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Old 14th Feb 2015, 04:01
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For Non TR it's about 3 months training
For TR it's about 6 weeks

Flydubai will convert your FAA licence.
You need to sit and pass the GCAA airlaw exam, after a few weeks GCAA will issue the new license.

You are correct with your statement about the interview process.

There are No technical exams during the interview.

During your training you can expect a few technical exams.

note they say they can withdraw there offer of employment at any time including during your training.

Best of luck

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Old 14th Feb 2015, 08:24
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@ imedi

Re. Not visiting Dubai before starting work... Be careful. Maybe you've visited before, or worked elsewhere in the gulf. Or have friends here. In which case go for it. But I would just be a little wary of coming out here if you have absolutely no experience of the region. It's not to everyone's tastes. Life here can drive you a little bit mad, and being tied in for 3 years could make it an expensive interview if you don't like it! (Maybe just come for a quick holiday if you get a job offer?)

And in my personal opinion, if you're American and therefore get taxed on your earnings here, it's not that attractive anymore. A year or two ago the prospects for quick advancement in the company were ok. Now, not so good. It's going to take a lot longer to climb up the seniority and get tolerable rosters. There's no other increase in benefit for length of service. No pension. No increase in leave and no part time working. Dont get me wrong, it's not terrible here. But it's not amazing either.

The forecast is for about 100 pilots to join this year. A lot of them will probably already have start dates. So assume you're joining at the bottom of 350 or so FO's/Captains, and the top 10-20% get good rosters and do the math from there.

You have been warned! Hope you make a decision you end up happy with. All the best.
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 13:35
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I second most of what Jetstreem posted. Specially about coming over to Dubai first and checking it out before you commit. If you have a family, then its a must to bring the wife over to check it out also IMO.

The outlook posted above on rosters and upward movement on seniority is spot on I think. Whether it works for you or not depends basically on where you are coming from and what QOL you have currently.

Only one small note regarding taxes: If you're american, you will only be taxed on that income that exceeds $99,200 (for 2014 fiscal year at least...), if you make less than that and meet the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion requirements, you wont have to pay taxes on that income. With that said, if you make more than that figure, then you will have to pay taxes, but on the surplus only, and at the income bracket that you would fall on based on the total amount earned for the year.

Best of luck!
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 15:34
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Thanks for the info fellas. I'm Non type rated so it would be the 3 month training for me. I wonder what pay is like during that time?

I think for 2015 I would not qualify for income tax evasion because I'll have lived and worked in US for at least 2 and a half months. Doesn't CTC know pilots don't have personalities, we love technical exams! But seriously I would visit dubai before joining, I just was wondering if the interview process would continue in Dubai. I've been dealing with a long drawn out interview process with another airline, and I'm kind of fed up with it.
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 16:49
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For whatever it's worth, I was also non-typed and I was flying the line after 2 months, ymmv.

You could also qualify for Income Tax Exclusion (not evasion,Lol!) even if you don't spend a full year outside of U.S., it would have to be pro-rated though.

Give this a read, good info regarding taxes for US expats.:

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p54.pdf

During training you will get paid basic salary, transportation allowance and housing allowance (first monthly housing allowance depends on whether you choose to stay on company accommodation for the first 30 days or whether you wish to find your own accommodation from the get-go and instead collect the full housing allowance at the beginning of your second month ...). The only pay you will not receive during training is your flight pay, for obvious reasons.
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 20:08
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possible upgrade time??

what are the present upgrade times for a newly joined f/o??

does prev exp on command help in getting a boost on the seniority??

i have heard rumours of first officers starting command training within two years of joining
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Old 14th Feb 2015, 21:17
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Haha yes I meant exclusion! Hopefully Uncle Sam doesn't read this forum
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 11:07
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@ irockoo7 Presently I'd say about 2 years depending on a few factors like your LPC/OPC grades.

Minimum requirements to upgrade are; (amongst others)
- 4,000 hours total time;

- 1,000 hours B737 time including a minimum of 500 hours in flydubai aircraft;

- Two successful OPC/LPC check rides with flydubai;

Minimum 12 months in flydubai since successful initial Line Check

Some guys choose to upgrade as quick as possible whilst others delay it to enjoy the better rosters due to their higher seniority in the right seat. I know quite a few who upgraded between 18-24 months.
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Old 15th Feb 2015, 19:19
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thanks you soo much for the info!! just got an acceptance mail today from recruitment.. looking forward to a joining date now!
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Old 16th Feb 2015, 09:21
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@imedi and @irockoo7

Just a question regarding your experience and profile. I'm building my experience to work for flyDubai to be closer to home country.

Thanks
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 06:35
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Hey i have about close to 3900 TT.. More than 3500 on the 737NG

I believe you will get a call as long as you meet the minimum requirements given on the site..

I know people who have got a call letter who just had the minimum requirements completed.
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 11:59
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Hello

How long is the waiting time for the "positive or negative screening mail"?
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 14:12
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Hey Jack I have 2800 TT with 2100 turbine. Other stuff includes CFI, airline ground instructor, and BS degree. Hope that info helps
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 15:17
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and BS degree.
Media studies?
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Old 17th Feb 2015, 15:26
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that made me laugh
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Old 18th Feb 2015, 16:20
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@imedi and @irockoo7

Thanks for the information

I have TT of 2500 Hrs and only 500 hrs on Jet above the 10 Tonne Weight Limit. So short on that by 500 hours most probably that will take me 8 months to year to get to the requirement. However, I do have 1200 Hrs on (Single Engine Turbine) but it is below the weight limit category.

@imedi- if you don't mind, what kind of hours do you have on turbine? PIC, SIC and is it Turbo Prop or Jet?
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Old 18th Feb 2015, 16:48
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imedi,

I will be in MIA too. My assessment starts on the 23rd. PM me. I have about 5 other guy's emails who will be there then.

See you in MIA.

Congrats on getting the interview.

Smoot-hee

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Old 19th Feb 2015, 11:24
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hey guys,

Do not get it, I fill the application online but at the end it is written ( unfortunately you do not meet the requirements..blablabla".
That is weird because I meet requirements and I am pretty sure I filled the application correctly.
Any clue (s)?
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Old 19th Feb 2015, 18:39
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The negative mail comes usually within a weeks time, whereas the positive takes about 14 working days.. Also consider weekends in the ME are different... But i have friends who have received the mails on the weekend...
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Old 20th Feb 2015, 11:35
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Are the assessments in Hamilton still happening? Haven't heard from them and it's been two months since applying.

Little hard as an Aussie to drag myself to Miami or Istanbul! But if NZ isn't on then I might have to.
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