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CamelhAir,
Firstly how dare you call me a muppet when you have never met me!! The reason there are 'muppets spouting such dross' is because the majority of what i read on here is taken with a pinch of salt, I have many friends who work for Ryanair who are more than happy working for the company!
I am ever so sorry that you really seem to dislike working for Ryanair and really don't think i have the experience to advise you on what to do, so i won't insult you by doing so.
Despite being deeply insulted, i wish you the very best.
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Firstly how dare you call me a muppet when you have never met me!! The reason there are 'muppets spouting such dross' is because the majority of what i read on here is taken with a pinch of salt, I have many friends who work for Ryanair who are more than happy working for the company!
I am ever so sorry that you really seem to dislike working for Ryanair and really don't think i have the experience to advise you on what to do, so i won't insult you by doing so.
Despite being deeply insulted, i wish you the very best.
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Pressman, some sense on here apart from myself. You're quite right, I'm on money far greater than any newbie will ever see, in either seat, something which so many steadfastly refuse to see, even when presented with the reality of €50k skippers.
Mr Horgy, I would strongly suggest that if you are basing your perception of life in ryr on other carriers that you very quickly reconsider. If you don't, you are in a for very very serious shock.
And please spare me the "why don't you move" crap, when you're more than 22 you'll see many reasons why people can't/don't/won't. Plus, as pressman alludes to, my pay is vastly more than you'll ever get. Unfortunately you're accepting of crap undermines everyone elses position, particularly when so few newbies bother with a union.
Grow up boy, the problems are ryr are far deeper than someone getting passed up for promotion, which, if you read my posts, is obvious I wasn't.
JetsetJ, I strongly suspect your friends happy at ryr are brand new, so probably living on a pittance doesn't bother them. Come back to me when they feel the need to begin a life more salubrious than living like a poor student.
BTW, if you feel hurt by some name calling, stay away from ryr. Muppet is mild in comparison to what MOL and others will call you. Except when they insult you, it will be personal and direct. Remember, they hate you straight away cos you're a pilot and they will tell you in no uncertain terms if an opportunity arises. Your skin ain't thick enough if you wanna work for ryr.
Mr Horgy, I would strongly suggest that if you are basing your perception of life in ryr on other carriers that you very quickly reconsider. If you don't, you are in a for very very serious shock.
And please spare me the "why don't you move" crap, when you're more than 22 you'll see many reasons why people can't/don't/won't. Plus, as pressman alludes to, my pay is vastly more than you'll ever get. Unfortunately you're accepting of crap undermines everyone elses position, particularly when so few newbies bother with a union.
What's wrong, were you passed over for promotion?
JetsetJ, I strongly suspect your friends happy at ryr are brand new, so probably living on a pittance doesn't bother them. Come back to me when they feel the need to begin a life more salubrious than living like a poor student.
BTW, if you feel hurt by some name calling, stay away from ryr. Muppet is mild in comparison to what MOL and others will call you. Except when they insult you, it will be personal and direct. Remember, they hate you straight away cos you're a pilot and they will tell you in no uncertain terms if an opportunity arises. Your skin ain't thick enough if you wanna work for ryr.
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Camel,
I'm not here for a personal slagging match, all i'm trying to say is if your so deeply unhappy with Ryanair then surely you must have other avenues available to you. As you point out you've been there a while so you must have a fair few hours - there will be better things out there. Even BA only asks for 500 hours on type!
I'm just fed up of many a thread on RYR descending into farce and mudslinging.
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I'm not here for a personal slagging match, all i'm trying to say is if your so deeply unhappy with Ryanair then surely you must have other avenues available to you. As you point out you've been there a while so you must have a fair few hours - there will be better things out there. Even BA only asks for 500 hours on type!
I'm just fed up of many a thread on RYR descending into farce and mudslinging.
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In answer to your first question - No. All I see is a continual slagging off of new pilots looking to join RYR to get a foot on the ladder, and any comment to the contrary is regarded as blasphemy. I see no constructive points regarding REPA, or infact anything constructive regarding changes at Ryanair at all.
I accept what you say with regards to changing employment terms. But for those of us who don't have gold plated chequebooks and a school that has seduced airlines with marketing spin, what other, VIABLE alternatives do many new pilots on the market have?
I realise conditions at RYR are getting worse, and are not ideal, but as a stepping stone they are ideal - lots of hours, and good flying. People talk about the salary being low - assuming a 2nd year F/O on a brookfields contract does 800 hours a year I make that near 60000Euros, or £42000 a year. Admittedly RYR do not cover benefits, but when compared to a BA cadet salary in the 20k band, they do seem more appealing.
