ZIMbobWE seizes US cargo Plane and Mercenaries
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According to one news report the plane seems to have been involved in a sting operation as it stopped off in Harare to attempt to pick up a consignment of AK-47's, 30,000 rounds of ammunition and mortar shells that it had paid $180,000 for to Colonel X of Zimbabwe Defence Industries last week. An ex member of Executive Outcomes was also waiting for the plane in Harare.
Dodson Aviation claim to have sold the plane to Logo Logistics (registered in a UK dependency). There is apparently an 'investor agreement' between Logo Logisitics and the Lebanon based 'Asian Trade & Investment Group'.
The Equatorial Guinea opposition leader presently based in Spain (and main beneficiary of any coup attempt) is close friends with an Anglo-Lebanese businessman. In 2002 this same businessman was subject to a legal review in France of alleged illegal payments totalling $70million from a French oil company.
Equatorial New Guinea is the third largest oil producer in sub-Saharan Africa.
Interesting part of the world innit?
Dodson Aviation claim to have sold the plane to Logo Logistics (registered in a UK dependency). There is apparently an 'investor agreement' between Logo Logisitics and the Lebanon based 'Asian Trade & Investment Group'.
The Equatorial Guinea opposition leader presently based in Spain (and main beneficiary of any coup attempt) is close friends with an Anglo-Lebanese businessman. In 2002 this same businessman was subject to a legal review in France of alleged illegal payments totalling $70million from a French oil company.
Equatorial New Guinea is the third largest oil producer in sub-Saharan Africa.
Interesting part of the world innit?
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V1 writes:'The Rhodesian Special Branch accomplished that task about 25 years ago "
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If your refering to cutting off his balls, it would seem that was another costly mistake. Got to remove the head first.
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If your refering to cutting off his balls, it would seem that was another costly mistake. Got to remove the head first.
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Zimbabwe Defense Industries
If the aircraft had stopped to collect a consignment from Zimbabwe Defense Industries then surely the aircraft would have been allowed to depart unhindered. Zim Def Ind board includes a Doctor Whabira, apparently the Permanent Secretary of Defense in the Presidents Office (Mugabe) for Zimbabwe.
The company was looking at setting up an assembly plant for Russian military aircraft and tanks at Harare airport but the plan was apparently scuttled when the Russians baled.
The company was looking at setting up an assembly plant for Russian military aircraft and tanks at Harare airport but the plan was apparently scuttled when the Russians baled.
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Mom not worried about pilot son
From News24:
Mom not worried about pilot son
Bloemfontein - "My son was only the pilot and not part of the 'plot'," said Rina Steyl from Heliconhoogte in Bloemfontein.
Her son, Niel, is being held in Zimbabwe after the Boeing 727 that he was piloting, was seized in Zimbabwe.
She said she was not worried about him because he "just did an innocent thing".
When asked if he had taken part in the planning, she said she didn't think he knew how to plan. He only flew the plane - and probably because he was such a wellknown and good pilot.
He was in South Africa on holiday when he was approached to fly the aircraft. Steyl did not know by whom he was approached as she had no information on the flight.
"No one wants to tell me, but it's certainly for good money," she said with a laugh.
She did not know he went ahead with the flight because she could not keep up with her sons' movements. Three of her four sons are Boeing pilots. She thinks her husband, Johan, might know more details.
Flies for flamboyant Indian tycoon
Niel and another son once worked as pilots for the infamous Executive Outcomes company, but she didn't think he was flying for them this time. Surely, they no longer exist, she asked.
Niel, whom they call Jaap-Niel, matriculated from Harrismith High School, were his father was principal.
His former wife, Petro, and their two daughters still live in Harrismith.
He is now the captain of the Boeing for flamboyant Indian tycoon Dr Vijay Mallya and is stationed in Bangalore.
Mallya is in San Francisco and expects Niel on Sunday.
Niel was on his way to his parents in Bloemfontein when he was asked to fly the plane. But, he first spent time in his Kosmos house in Gauteng.
The phone in the Steyl's house rings continuously - the calls are from friends from around the country who read about Niel's arrest. Everyone is surprised as they all assumed he was in India.
'No weapons on the plane'
"Aunty, I see Jaap-Niel is in trouble," says the umpteenth concerned former classmate on the phone.
