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Nepal Plane Crash

Old 15th Jan 2023, 11:28
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Some sharpening and tweaks applied.
Thanks, I did try sharpening in Photoshop before posting, but decided the results weren't worth it.
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Originally Posted by aeromech3 View Post
Was it just chance it missed the habited areas, both sides of the gorge, after that steep turn!
I'd expect so if it was a stall as the footage seems to suggest.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:21
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Canít see flaps


To me stall seems due excessive aoa. Perhaps incorrect approach config?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:29
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Unconfirmed Twitter reports from Indian media:
Pilot, male had been a captain for 25 yearsCopilot, female for 1 year.
Aircraft approach was in the opposite direction to what was instructed by atc.
Wasn't that similar to US-Bangla Q400 crash i Kathmandu? Experienced captain, young female FO, lining up for opposite runway to what ATC belived?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:30
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KATHMANDU, Jan 15 (Reuters) - At least 68 people were killed on Sunday when a domestic flight crashed in Pokhara in Nepal, the country's Civil Aviation Authority said, in the worst air crash in three decades in the small Himalayan nation.

Hundreds of rescue workers were scouring the hillside where the Yeti Airlines flight, carrying 72 people from the capital Kathmandu, went down.

Local TV showed rescue workers scrambling around broken sections of the aircraft. Some of the ground near the crash site was scorched, with licks of flames visible.

The plane made contact with the airport from Seti Gorge at 10:50 a.m. (0505 GMT), the aviation authority said in its statement. "Then it crashed."

Police official Ajay K.C. said rescue workers were having difficulty reaching the site in a gorge between two hills near the tourist town's airport.


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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:35
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Originally Posted by mickjoebill View Post
The airport opened on Jan 1st 2023.

Unconfirmed Twitter reports from Indian media:
Pilot, male had been a captain for 25 yearsCopilot, female for 1 year.
Aircraft approach was in the opposite direction to what was instructed by atc.

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Can't help wonder if the reason they may have been on the opposite approach to VNPR as instructed is they were initially approaching the old airport PKR.

As VNPR
has only been open for 15 days it's conceivable they may mistakenly followed habit and approached the old airport, realised the mistake at quite a low altitude, tried to adjust course to VNPR in challenging circumstances but sadly failed to do so.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 12:47
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Just visually, it reminds me of TransAsia Flight 235, Taipei in 2015, where they shut down the wrong engine.
TransAsia Airways Flight 235 - Wikipedia
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 13:05
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Its pretty clear on the video.
Aircraft can be seen to be lifting the nose.
It stalls.
Followed by a classic wing drop.
Followed by crash.

Why, is another question completely, so stop guessing. !!
RIP Pilots, crew, and passengers.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 13:12
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Possible attempt to salvage a mistaken final approach to the old airport into left base for the new one?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:14
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Originally Posted by chazontour View Post
Can't help wonder if the reason they may have been on the opposite approach to VNPR as instructed is they were initially approaching the old airport PKR.

As VNPR
has only been open for 15 days it's conceivable they may mistakenly followed habit and approached the old airport, realised the mistake at quite a low altitude, tried to adjust course to VNPR in challenging circumstances but sadly failed to do so.
"I've been flying 25 years I know what I'm doing" captain, inexperienced co-pilot couldn't overcome the cockpit gradient to point out that's a really bad idea. Maybe!
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:19
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:28
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Originally Posted by 172_driver View Post
Wasn't that similar to US-Bangla Q400 crash i Kathmandu? Experienced captain, young female FO, lining up for opposite runway to what ATC belived?
But how does that connect to this crash? Whatever the runway, this event should not have happened.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:42
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Originally Posted by 172_driver View Post
Wasn't that similar to US-Bangla Q400 crash i Kathmandu? Experienced captain, young female FO, lining up for opposite runway to what ATC belived?
Or possibly someone in India googling " accident Nepal " and posting the old inlo, as a new one mixing the two , Wait until we have confirmed info . For me uncorfirmed info coming from India goes into the bin ...

@ safetypee and michaelbinary : +1
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:59
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Another one

This looks almost identical to the TransAsia ATR72 crash
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 14:59
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I tired some AI tools to sharpen the image; also there is a link below to youtube I tired some AI again on the video.





Youtube video:
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 15:07
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Pilot Lining for the wrong airport is outrageous . This was the plane's 3rd flight on the route in 3 hours .

Pilot is very experienced . He was instructor as well . He was looking for early retirement at 60 years . Limit is 65 .

Co-Pilot is widow of a pilot who died 15 years ago . She pursued aviation to move on her husband's step . . She had about 100 hours . It was her literal last flight as a copilot to cross the 100 hour mark.

Edit : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-64299882
A trailblazer, Anju was one of just six women employed by the airline as pilots, and had flown close to 6,400 hours.

"She was a full captain at the airline who had done solo flights," Sudarshan Bartaula from Yeti Airlines said. "She was a brave woman."
100 hours could be on the Type . Or Wrong reporting altogether as bbc does not report on this .

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Old 15th Jan 2023, 15:46
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Exclamation

Disclaimer : Now Confirmed from various sources of being Real Live Stream From inside. Video Continues After the Impact as well .



Is this for Real , the footage from Inside . 30 seconds in .The Location seem correct , it shows the Stadium . . No panic in the aircraft before the sudden roll as seen in other video . Timing of this .

https://www.onlinekhabar.com/wp-cont...e-1024x625.jpg

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Old 15th Jan 2023, 15:50
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Originally Posted by Yo_You_Not_You_you View Post
https://twitter.com/ShaunakCy/status...40856937660417

Is this for Real , the footage from Inside . 30 seconds in .The Location seem correct , it shows the Stadium . . No panic in the aircraft before the sudden roll as seen in other video . Timing of this .

https://www.onlinekhabar.com/wp-cont...e-1024x625.jpg
could it really be as simple as a too slow and too tight circle to land on a bright sunny day?
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 15:50
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Such a shame, RIP. As other posters have said, both engines seem to be turning, high AoA, wing looks clean, can't see the rudder but looks like a classic skid stall to me.
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Old 15th Jan 2023, 16:10
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Originally Posted by Yo_You_Not_You_you View Post
Pilot Lining for the wrong airport is outrageous . This was the plane's 3rd flight on the route in 3 hours .

Pilot is very experienced . He was instructor as well . He was looking for early retirement at 60 years . Limit is 65 .

Co-Pilot is widow of a pilot who died 15 years ago . She pursued aviation to move on her husband's step . . She had about 100 hours . It was her literal last flight as a copilot to cross the 100 hour mark.
I don't think we can disclose that the wrong airport was chosen.

At this stage we cannot disclose anything.

RIP all souls lost...
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