And who knows, if Camel is trying to make it better like you say, then things will go up. I for one would fully intend to integrate myself and push for change, should an opportunty arise.
I don't want people to see what I say as rash or appear to be burying my head in the sand, I just despair at the constant mudslinging with no constructive suggestions.
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I accept what you say with regards to changing employment terms. But for those of us who don't have gold plated chequebooks and a school that has seduced airlines with marketing spin, what other, VIABLE alternatives do many new pilots on the market have?
I realise conditions at RYR are getting worse, and are not ideal, but as a stepping stone they are ideal - lots of hours, and good flying. People talk about the salary being low - assuming a 2nd year F/O on a brookfields contract does 800 hours a year I make that near 60000Euros, or £42000 a year. Admittedly RYR do not cover benefits, but when compared to a BA cadet salary in the 20k band, they do seem more appealing.
And who knows, if Camel is trying to make it better like you say, then things will go up. I for one would fully intend to integrate myself and push for change, should an opportunty arise.
I don't want people to see what I say as rash or appear to be burying my head in the sand, I just despair at the constant mudslinging with no constructive suggestions.
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Camel,
You're coming accross as a real muppet here. You have the nerve to call people spineless? You think its the job of newly qualified ATPL holders (who probably have no better alternative) to sort out the mess at RYR? Surely its the job of the well established Ryanair captains (i gather youre a captain there?) to take action against MOL?
Although maybe you just feel more comfortable coming on to Pprune and indulging in name calling at young cadets, as opposed to trying to stand up to Ryanair management? I can only see one spineless muppet posting here and it isnt any of the cadets.
Pathetic.
You're coming accross as a real muppet here. You have the nerve to call people spineless? You think its the job of newly qualified ATPL holders (who probably have no better alternative) to sort out the mess at RYR? Surely its the job of the well established Ryanair captains (i gather youre a captain there?) to take action against MOL?
Although maybe you just feel more comfortable coming on to Pprune and indulging in name calling at young cadets, as opposed to trying to stand up to Ryanair management? I can only see one spineless muppet posting here and it isnt any of the cadets.
Pathetic.
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Markcoleman, it's the job of every ryr pilot, current or future, to sort out the mess. This is made extremely difficult to do because so many newbies join with their head up their arses, accepting anything thrown at them, which in turn undermines the attempts of those trying to improve the place.
It is a fact that newbies are less likely to join a union and are less willing to engage in action.
Every time a newbie joins on lower T&Cs, the baseline reduces, which filters up through the ranks. Why do you all find this concept so difficult??
That's not for pprune 
That's for REPA, why on earth would we discuss strategies on pprune with those not in the company???
To where??? Where the hell are you gonna go to escape ryr tactics? Do you think other airlines are gonna just remain paying more than ryr because they are nice people??
Wake up people. As superpilot alluded, if you enter ryr all happy-clappy, you are in for a huge shock.
There is constant slagging because it is worse than you imagine. You may not read here what you want to hear, but you owe it to yourself to see clearly the reality.
The ryr reality is not rose-tinted, so why the hell would you want to read a rose-tinted version here?
If you want some TLC, go talk to the ryr recruit team before you pay up but don't bother looking for same from same once the cheque is cashed.
It is a fact that newbies are less likely to join a union and are less willing to engage in action.
Every time a newbie joins on lower T&Cs, the baseline reduces, which filters up through the ranks. Why do you all find this concept so difficult??
I see no constructive points regarding REPA, or infact anything constructive regarding changes at Ryanair at all.
That's for REPA, why on earth would we discuss strategies on pprune with those not in the company???
but as a stepping stone they are ideal
Wake up people. As superpilot alluded, if you enter ryr all happy-clappy, you are in for a huge shock.
There is constant slagging because it is worse than you imagine. You may not read here what you want to hear, but you owe it to yourself to see clearly the reality.
The ryr reality is not rose-tinted, so why the hell would you want to read a rose-tinted version here?
If you want some TLC, go talk to the ryr recruit team before you pay up but don't bother looking for same from same once the cheque is cashed.
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Camel,
Once again you fixate on the wording of what I say, and not the meaning. Let's make it a little clearer then. You do NOTHING but whinge and moan about T&C's, and talk down to would be RYR cadets. How is that constructive in the slightest? Your just throwing your toys out of your pram.
Are you seriously telling me people at RYR haven't done on to bigger and better things? Because sure as damnit that's a lie, I know at least 3 who are now installed in better paying jobs with better T&C's. If they didn't have 1000 JAR25 hours, they wouldn't be, simple as.
