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Old 10th Nov 2010, 09:38   #2401 (permalink)
 
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I just intervied recently and didn't make it past the first day unfortunatley. The simulator I felt went a lot better than I had expected (or at least I thought so). I did the visual circuit pretty well, bang on 900' at the shoreline, landed - fine. Then for the LOE I thought that went pretty good too. Maybe there was something I did that I'm not aware of, but to the best of my knowledge I felt it was a successful ride.

As for the compass testing - well, I'm not too sure about that. I'd say it was OK. I won't claim that it went great (as I don't feel that it did), but I don't think it was a complete failure either. Folks afterwards kept telling me that the Sim is what REALLY counts (but then I doubt the compass testing would be done 'just for fun'). I took it all as seriously as one should.

Anyway, got the call in the hotel room that evening that I didn't make it and that I can apply again in 24 months. I did ask if they could shed a little light whether it was the sim or the compass testing where I could do with some improvement, but they declined to comment.

I guess there isn't much that can be done now, but for personal 'peace' I'd like to know where I went wrong and what happened that shouldn't have happened.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 09:51   #2402 (permalink)
 
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In an airline in desperate need of flight crew, it seems they passed yet again on another solid candidate. There is usually more to the story, but I have recently heard more feedback on good people being passed over. More concerning are sim evaulations where candidates are feeling pressed and moved along to the point that they are not being fairly graded. I have also heard those that were close to the line are being called back within a year.

To those that really want the job, don't let them push you in the sim and try and slow it down.

Recruitment might need an internal audit.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 14:23   #2403 (permalink)
 
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Hi,

I don't agree with you when you say the sim matters the most.

I intervied few weeks ago. I and the 3 guys of my litle group made it the first day. But the third day after the group and panel interviews only one guy made it.

Sim is verry important but also the psychometrics assesments.

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Old 10th Nov 2010, 16:43   #2404 (permalink)
 
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Visual circuit is what you brief them FULL STOP. It's a manual/manual detail so just fly the a/c as a big old Piper Warrior. You all have over 2500 hours on heavy jets............

I took off and turned right 180 degrees starting at 500 feet because that is what I breifed them before take off.

I flew downwind (touch of drift) at 1500 feet, flaps 2, 180 knots because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Abeam upwind end of runway, stopwatch 45 secs, flaps 5 because that is what I briefed them before take off.

After 45 seconds, shallow descending turn 180 degrees, speed 160, Landing Gear and flaps 15, flaps 25 because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Roll out on finals 2/2 whites/reds, flaps full, expecting to be stable at 500 feet (if not we will Go-Around) because that is what I briefed them before take off.

After landing, autobrake low and remain on the runway because that is what I briefed them before take off.

Dont pick holes in my circuit because (a) I passed the 4 days (b) I don't remember the exact figures and (c) you will fly slightly differently from me.

So......

FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.
FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.
FLY WHAT YOU BRIEFED.

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Old 10th Nov 2010, 17:18   #2405 (permalink)
 
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They're doing your 777 or 330 initial training and this is the only reason why they act so pricey. If you were current on type you'd have nothing to worry about. Some type-current guys who jumped ship to be here could never survive the EK selection process. They got hired because the GCAA validates them in 24 Hours; they can fly the line almost immediately and get a token checkout for the purpose of issuing a GCAA ATPL. The regime loves zero liability economic refugees. They know it's way harder to hire their own people. This company has acquired a taste for foreign pilots. Local aviation industry is non-existant. The kind of experienced crew they demand is impossible to get. This airline's sole purpose is to exploit foreign routes, and crew resources, disrupt and interfere with foreign operations. So-called government playing with free oil-money.


Use the Emirates selection process as interview experience. If you meet all their criteria to get this far, you will do really well in a real airline in a country with genuine people. This is a guilded refugee camp y'all !
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 17:49   #2406 (permalink)
 
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I agree - from what I've heard the psychometric testing is a very important part of the interview. I got washed out on the first day - so I can't personally comment so much on the rest of the testing. But I am sure the compass testing does count for a decent part of the interview too as I feel it's why I didn't get through - unless there was something that I did very wrong in the sim which I'm oblivious of.