Each time, Steyl explains her son was here on holiday and that they are sure he will be held only for seven days, as the newspapers report. This is because there were no weapons on the plane.
"I am not worried - I know my four sons too well," she says.
But, she is worried about the Zimbabweans. Her husband wonders if President Robert Mugabe isn't using "this thing for political gain" to say it proves America has something against him.
Mom not worried about pilot son
Bloemfontein - "My son was only the pilot and not part of the 'plot'," said Rina Steyl from Heliconhoogte in Bloemfontein.
Her son, Niel, is being held in Zimbabwe after the Boeing 727 that he was piloting, was seized in Zimbabwe.
She said she was not worried about him because he "just did an innocent thing".
When asked if he had taken part in the planning, she said she didn't think he knew how to plan. He only flew the plane - and probably because he was such a wellknown and good pilot.
He was in South Africa on holiday when he was approached to fly the aircraft. Steyl did not know by whom he was approached as she had no information on the flight.
"No one wants to tell me, but it's certainly for good money," she said with a laugh.
She did not know he went ahead with the flight because she could not keep up with her sons' movements. Three of her four sons are Boeing pilots. She thinks her husband, Johan, might know more details.
Flies for flamboyant Indian tycoon
Niel and another son once worked as pilots for the infamous Executive Outcomes company, but she didn't think he was flying for them this time. Surely, they no longer exist, she asked.
Niel, whom they call Jaap-Niel, matriculated from Harrismith High School, were his father was principal.
His former wife, Petro, and their two daughters still live in Harrismith.
He is now the captain of the Boeing for flamboyant Indian tycoon Dr Vijay Mallya and is stationed in Bangalore.
Mallya is in San Francisco and expects Niel on Sunday.
Niel was on his way to his parents in Bloemfontein when he was asked to fly the plane. But, he first spent time in his Kosmos house in Gauteng.
The phone in the Steyl's house rings continuously - the calls are from friends from around the country who read about Niel's arrest. Everyone is surprised as they all assumed he was in India.
'No weapons on the plane'
"Aunty, I see Jaap-Niel is in trouble," says the umpteenth concerned former classmate on the phone.
Each time, Steyl explains her son was here on holiday and that they are sure he will be held only for seven days, as the newspapers report. This is because there were no weapons on the plane.
"I am not worried - I know my four sons too well," she says.
But, she is worried about the Zimbabweans. Her husband wonders if President Robert Mugabe isn't using "this thing for political gain" to say it proves America has something against him.
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Trivia...
Mugarbage had the wedding tackle lopped off after letting a particularly nasty case of Zambezi Crotch Rot (syphilis which incidentally has the side effect of driving the victim cuckoo) go untreated. This became cancerous and the only way to save his life was to hack 'em off. The op was apparently carried out by a missionary doctor (causing trouble in Africa again).
Anyone notice the Zimboon military type holding up the vicious offensive bolt cutters, et al, with a set of new binos draped around his neck? Looks like a little affirmative shopping was being carried out during the search. Still waiting to see the actual military gear they claim to have found on board........
Anyone notice the Zimboon military type holding up the vicious offensive bolt cutters, et al, with a set of new binos draped around his neck? Looks like a little affirmative shopping was being carried out during the search. Still waiting to see the actual military gear they claim to have found on board........
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Do you think the bolt cutters were detected in the Polokwane International Airport security x-ray machine before boarding?
Thay may have passed as harmless toe nail clippers!!!
Thay may have passed as harmless toe nail clippers!!!
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I cant help but think that this whole sorry story will only play into Mugabe's hands. I don't think Zim give to hoots what goes on in Equitorial Guinea but it's just a great opportunity for Mugabe to show he can wield some power. Interesting to hear the death penalty has been mentioned already.
[QUOTE]'Mercenaries' face Zimbabwe court
Military equipment was reportedly found on the impounded plane
A group of men said to be mercenaries planning a coup in the African state of Equatorial Guinea are expected to face charges in a court in Zimbabwe - although it is unclear if this will be on Thursday.
Zimbabwe has threatened the 64 suspects with the death penalty since seizing them at Harare airport on Sunday.
In Equatorial Guinea, a man said to be related to the group has publicly confessed to a coup plot on television.
