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As soon as ZSMUM is serviceable flights will commence to the UK.
No date is set for the return flights - they are looking for someone in the UK to do the c checks there before the a/c will be able to return.
Apparantly they are also struggling with crew accom at (for night stops) Langebaan, Kleinzee, Alex Bay, Luderitz, Walvis Bay. Once they have sorted those out, they will announce the date....
As soon as ZSMUM is serviceable flights will commence to the UK.
No date is set for the return flights - they are looking for someone in the UK to do the c checks there before the a/c will be able to return.
Apparantly they are also struggling with crew accom at (for night stops) Langebaan, Kleinzee, Alex Bay, Luderitz, Walvis Bay. Once they have sorted those out, they will announce the date....
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Heard today that civair have had the audacity to launch a web-site today selling tickets to the public for an airline that does not exist!!!!- all he has is the licence- nothing more- nothing less!! All I can say is PASOP!! Penny wise- pound foolish!
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Latest press release:
FLIGHTS
Fly low-cost to London
Staff reporter
Posted Wed, 12 May 2004
Civair Airways, the new low-cost international airline which will begin flights from Cape Town and Durban direct to London later this year, has launched its website, www.civair.com, and is now open for bookings.
Civair's thrice-weekly Cape Town to London service will begin on October 30, while the Durban-London service launches on December 3, 2004. The Durban route will make Civair the only airline flying directly from Durban to London, since other carriers ceased flying direct to Durban in 1997. All Civair flights will land at London's Stansted airport, which is roughly 40-minutes by train from London's Liverpool Street station.
The web-centered airline offers one-way 'seat only' economy fares from R1999 to R3999, all year round. Minimum and maximum peak season fares will be reflected on the website and in all Civair's advertising, so as to ensure price credibility at all times. While the cheapest tickets are available online, for those not wishing to make use of the online service a Civair Call Centre is available on 0860 248 247.
Being a budget airline, the basic price of a ticket excludes luxuries such as meals, drinks and in-flight entertainment, although these are available as optional extras. If you value your creature comforts, the fully-inclusive business class fares range between R7999 and R9999. With business class fares for the London-Cape Town on other carriers in the region of R20 000, Civair could offer significant savings on business travel to the UK.
According to Andy Cluver, Civair's CEO, South Africa is currently seen as an expensive long-haul destination, in terms of flights, from the UK.
"Many of the 400 000 South African expats living in London simply cannot afford to return home as often as they would like. With the advent of Civair, such people will now be able to visit both Cape Town and Durban as affordable, short break destinations.
"Flying Civair will by and large be exactly the same as flying any other carrier. You will be offered everything that other airlines offer, and the legroom is the same, if not better.
"Healthy, not wealthy" flying
"There is one huge difference however, and that is that you don't have to pay for other passengers' special needs or indulgences. Entertainment services are an expensive luxury, and the heavy meals and alcoholic beverages offered by most airlines are, as we know, not ideal for healthy long haul travel. Many passengers today prefer lighter meals, herb teas and fruit juices. We aim to promote healthy, not wealthy, flying!"
Following the messy collapse of airlines like SunAir and MaidenAir, which left many passengers and travel agents out of pocket, Civair has arranged with the South African Air Services Council that all monies paid to the airline will be kept in a Passenger Protection Trust Account held by a firm of Cape Town-based auditors, and only released to Civair after the flight departs.
The airline will use a 446-seater Boeing 747.
Book online at www.civair.com or via the Civair call centre on 0860 248 247
FLIGHTS
Fly low-cost to London
Staff reporter
Posted Wed, 12 May 2004
Civair Airways, the new low-cost international airline which will begin flights from Cape Town and Durban direct to London later this year, has launched its website, www.civair.com, and is now open for bookings.
Civair's thrice-weekly Cape Town to London service will begin on October 30, while the Durban-London service launches on December 3, 2004. The Durban route will make Civair the only airline flying directly from Durban to London, since other carriers ceased flying direct to Durban in 1997. All Civair flights will land at London's Stansted airport, which is roughly 40-minutes by train from London's Liverpool Street station.
The web-centered airline offers one-way 'seat only' economy fares from R1999 to R3999, all year round. Minimum and maximum peak season fares will be reflected on the website and in all Civair's advertising, so as to ensure price credibility at all times. While the cheapest tickets are available online, for those not wishing to make use of the online service a Civair Call Centre is available on 0860 248 247.
Being a budget airline, the basic price of a ticket excludes luxuries such as meals, drinks and in-flight entertainment, although these are available as optional extras. If you value your creature comforts, the fully-inclusive business class fares range between R7999 and R9999. With business class fares for the London-Cape Town on other carriers in the region of R20 000, Civair could offer significant savings on business travel to the UK.
According to Andy Cluver, Civair's CEO, South Africa is currently seen as an expensive long-haul destination, in terms of flights, from the UK.
"Many of the 400 000 South African expats living in London simply cannot afford to return home as often as they would like. With the advent of Civair, such people will now be able to visit both Cape Town and Durban as affordable, short break destinations.
"Flying Civair will by and large be exactly the same as flying any other carrier. You will be offered everything that other airlines offer, and the legroom is the same, if not better.
"Healthy, not wealthy" flying
"There is one huge difference however, and that is that you don't have to pay for other passengers' special needs or indulgences. Entertainment services are an expensive luxury, and the heavy meals and alcoholic beverages offered by most airlines are, as we know, not ideal for healthy long haul travel. Many passengers today prefer lighter meals, herb teas and fruit juices. We aim to promote healthy, not wealthy, flying!"
