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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:43   #2401 (permalink)
 
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Visual circuit is what you brief them FULL STOP. It's a manual/manual detail so just fly the a/c as a big old Piper Warrior. You all have over 2500 hours on heavy jets............

I took off and turned right 180 degrees starting at 500 feet because that is what I breifed them before take off.

I flew downwind (touch of drift) at 1500 feet, flaps 2, 180 knots because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Abeam upwind end of runway, stopwatch 45 secs, flaps 5 because that is what I briefed them before take off.

After 45 seconds, shallow descending turn 180 degrees, speed 160, Landing Gear and flaps 15, flaps 25 because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Roll out on finals 2/2 whites/reds, flaps full, expecting to be stable at 500 feet (if not we will Go-Around) because that is what I briefed them before take off.

After landing, autobrake low and remain on the runway because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Dont pick holes in my circuit because (a) I passed the 4 days (b) I don't remember the exact figures and (c) you will fly slightly differently from me.

So......

FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.
FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.
FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.

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Old 10th Nov 2010, 17:18   #2402 (permalink)
 
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They're doing your 777 or 330 initial training and this is the only reason why they act so pricey. If you were current on type you'd have nothing to worry about. Some type-current guys who jumped ship to be here could never survive the EK selection process. They got hired because the GCAA validates them in 24 Hours; they can fly the line almost immediately and get a token checkout for the purpose of issuing a GCAA ATPL. The regime loves zero liability economic refugees. They know it's way harder to hire their own people. This company has acquired a taste for foreign pilots. Local aviation industry is non-existant. The kind of experienced crew they demand is impossible to get. This airline's sole purpose is to exploit foreign routes, and crew resources, disrupt and interfere with foreign operations. So-called government playing with free oil-money.


Use the Emirates selection process as interview experience. If you meet all their criteria to get this far, you will do really well in a real airline in a country with genuine people. This is a guilded refugee camp y'all !
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 17:49   #2403 (permalink)
 
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I agree - from what I've heard the psychometric testing is a very important part of the interview. I got washed out on the first day - so I can't personally comment so much on the rest of the testing. But I am sure the compass testing does count for a decent part of the interview too as I feel it's why I didn't get through - unless there was something that I did very wrong in the sim which I'm oblivious of.

That being said, the guys who did their sim in ATL they were told that they'll be coming back the next day in the morning even before the compass testing was done. So with that said those guys may have got a free pass - as they effectively made it through day 2-3 without the EK folks even knowing the outcome of their compass testing.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 21:19   #2404 (permalink)
 
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If you were current on type you'd have nothing to worry about. Some type-current guys who jumped ship to be here could never survive the EK selection process. They got hired because the GCAA validates them in 24 Hours; they can fly the line almost immediately and get a token checkout for the purpose of issuing a GCAA ATPL. The regime loves zero liability economic refugees.
It was my understanding that even if you are current on type on an EK aircraft you still go through all training like all other new recruits. Is this not the case?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 22:29   #2405 (permalink)

 
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No matter how experienced you are you do the full course. The previous post about going on the line straight away is nonsense. The GCAA insist on a FULL course for everyone. Process takes a couple of months to complete and it's not easy, even for type rated guys as there is little training and a lot of checking.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 00:13   #2406 (permalink)
 
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I think you misunderstood as my discourse relates to the selection process. Funny how EK's undertakers are first at the scene the moment an airline bellyups
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 00:32   #2407 (permalink)
 
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barberpol - which fleet are you going onto?

Experienced Airbus guys (from the UK anyhow - due to our standard of flying and English I guess...?) are now approved for the 10 day A330 CCQ from November 2010 onwards................stat

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Old 11th Nov 2010, 15:58   #2408 (permalink)
 
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interview

hi everyboby,

could anybody send me some more information about the emirates selection on my e mail?
I tahnk you in advance
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 16:11   #2409 (permalink)
 
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Pilotcbp....

I did my SIM eval in ATL as well and haven't heard back from them yet. They said one to two weeks for them to get back to us. Im going on one week since the eval.

Good luck.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 20:15   #2410 (permalink)
 
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They want good pilots in therm of flying the plane.
They want pilots who take their time to study any situation (incident) before making a decision. The decision making and the ability to work with others are important.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 06:28   #2411 (permalink)
 
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Hi!

Is the BAe 146 considered modern commercial jet aircraft? I would like to know if I could include it in the "2500 hours on a modern commercial jet aircraft" requirement.

Thanks!
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 03:27   #2412 (permalink)
 
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thank you

Barberpol, thank you for your post #2447 on the 10th Nov. It was very informative, detailed yet concise and probaly the most helpful and constructive post in the last 30 pages. Well done on a shining example of what this threads content should be.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 04:07   #2413 (permalink)
 
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For anyone who interviewed recently and made it through the complete selection program, how long did it take for them to contact you and let you know if you made it or not?
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:02   #2414 (permalink)
 
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References contacted after a few days and got the email with job offer about 1 week later. Depends on how quick your ref's are in returning their forms I guess.

Good luck!
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:03   #2415 (permalink)
 
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I made it through the selection process on 8th November (for a job flying a desk). I was told I should expect to hear from them by the end of the month. I'm on the edge of my seat!
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:08   #2416 (permalink)
 
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any idea on how long does it take to be called after being shortlisted?
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 11:08   #2417 (permalink)
 
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i have heard that emirates will, when supply and demand dictate, drop both the minimum tonnage and minimum jet time requirements in order to meet the demands of the airline which at this time is surely quite high.
i have 16-1700 heavy jet hours and am more interested in whether or not there is any truth that emirates will interview you with 1500 jet hours or more provided you meet all their other requirements-on a similar vein i also believe that thet still wont offer a course start date until such time as you have your 2k- can anyone shed any light on this?
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 13:00   #2418 (permalink)
 
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@BritishGuy

Count how many I's you wrote (21).

May have had something to do with being scrubbed.

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Old 24th Nov 2010, 19:49   #2419 (permalink)
 
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Halas, maybe you're right. I wish there was some way of knowing. I'm very open to improving faults that I harbor. Onward and upwards though - can't cry over spilt milk. Though I do wish they drop the 24 month requirement to reapply to something more like 12 months.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 20:18   #2420 (permalink)
 
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pfm, they will also drop your pay, T&Cs, days off, vacation and your general quality of life for the same reasons. I seriously can't understand guys lining up for 8 days off and more fatigue than you can imagine. I know, we all came from places that made us tired, but I'm warning you, this is an entirely different level of fatigue with few days off to recover. Yeah, I'm here now, but if they had told me it would get like this, my decision may have been different.
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