Other reports say the suspects were security guards bound for other states who had stopped for mining supplies.
It wasn't a question of taking the life of the head of state but of spiriting him away
Nick du Toit
alleged mercenary leader
Equatorial Guinea: Ripe for coup
The company which chartered their plane said they had stopped in Harare en route to Burundi and DR Congo where they were due to provide security services for an internationally run mine.
But Zimbabwe and South Africa both support the government of Equatorial Guinea and say the men were part of a plot to overthrow the president, Teodoro Obiang Nguema.
Harare has accused the men of working for US, British and Spanish intelligence agencies.
"[They] are going to face the severest punishment available in our statutes, including capital punishment," said Foreign Minister Stan Mudenge without detailing the charges against them.
The BBC's Alastair Leithead in South Africa describes the British and American links as spurious but adds there is growing evidence that the mystery does relate to a coup attempt gone wrong.
History of coups
The 64 men - said to be Angolans, South Africans and Namibians - were detained after their plane was impounded on Sunday evening at Harare International Airport.
Equatorial Guinea and its president have a long history of coups
Equatorial Guinea arrested a separate group of 15 suspected mercenaries, said to be involved in the same alleged plot.
The oil-rich state's president said South Africa had warned him that a group of mercenaries was heading for his country and he suggested that they had had foreign backing of hostile foreign powers and multinational firms.
A man said to be the leader of the "mercenaries" has appeared on Equatorial Guinea state television to say that they had been part of a plot to remove Mr Obiang and put an exiled opposition leader in power.
"It wasn't a question of taking the life of the head of state but of spiriting him away, taking him to Spain and forcing him into exile and then of immediately installing the government-in-exile of Severo Moto Nsa," said the alleged coup leader, introduced as Nick du Toit, according to a transcript released by AFP news agency.
In Spain, Mr Moto, who led a failed coup bid in Equatorial Guinea in 1997, denied any role in the alleged plot but also launched a blistering attack on President Obiang, who himself took power in a coup in 1979.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3500132.stm
[QUOTE]'Mercenaries' face Zimbabwe court
Military equipment was reportedly found on the impounded plane
A group of men said to be mercenaries planning a coup in the African state of Equatorial Guinea are expected to face charges in a court in Zimbabwe - although it is unclear if this will be on Thursday.
Zimbabwe has threatened the 64 suspects with the death penalty since seizing them at Harare airport on Sunday.
In Equatorial Guinea, a man said to be related to the group has publicly confessed to a coup plot on television.
Other reports say the suspects were security guards bound for other states who had stopped for mining supplies.
It wasn't a question of taking the life of the head of state but of spiriting him away
Nick du Toit
alleged mercenary leader
Equatorial Guinea: Ripe for coup
The company which chartered their plane said they had stopped in Harare en route to Burundi and DR Congo where they were due to provide security services for an internationally run mine.
But Zimbabwe and South Africa both support the government of Equatorial Guinea and say the men were part of a plot to overthrow the president, Teodoro Obiang Nguema.
Harare has accused the men of working for US, British and Spanish intelligence agencies.
"[They] are going to face the severest punishment available in our statutes, including capital punishment," said Foreign Minister Stan Mudenge without detailing the charges against them.
The BBC's Alastair Leithead in South Africa describes the British and American links as spurious but adds there is growing evidence that the mystery does relate to a coup attempt gone wrong.
History of coups
The 64 men - said to be Angolans, South Africans and Namibians - were detained after their plane was impounded on Sunday evening at Harare International Airport.
Equatorial Guinea and its president have a long history of coups
Equatorial Guinea arrested a separate group of 15 suspected mercenaries, said to be involved in the same alleged plot.
The oil-rich state's president said South Africa had warned him that a group of mercenaries was heading for his country and he suggested that they had had foreign backing of hostile foreign powers and multinational firms.
A man said to be the leader of the "mercenaries" has appeared on Equatorial Guinea state television to say that they had been part of a plot to remove Mr Obiang and put an exiled opposition leader in power.
"It wasn't a question of taking the life of the head of state but of spiriting him away, taking him to Spain and forcing him into exile and then of immediately installing the government-in-exile of Severo Moto Nsa," said the alleged coup leader, introduced as Nick du Toit, according to a transcript released by AFP news agency.
