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 07:48
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Maybe this will shed some light on the subject - This is an extract of an interview on World at Six (6th July 2006), between Bruce Whitfield and Gareth Griffins (SAA's acting Chief Financial Officer).

Bruce Whitfield:
It is great news for consumers certainly. Comair has got 23 aircraft altogether including the Comair and the Kulula fleet. How big is your fleet going to be in this particular space?

Gareth Griffins:
In terms of the SAA fleet in total, we have got 70 aircraft currently of which four will be moved across to the low-cost carrier, completely arm's length. We will take it from there and see how it evolves. We anticipate taking it up to 10 aircraft in a short space of time, just in the low-cost airline.


Previously, I had a rumour that SAA is looking at a figure of approximately 7 Crews per aircraft, the idea being that they will fly maximum hours per month with the aircraft spending the minimum time on the ground (but that was hear-say...)

With 4 aircraft initially, that is already 28 Crews (i.e. 56 Pilots). When this becomes 10 aircraft as quoted, the numbers do grow significantly.

My question still is, what about the "current" drivers..?
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My question still is, what about the "current" drivers..?
They'll be getting the 38% MOP increase......
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Eish!

And loose their jobs a month later...?
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Old 2nd Aug 2006, 10:00
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I had a asked about the SAA crews in another forum

and was told that they would not be flying Lo-co at all.

However my question is this - If the expansion is going to happen as planned i.e. from 4 - 10 aircraft in <1year where are the pax going to come from. Even though most of the key economic fundamentals point to growth, I simply don't see this level of growth happening. The Lo-co market is now far more mature - domestically speaking anyway.

So surely there has to be a casualty - Nationwide and/or 1-Time?

If SAA Lo-co has identified these areas of growth to be regional as opposed to just domestic then this would beg the question of BASA's as this airline is meant to be independent of SAA so surely couldn't be automatically granted rights on existing BASA's. Which then leads me to ask whether any one knows if the new airline has an AOC yet? SUrely now that we're in August and they want to fly November - that's not much time.

I'm sure that messers Bricknell and Novack et al will be making many a telephone call to their lawyers in the coming months.
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