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Old 10th Dec 2014, 17:04
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ok, I'll take a stab at the correct flight pay. It is 119 AED per flying hour for FOs. Not 110 AED or 114 AED as stated above (unless something has changed in the last 2 months).

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Old 10th Dec 2014, 23:21
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Tks for the updated values guys...

That helps a lot in the decision process !

Anyone could share toughts about how is flying to warzone destinations?

I heard that a FZ acft was found with a bullet hole on it, is that real? Are incidents concerning this matter frequent?

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Old 11th Dec 2014, 12:12
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Goooooooooooooooooooood morning Vietn... Sorry, SOMALIA!!!!
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 11:46
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I agree that "challenging" is the better word. A lot of guys here are drama queens who think that anything outside of Eurocontrol is a "war zone", and treat them as such. I've heard Captains casually drop the hint that they would NOT even consider diverting to perfectly suitable enroute alternates such as Cairo or Tehran
We DO go to Kabul and usually have about 10 odd flights daily to Afghan and Iraqi airports. You should expect at least 1 of these flights on your roster every month, and maybe even 2-3 when you first start due to seniority. We also get quite extensive and prompt security briefings about these destinations and flights are canceled when there is trouble. I would say that most people try to avoid them in bidding, but some don't mind going there because they are mostly easy 5-6 hr block day trips.

The bullet was in fact on the ground in Djibouti, and as Captain Mainwaring said it was a personal issue involving a security guard and a private jet passenger on a nearby stand. As far as I know this is the only serious incident we've had involving weapons of any kind and our aircraft was hit accidentally, not "attacked". The Peshawar incident a few months back was an attack on a PIA flight on short final.
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 14:48
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And to keep things in perspective, whilst I don't exactly relish trips to Kabul, or our other 'challenging' destinations, i'm in no doubt that the riskiest part of my day is the drive to and from work. By quite some margin.

Plan on buying a car that weighs 2 tonnes minimum.
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Old 14th Dec 2014, 04:26
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Flight deck positions at FlyDubai Master Thread - Merged

Agree with Captain Mainwaring, it does pong a bit. Plenty of two tonne cars around, but crank up to three tonne. It is good to have Newton on your side when you are failed by one of Darwins little mistakes.
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Old 14th Dec 2014, 07:42
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Angel List of Cars that can tow 3.5 tonne dead weight

Land Rover Defender
Mitsubishi Shogun/ Pajero
Land Rover Discovery
Jeep Grand Cherokee
BMW X6
Isuzu Trooper
Kia Sorento
Kia Mohave
Toyota Land Cruiser
Land Rover Range Rover
Mercedes-Benz GL
Mercedes-Benz M-Class
Volkswagen Touareg
Audi Q7
Nissan Armada/Patrol



It was a UK site so GMC, Ford F150/Expedition, Caddi escalade, Hummer, etc etc are all missing but Im sure you can work out that a 5.7ltr Ford F150 Raptor might just comfortably do the job!!!!

Above list is a list from a car website of standard road vehicles tha can tow over 3.5 tonnes. The vehicles themsleves weigh 2-3 tonnes.

At the cheap end you can get a brand new Kia Sorento or Mohave for 79,000-99,000AED.

In the middle you can get a new Prado for 179,000AED or new Disco for 229,000AED at the single captain, no kids, lucky sod end of the market you can get a new Range Rover for 300,000AED and for the stupid end a Merc G wagon for 700,000AED (AMG of course!)

You can pick up very easily 2nd hand versions of these for 25% of new price if you go for 5-7 yrs old or 50% of new price for 3-5 yrs old.

If someone is going to hit you you want to be drivig one of these. G sixty is more than correct. If the banking process, powerpoint presentations or paperwork don't kill you then the next biggest threat is getting on the road.

Get some muscle! You wont regret it!
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Old 14th Dec 2014, 13:28
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2015 Deliveries

Hey FD Staff how many 800's are expected to be delivered in 2015?

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Old 14th Dec 2014, 14:02
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@Simba. That's 8 in 2015, 8 in 2016, 8 in 2017 followed by 12 each year onwards. If plans don't change...
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Old 15th Dec 2014, 11:03
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awesome thanks for the info ..hopefully they hire more aircraft maintenance engineers next year
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Old 16th Dec 2014, 13:08
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This people of CTC are incompetent they don't answers mails regarding the change of my assestment, first they offer to change my assestment I accepted and no feedback, I have sent three mails asking to confirm and nobody answer me. I don't know if really they want type rated pilots with experience on the NG but how can they pretend that you leave a stable Job for going to work with people that show such unrespectful atittude before you even go for the assestment. And also still waiting the refund of my assestment fee.. They said yes we going to refund but still waiting. Anyway I'm thinking seriously even go for the assestment, this people of CTC treat proffesional pilots like monkeys. i don't know how a company like Flydubai can thrust the training to this guys.
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 05:53
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This is probably a complaint you need to take up with CTC, they run the recruitment programme there, answering these emails is not a responsibility of Flydubai. If you think not getting a response for something as trivial as this is poor, are you sure you're ready for life in the Middle East? Also, just to be clear, the initial training is run by CAE not CTC....so Flydubai is not "thrusting" their training at them at all.

CTC is a huge company and runs recruitment for many airlines including Monarch, Qatar, and more recently Virgin. Have you tried picking up the phone to these people? sometimes that helps more than just an email


Simba 82....speaking to engineering - they are short staffed so am sure recruitment will be an ongoing process!
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Old 17th Dec 2014, 13:57
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Hey everybody! Newbie here.

The people of CTC were very helpfull during my pre-assesment period back this summer. After passing the Dubai event, i gave them a "thank you call" which really made them happy. They are usually quit busy, so its best to understand them, and let them know you are aware of that situation, and they will answer your emails.

So its been some time, im assumeing i passed the ref. checks cause i was asked for passport details. No news is good news right??
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 12:15
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Thumbs up Istanbul

received confirmation flydubai assessments are to start in Istanbul from 3rd February 2015, but only for rated guys.
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 16:16
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I bet Turkish/Sunexpress would love that, lol!
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Old 18th Dec 2014, 19:39
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not so many TK guys, but mostly SXS and some PGT guys will/might give a try!

Başarılar!
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 06:08
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Joining date. They'll come in on day one with a box with pilot seniority numbers and at random you'll pick one. That's your seniority number from there onwards.

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Old 19th Dec 2014, 08:49
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Actually what High Energy probably meant to say was that the "Pilot Seniority Number" gets pulled out of the box at random, as a "tiebreaker" when more than one pilot is joining on the same date, which is the case almost all the time. In my case, I was the only pilot joining that day (sim partner bailed last minute) so I got handed my next in line Seniority Number by the CP. Your Seniority Number remains with you when you change seats.

Your "Staff Numbers" are meaningless from any sort of benefits viewpoint, and are only good for filing and giving everyone a rough idea about how long you've been here.
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 16:48
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Well normal? Haven't heard of this method before. All my previous companies allocated your number based on previous hours flown.
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Old 19th Dec 2014, 20:36
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You most probably left FZ by the time a chance to upgrade comes along.

In my opinion FZ are going down hill, with what started out as a promising airline has now become just another loco that couldn't care less about its pilots. Your not a person, just a number to them.

Just wait for that salary to be cut in half in the next 10 years....
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