In Spain, Mr Moto, who led a failed coup bid in Equatorial Guinea in 1997, denied any role in the alleged plot but also launched a blistering attack on President Obiang, who himself took power in a coup in 1979.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3500132.stm
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Just to jump in one more time.............
And Guns I wasnt harping at you about things. Im sure you wouldnt give up a brother...
But the sad part of this whole thing is that Zim can blow this thing way out of line and these poor guys are going to sit in Sh1t until the press no longer carries the story.
I would like to mention a couple other things, but Im sure everyone who thinks he is an Intelligence Type has numerous copies of this thread already. Including those guys in Pretoria with all the antennas on the roof.
Heres hoping that those who were paying the big bucks, dig deep to get those guys back to Castle Country.
And Guns I wasnt harping at you about things. Im sure you wouldnt give up a brother...
But the sad part of this whole thing is that Zim can blow this thing way out of line and these poor guys are going to sit in Sh1t until the press no longer carries the story.
I would like to mention a couple other things, but Im sure everyone who thinks he is an Intelligence Type has numerous copies of this thread already. Including those guys in Pretoria with all the antennas on the roof.
Heres hoping that those who were paying the big bucks, dig deep to get those guys back to Castle Country.
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A Letter from Cathy Buckle, in Zimbabwe - read it all...
Dear Family and Friends,
Events in Zimbabwe this week have left us all open mouthed and shaking our
heads in disbelief, surprise and shock. Every day and every hour the talk
has been of mercenaries, conspiracies, terrorists and coup plots. No one
seems to be able to explain why an aeroplane landed in Harare with people,
described by local television as "burly, heavily built men" of assorted
nationalities. At first the talk was of 64 mercenaries, later in the week
it became 67. Reports as to what these men were doing here varied from
collecting mining equipment to guard mines in the DRC, to buying guns and
planning to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea. None of the
facts were clear and nothing became clearer as the week wore on.
On one day the Zimbabwe government talked of the UK, US and Spain being
involved in a plot to overthrow an African government, and on another day
the Minister of Foreign Affairs talked of capital punishment for the 67
men. Night after night our television screens have shown the same footage
again and again of the cargo on board the aeroplane. There were radios and
cellphones, loud hailers and bolt cutters, one very large sledge hammer
and one very small pepper spray, sleeping bags, trousers, white shirts and
something which the newsreader called a bright orange dinge. This turned
out to be an inflatable dinghy and when it was all put together, it made
for a most peculiar cargo for men who at first were called mercenaries and
terrorists by the State media but these terms were soon preceeded by the
words alleged and suspected.
On Friday, speaking to BBC radio, the lawyer appointed to represent the 67
men said that he had still not spoken to most of his sixty odd clients
because the police had not been given clearance by "higher authorities" to
allow interviews to be conducted. Also on Friday, on the front page of
what is now Zimbabwe's only daily newspaper, the State owned Herald, the
plot thickened. The Herald reported that an 8 man team had arrived in the
country from Equatorial Guinea to "exchange notes" about the 67 men. The
Herald chose a strange assortment of words to explain the total confusion
and said that the police and Attorney General's office were "continuing
with investigations and the framing of charges." By the end of the week,
when Spain was reeling after the horrific bombs in trains in Madrid, our
propaganda mill had turned the mercenary story and the weird cargo around.
The crawl line on the bottom of the TV screen read: "Zimbabwe is against
terrorism," and still we watched film footage of bolt cutters, one pepper
spray and a sledge hammer.
While the conspiracy theories abounded and Zimbabwe was featured on most
international news channels it was a tragedy that the story that really
should have been making world news was lost. A report was issued by The
Zimbabwe Institute in Cape Town which revealed utterly horrific facts and
figures about opposition politicians in Zimbabwe. 50 opposition MP's and
28 parliamentary candidates were interviewed and between them 616
incidents were documented. More than 90% of the MP's had experienced jail,
violence and threats; 25% had survived murder attempts; 42% reported
having been physically assaulted and 16% reported that they had been
tortured whilst in police custody - with electric shocks to the genitals
and beatings on the soles of their feet. The Zimbabwe Institute report
stated that of the 616 incidents, half had been blamed on police, army and
the CIO and the other half on men calling themselves war veterans and
members of Zimbabwe's youth militia. Most shocking of all was the
statement that not one single perpetrator had been arrested, charged or
tried for any of the 616 incidents.