Following the messy collapse of airlines like SunAir and MaidenAir, which left many passengers and travel agents out of pocket, Civair has arranged with the South African Air Services Council that all monies paid to the airline will be kept in a Passenger Protection Trust Account held by a firm of Cape Town-based auditors, and only released to Civair after the flight departs.
The airline will use a 446-seater Boeing 747.
Book online at www.civair.com or via the Civair call centre on 0860 248 247
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What a joke! Considering this man's "chequered" history, anyone with brains should realize that all is not well.
Its easy to sell tickets to gullable people, and promise them the world. Its also easy to say that the money will go into a trust account, only to be released once the flight departs.
Mmmm, its also easy to borrow money and cross collateralize funds should a "clean bill of health" be issued by an auditing firm.
So what's the plan here? To pull the public's money, put it in a trust account, raise funds to rent the airplane based on the funds in the trust account, and voila! You have an airline.
Its easy to sell tickets to gullable people, and promise them the world. Its also easy to say that the money will go into a trust account, only to be released once the flight departs.
Mmmm, its also easy to borrow money and cross collateralize funds should a "clean bill of health" be issued by an auditing firm.
So what's the plan here? To pull the public's money, put it in a trust account, raise funds to rent the airplane based on the funds in the trust account, and voila! You have an airline.
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Cape Town Waterfront business men.
After a year long rawl with van der merwe and his Huey, Elvis now has bought his own one????? Plane crazy HUH????
Now, CluVa from the wooden hut has put together an airline...(remember, he has got f
all but maybe a Nigerian partner and a pipe dream)
Wait till Hollywood hears about this lot......
After a year long rawl with van der merwe and his Huey, Elvis now has bought his own one????? Plane crazy HUH????
Now, CluVa from the wooden hut has put together an airline...(remember, he has got f
all but maybe a Nigerian partner and a pipe dream)Wait till Hollywood hears about this lot......
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Hey Guys,
Don't knock AC too much. At the moment, our industry is in a complete slum and there are lot of us who are unemployed. If AC is starting an airline and there are a dozen more piloting jobs available in SA - great! My CV's in .....
S.
Don't knock AC too much. At the moment, our industry is in a complete slum and there are lot of us who are unemployed. If AC is starting an airline and there are a dozen more piloting jobs available in SA - great! My CV's in .....
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Point taken Shandy!
AC is starting an airline with leased 747's, so he says. He's leasing those aircraft insured, maintained and crewed, so he says! So you know what's gonna happen to your CV? If its not already in file 13, it'll be there soon. Chat to a few people around Cape Town, including some cabin crew, and hear what they have to say.........about the promises.......salaries........mmmmmm. You be the judge!
AC is starting an airline with leased 747's, so he says. He's leasing those aircraft insured, maintained and crewed, so he says! So you know what's gonna happen to your CV? If its not already in file 13, it'll be there soon. Chat to a few people around Cape Town, including some cabin crew, and hear what they have to say.........about the promises.......salaries........mmmmmm. You be the judge!
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Clipboard,
Sorry, but I didn't know about the crews coming with the planes. I sent in my Cv and got a reply saying I'll be contacted in the near future for interview arrangements. Thanks, my bubble has been officially bursted!
What are all the other unemployed pilots in SA doing? I am seriously running out of ideas!
Sorry, but I didn't know about the crews coming with the planes. I sent in my Cv and got a reply saying I'll be contacted in the near future for interview arrangements. Thanks, my bubble has been officially bursted!
What are all the other unemployed pilots in SA doing? I am seriously running out of ideas!
Guys,
Civair has a website up and running and they are taking bookings (and I assume money) for the London/Cape Town/Durban route.
Some of my SA mates over here in London are considering booking and paying as they are being lured by the cheap fares on offer.
I have told them to wait and see where this goes before giving any credit card details.
What are your thoughts?
Civair has a website up and running and they are taking bookings (and I assume money) for the London/Cape Town/Durban route.
Some of my SA mates over here in London are considering booking and paying as they are being lured by the cheap fares on offer.
I have told them to wait and see where this goes before giving any credit card details.
What are your thoughts?
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Hi all,
I have just had a look at the Civair web site. I then got a little curious and tried to book a flight.
I chose my date and desternation (London), then my retutrn date. Only to have the site reply: NO FLIGHT ON THIS DAY! I then chose another day, again..NO FLIGHT ON THIS DAY!
By now i was thoroughly amused and kept working at it...and again...NO FLIGHT ON.......
I think that they are going to have a great big head pain trying to find enough people to build a flight......
Think i will stick to SAA....
I have just had a look at the Civair web site. I then got a little curious and tried to book a flight.
I chose my date and desternation (London), then my retutrn date. Only to have the site reply: NO FLIGHT ON THIS DAY! I then chose another day, again..NO FLIGHT ON THIS DAY!
By now i was thoroughly amused and kept working at it...and again...NO FLIGHT ON.......
I think that they are going to have a great big head pain trying to find enough people to build a flight......
Think i will stick to SAA....
Tsamaya sentle
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Apparently you CAN book 30 Oct STN-CPT and back on the 31st (at least the website took me to "Step 4" in the booking process).
Now this has written CAUTION all over it!
747 Durban-Stansted non-stop? Impossible!
Now this has written CAUTION all over it!
747 Durban-Stansted non-stop? Impossible!