That being said, the guys who did their sim in ATL they were told that they'll be coming back the next day in the morning even before the compass testing was done. So with that said those guys may have got a free pass - as they effectively made it through day 2-3 without the EK folks even knowing the outcome of their compass testing.
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 21:19   #2407 (permalink)
 
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If you were current on type you'd have nothing to worry about. Some type-current guys who jumped ship to be here could never survive the EK selection process. They got hired because the GCAA validates them in 24 Hours; they can fly the line almost immediately and get a token checkout for the purpose of issuing a GCAA ATPL. The regime loves zero liability economic refugees.
It was my understanding that even if you are current on type on an EK aircraft you still go through all training like all other new recruits. Is this not the case?
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Old 10th Nov 2010, 22:29   #2408 (permalink)

 
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No matter how experienced you are you do the full course. The previous post about going on the line straight away is nonsense. The GCAA insist on a FULL course for everyone. Process takes a couple of months to complete and it's not easy, even for type rated guys as there is little training and a lot of checking.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 00:13   #2409 (permalink)
 
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I think you misunderstood as my discourse relates to the selection process. Funny how EK's undertakers are first at the scene the moment an airline bellyups
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 00:32   #2410 (permalink)
 
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barberpol - which fleet are you going onto?

Experienced Airbus guys (from the UK anyhow - due to our standard of flying and English I guess...?) are now approved for the 10 day A330 CCQ from November 2010 onwards................stat

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Old 11th Nov 2010, 15:58   #2411 (permalink)
 
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interview

hi everyboby,

could anybody send me some more information about the emirates selection on my e mail?
I tahnk you in advance
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 16:11   #2412 (permalink)
 
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Pilotcbp....

I did my SIM eval in ATL as well and haven't heard back from them yet. They said one to two weeks for them to get back to us. Im going on one week since the eval.

Good luck.
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Old 11th Nov 2010, 20:15   #2413 (permalink)
 
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They want good pilots in therm of flying the plane.
They want pilots who take their time to study any situation (incident) before making a decision. The decision making and the ability to work with others are important.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 06:28   #2414 (permalink)
 
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Hi!

Is the BAe 146 considered modern commercial jet aircraft? I would like to know if I could include it in the "2500 hours on a modern commercial jet aircraft" requirement.

Thanks!
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 03:27   #2415 (permalink)
 
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thank you

Barberpol, thank you for your post #2447 on the 10th Nov. It was very informative, detailed yet concise and probaly the most helpful and constructive post in the last 30 pages. Well done on a shining example of what this threads content should be.
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 04:07   #2416 (permalink)
 
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For anyone who interviewed recently and made it through the complete selection program, how long did it take for them to contact you and let you know if you made it or not?
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:02   #2417 (permalink)
 
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References contacted after a few days and got the email with job offer about 1 week later. Depends on how quick your ref's are in returning their forms I guess.

Good luck!
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:03   #2418 (permalink)
 
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I made it through the selection process on 8th November (for a job flying a desk). I was told I should expect to hear from them by the end of the month. I'm on the edge of my seat!
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 10:08   #2419 (permalink)
 
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any idea on how long does it take to be called after being shortlisted?
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Old 24th Nov 2010, 11:08   #2420 (permalink)
 
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i have heard that emirates will, when supply and demand dictate, drop both the minimum tonnage and minimum jet time requirements in order to meet the demands of the airline which at this time is surely quite high.
i have 16-1700 heavy jet hours and am more interested in whether or not there is any truth that emirates will interview you with 1500 jet hours or more provided you meet all their other requirements-on a similar vein i also believe that thet still wont offer a course start date until such time as you have your 2k- can anyone shed any light on this?
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