So, while the mercenary plot thickens, life on the ground for Zimbabwe's
opposition politicians continues to be a time of personal terror. Until
next week, with love, cathy. Copyright cathy buckle 13th March 2003.
http://africantears.netfirms.com
Events in Zimbabwe this week have left us all open mouthed and shaking our
heads in disbelief, surprise and shock. Every day and every hour the talk
has been of mercenaries, conspiracies, terrorists and coup plots. No one
seems to be able to explain why an aeroplane landed in Harare with people,
described by local television as "burly, heavily built men" of assorted
nationalities. At first the talk was of 64 mercenaries, later in the week
it became 67. Reports as to what these men were doing here varied from
collecting mining equipment to guard mines in the DRC, to buying guns and
planning to overthrow the government of Equatorial Guinea. None of the
facts were clear and nothing became clearer as the week wore on.
On one day the Zimbabwe government talked of the UK, US and Spain being
involved in a plot to overthrow an African government, and on another day
the Minister of Foreign Affairs talked of capital punishment for the 67
men. Night after night our television screens have shown the same footage
again and again of the cargo on board the aeroplane. There were radios and
cellphones, loud hailers and bolt cutters, one very large sledge hammer
and one very small pepper spray, sleeping bags, trousers, white shirts and
something which the newsreader called a bright orange dinge. This turned
out to be an inflatable dinghy and when it was all put together, it made
for a most peculiar cargo for men who at first were called mercenaries and
terrorists by the State media but these terms were soon preceeded by the
words alleged and suspected.
On Friday, speaking to BBC radio, the lawyer appointed to represent the 67
men said that he had still not spoken to most of his sixty odd clients
because the police had not been given clearance by "higher authorities" to
allow interviews to be conducted. Also on Friday, on the front page of
what is now Zimbabwe's only daily newspaper, the State owned Herald, the
plot thickened. The Herald reported that an 8 man team had arrived in the
country from Equatorial Guinea to "exchange notes" about the 67 men. The
Herald chose a strange assortment of words to explain the total confusion
and said that the police and Attorney General's office were "continuing
with investigations and the framing of charges." By the end of the week,
when Spain was reeling after the horrific bombs in trains in Madrid, our
propaganda mill had turned the mercenary story and the weird cargo around.
The crawl line on the bottom of the TV screen read: "Zimbabwe is against
terrorism," and still we watched film footage of bolt cutters, one pepper
spray and a sledge hammer.
While the conspiracy theories abounded and Zimbabwe was featured on most
international news channels it was a tragedy that the story that really
should have been making world news was lost. A report was issued by The
Zimbabwe Institute in Cape Town which revealed utterly horrific facts and
figures about opposition politicians in Zimbabwe. 50 opposition MP's and
28 parliamentary candidates were interviewed and between them 616
incidents were documented. More than 90% of the MP's had experienced jail,
violence and threats; 25% had survived murder attempts; 42% reported
having been physically assaulted and 16% reported that they had been
tortured whilst in police custody - with electric shocks to the genitals
and beatings on the soles of their feet. The Zimbabwe Institute report
stated that of the 616 incidents, half had been blamed on police, army and
the CIO and the other half on men calling themselves war veterans and
members of Zimbabwe's youth militia. Most shocking of all was the
statement that not one single perpetrator had been arrested, charged or
tried for any of the 616 incidents.
So, while the mercenary plot thickens, life on the ground for Zimbabwe's
opposition politicians continues to be a time of personal terror. Until
next week, with love, cathy. Copyright cathy buckle 13th March 2003.
http://africantears.netfirms.com
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There was a very interesting program on BBC World investigating so called "Training Caps" were the Zim Governament is creating new human monsters brainwashing thousands of young people and teaching to them how to torture, kill, rape etc. We cannot expect justice or truth from that kind of people.
Maybe if the worldwide media interest will rise on the subject there will be a better chance for those people to walk away from there, sooner or later.
Maybe if the worldwide media interest will rise on the subject there will be a better chance for those people to walk away from there, sooner or later.
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In the right wing UK press, SM has already been convicted. With his known previous connections and activities in the public domain, the temptation to jump the gun is all too easy. Also, anyone with "Old Etonian" after their moniker is always going to get press interest in the UK.
