I'm 75, I got my first FAA license in 1966 (1720853, I can still remember the number without peeking), I've owned and driven racecars and as an automotive journalist tested every Ferrari, Lamborghini, Porsche, Maserati, AMG Mercedes and you-name-it that's out there. I go to the gym five days a week and plan to live to 100, strongly based on my mother's longevity genes.
But when it's time to drive somewhere in our Porsche, I let my wife do it. She's 15 years younger. Oh, and I don't fly any more either. Quit doing that about 10 years ago, when I sold the Falco I'd built.
Anybody who won't admit they're losing a step, and then another step, as they age is fooling themselves.
If only there were more like you. Ironically, you're probably on of the few that could REALLY make a great contribution in a training role in a procedural, ops spec or simulator capacity, but we don't need you flying to minimas with 400 souls on board.
Spare us all!!
Last edited by Kangaroo Court; 23rd Oct 2011 at 03:56.
Kangaroo Court , I was directly under Galloping Ghost when it rolled inverted in the stands and a 21 year old could not have remained conscious during that 10G+ pull up. His age had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome. It crashed 300 ft from us but initially was coming directly at us in the seats. He was 74 but seemed to be doing a great job of flying until the elevator trim tab went away. My friend, Steven Hinton was in #7 Strega leading the race when it happened. He won the Gold unlimited two years ago at age 21, last year he won because the wind cancelled the Gold race and this year the crash cancelled the rest of the air race. Voodoo, who was right behind Strega had the same trim tab fail about 12 years ago and a much younger pilot blacked out and thankfully spiraled up 9,000 ft until the speed dropped off and recovered by removing power. We shouldn't be so quick to blame age on accidents.
The first one was to increase to 65. The second is to increase age to 70.
The problem is people don`t save money when they are younger , have a lot of ex wives to support and when the time to retire comes , they have no money to do it without losing quality of life.
They are kind of slaves and they want us to do all slaves because of their inconsequent life.
Others to whom this profile does not apply are those who have a very sad personal life , are nothing at home and prefer to keep working , as this is the only chance they have to someone pay attention to them.
Pilots believe themselves smart , but most of them have no idea how foolish they are. Everybody wants to retire as earlier as possible. Pilots are the only one stupid class who is finding a way to do it later.
Don't even get me started on that P-51 crash in Reno!!
And that statement, combined with the fruit-loop nonsense you came out with earlier in the same post leaves me in no doubt that it is you, Kangaroo Court, who should be grounded ASP.
A3Twenty - you have chosen to join in this thread without bothering to read the previous posts, this renders your post quite pointless.
Love to give you guys the reins. Only problem is five Robber Barrons have stolen my retirement funds with the promise of "better days ahead" After 34 years, Many of us "Retreads" are still sitting in the right seat listening to much smarter people in the left seat with 25 years experience. If you can get me the retirement that was on the books when I signed up with this carrier, I'll leave tomorrow. BTW, please e mail me when you turn 60 and after you've seen "Logan's Run"
A3Twenty - you have chosen to join in this thread without bothering to read the previous posts, this renders your post quite pointless. Quote: Such a stupid people !!! Indeed!.
Some of you you lost yourselves in paraalell discussions. I`m just giving my opinion about the thread`s title.
I can assure you that three certifying nations, the history of teaching wide body and eight type-ratings assures that I am quite safe to fly. I am also smart enough to invest my savings wisely while enjoying this long and successful career.
It helps to live your life responsibly, not drink it away, not sleep it away with as many hotties as you think you can handle and not blame others for your decisions.
This cradle to grave attitude is the first part of the problem, not preparing for the vagaries of the economy is the next.
It helps to live your life responsibly, not drink it away, not sleep it away with as many hotties as you think you can handle and not blame others for your decisions.
And still you petulantly refuse to acknowledge the fact that many, many pilots find themselves in financial hardship through no fault of their own, but then, there are none so blind as those that won't see.
As I said before, you have been lucky to be in the right place at the right time and are quite obviously very pleased with yourself, bully for you, you certainly come across as too engrossed with your own career to properly understand the realities of the big wide world of aviation.
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Don't even get me started on that P-51 crash in Reno!!
KC, after a while your repetition gets really boring. Quit when you want, let everybody else quit when they want. Some people need to retire earlier than others. Age is only part of the aging process.
If the argument has become boring and repetitious, then stop participating in the thread. This is an issue that won't go away, and when a crew pairing of geriatrics crash through somebody's living room wall taking out innocent people on the ground, all of the politicians will run away from your cause and all of the attorneys will run towards the family's survivors.
Your reputations, posthumously, will be dragged through international media circles for the selfish fools you are!
This is a profession of physical fitness, reflex and sound mind. Not just to be demonstrated in a doctor's office for an hour during banker's hours, but in the early morning after transiting time zones and eating out of a plastic box, followed by the failure of some "fail" safe electronic bunch of crap avionics package and a hand flown approach to minimums.
We have PLENTY of evidence to suggest that 63 is very much near the top end of existence for a pilot in POST retirement. We do not need anymore risk associated with a profession that is seen as borderline irresponsible in its governance already.
"Quit when you want."
Is that medical advice you'd offer an alcoholic?
It's those of us that can observe the problem have the greatest duty of all to do something about it.
Last edited by Kangaroo Court; 25th Oct 2011 at 00:13.
It's bad enough dealing with these people on the roads. How many more incapacitations do we need for you to get the message?
Kangaroo Court, (what an apt ID), you obviously enjoy trolling whilst offering up no facts whatsoever to support you hypotheses, you would help yourself if you actually studied the verifiable statistics regarding pilot incapacitation. I will leave you to wallow in your blissful but woeful ignorance.
when a crew pairing of geriatrics crash through somebody's living room wall taking out innocent people on the ground, all of the politicians will run away from your cause and all of the attorneys will run towards the family's survivors.
Come on K C, Surely you are aware that two pilots over 60 cannot be crewed together so this is not even possible!
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