Further, the Sunday Times and Her Majesty's Daily Mail have mentioned that SM is a SA Citizen. Below is a comment I made on the rumour network concerning this:
I'm a British Citizen with a Sith Ifican wife. Therefore, I hold a Brit passport and have Permanent Residence in SA. For a Brit to live in SA, this is the only way. Technically, it IS possible to take SA Citizenship but only on pain of renouncing British citizenship - and I've never heard of or met anyone who has done that. (In fact, the reason Zimbos are having trouble returning to the UK after years in Zim is because they were effectively forced to renounce the UK ticket and take up Zim citizenship if they wished to stay in Zim.) Ergo, SM will be a Brit and entitled to the "help" afforded to him by the Foreign Orifice. Make of this - and the behaviour of Our Man in Cape Town - what you will.
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Yours Aye,
PSP
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Further, the Sunday Times and Her Majesty's Daily Mail have mentioned that SM is a SA Citizen. Below is a comment I made on the rumour network concerning this:
I'm a British Citizen with a Sith Ifican wife. Therefore, I hold a Brit passport and have Permanent Residence in SA. For a Brit to live in SA, this is the only way. Technically, it IS possible to take SA Citizenship but only on pain of renouncing British citizenship - and I've never heard of or met anyone who has done that. (In fact, the reason Zimbos are having trouble returning to the UK after years in Zim is because they were effectively forced to renounce the UK ticket and take up Zim citizenship if they wished to stay in Zim.) Ergo, SM will be a Brit and entitled to the "help" afforded to him by the Foreign Orifice. Make of this - and the behaviour of Our Man in Cape Town - what you will.
PSP
London
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If I'm wrong - tell me - because I get lots of queries from friends and rellies about emmigration. I therefore stand up only to be corrected!
Yours Aye,
PSP
London
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Why, why, why did these guys land in Mugo land in the first place
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They bought a legal shipment of arms and went to fetch it on their way ....
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Guns Writes:"They bought a legal shipment of arms and went to fetch it on their way .... "
......Said the Spider to the Fly............
Bobbie is smiling so much that the night is light from the reflection on his Ivorys.......As I said untill its no longer newsworthy those guys are in Deep Doo Doo. My thoughts are with them.
Heres hoping someone has the Duckets to appease Papa Bobbie. If they are harmed I have a Randall for the one who gives him the final shave.....
......Said the Spider to the Fly............
Bobbie is smiling so much that the night is light from the reflection on his Ivorys.......As I said untill its no longer newsworthy those guys are in Deep Doo Doo. My thoughts are with them.
Heres hoping someone has the Duckets to appease Papa Bobbie. If they are harmed I have a Randall for the one who gives him the final shave.....
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LEGAL SHIPMENT OF ARMS
I guess with cash upfront and no goods to show for it (USD 186k was the figure I understand), a plane full of "security experts" with 39 Batalion histories etc. were a God send to wriggle out of a deal and score some free "much needed foreign currency". Zimbabwe Defense Industries is no stranger to scandal and dubious activities, (including dark practicesin the Harare Airport construction tender). They sniff around up in Kenya from time to time, but their latest partnership involves the very secretive AVIENT air cargo and a bunch of Rusky equipment to replace AIR ZIM's ageing Boeing 737's. Heard that AIR ZIM are sending delegates to LUFTHANSA for a new look interior - I wonder if they have any STC's for YAKS ?????.
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South African foreign affairs officials have been unable to confirm or deny a newspaper report stating that alleged mercenary Nick du Toit has been "tortured to death" in Equatorial Guinea
According to a spanish newspaper! Africa showing its value for human life!
Edited to add following:
du Toit is ok it seems, but a german soldier died. It is said due to malaria!! I wonder....
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Guns,
If that is the case where is all the paperwork? Surely there must be wads of the stuff?
This is now featuring in the US media, CNN, Fox, CBS etc. Someone should provide them the docs to show that Mugabes is a fraud and help get these guys on their way.
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If that is the case where is all the paperwork? Surely there must be wads of the stuff?
This is now featuring in the US media, CNN, Fox, CBS etc. Someone should provide them the docs to show that Mugabes is a fraud and help get these guys on their way.
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