Horgy
Once again you fixate on the wording of what I say, and not the meaning. Let's make it a little clearer then. You do NOTHING but whinge and moan about T&C's, and talk down to would be RYR cadets. How is that constructive in the slightest? Your just throwing your toys out of your pram.
Are you seriously telling me people at RYR haven't done on to bigger and better things? Because sure as damnit that's a lie, I know at least 3 who are now installed in better paying jobs with better T&C's. If they didn't have 1000 JAR25 hours, they wouldn't be, simple as.
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Mr Horgy,
If you are about to enter RYR its probably best to stop posting because you are in for a big shock,the Camel is a RYR capt,you are a sprog who knows nothing.
Do a few seasons then come back here and say sorry to the camel,you are buying your way onto an 800,an aircraft that you have neither the hours or skill to fly.
In fact, grovel at the feet of the Camel because its people like him who are going to keep you out of the Daily Mail for your first few years.
If you are about to enter RYR its probably best to stop posting because you are in for a big shock,the Camel is a RYR capt,you are a sprog who knows nothing.
Do a few seasons then come back here and say sorry to the camel,you are buying your way onto an 800,an aircraft that you have neither the hours or skill to fly.
In fact, grovel at the feet of the Camel because its people like him who are going to keep you out of the Daily Mail for your first few years.
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Oh Pprune does make me laugh sometimes! 
Is that what it boils down to? I should worship Camel now because he is superior and he is the Captain? I know nothing simply because I choose to disagree with someones attitude? I certainly won't be bowing down or grovelling to anyone. Upon what basis do you cite my skills or hours? If I fail my LPC, or OPC, then feel free to question my flying ability - until then personal attacks really are childish. I thought this sort of attitude went out after the Tenerife accident!
Should I find he is correct I will certainly eat my hat but I won't be degrading myself on a public forum just so some members can get their kicks. This RYR rant goes on and on and it really isn't constructive anymore, so unless someone has anything more to add that's going to help any other wanabee i'll remove myself from it - i've got better things to do than defend myself on a faceless forum.
Horgy
Is that what it boils down to? I should worship Camel now because he is superior and he is the Captain? I know nothing simply because I choose to disagree with someones attitude? I certainly won't be bowing down or grovelling to anyone. Upon what basis do you cite my skills or hours? If I fail my LPC, or OPC, then feel free to question my flying ability - until then personal attacks really are childish. I thought this sort of attitude went out after the Tenerife accident!
Should I find he is correct I will certainly eat my hat but I won't be degrading myself on a public forum just so some members can get their kicks. This RYR rant goes on and on and it really isn't constructive anymore, so unless someone has anything more to add that's going to help any other wanabee i'll remove myself from it - i've got better things to do than defend myself on a faceless forum.
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Such arrogance, disgusting.
I dont think anyone should grovel at camels feet, is he not one of the experienced pilots at ryanair who has sat back and let the RYR pilots be bullied and degraded by MOL? Now he blames cadets? its the cadets fault? It aint the cadets fault, its the modern low cost aviation industry models fault, and its the fault of all the people who didnt and still dont have the balls to stand up to MOL.
So guys, apart from coming on to an online message board and slinging insults at young, inexperienced guys - tell us what have you done/are doing to take action against RYR management?
*gets the popcorn
I dont think anyone should grovel at camels feet, is he not one of the experienced pilots at ryanair who has sat back and let the RYR pilots be bullied and degraded by MOL? Now he blames cadets? its the cadets fault? It aint the cadets fault, its the modern low cost aviation industry models fault, and its the fault of all the people who didnt and still dont have the balls to stand up to MOL.
So guys, apart from coming on to an online message board and slinging insults at young, inexperienced guys - tell us what have you done/are doing to take action against RYR management?
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To be fair to this poster he has stated in a previous post that he will join a union and contribute to the push for better T&Cs . Perhaps we would be better served to encourage these guys to join . After all no matter what is said here , the cadets will still come . We might as well see if we can get them to help.
I'm not nieve, I see the degrading Terms and Conditions, but only with a concerted effort by all are they going to change. Telling me i'm an idiot on a forum doesn't achieve that. Pressman is right, people will continue to come, so getting them onboard and onside should be a priority - people will only be alienated if you question their flying, morals, and judgement.
Camel - for what it's worth, I apologise if you've taken offence to anything i've said, in fact that goes for everyone - i'm just sick of people slating RYR, but not looking to do anything constructive to change it, especially if they are already on the inside.
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OK Mr Horgey,sorry if I was ranting,now forget Pprune get your head in the books and good luck with your training,know your sim profiles inside out,really learn those memory items and become a Tec expert on the 73.
Hope you find what you want at RYR.
Hope you find what you want at RYR.
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Hi everybody I´m going for an RYR interview in East Midlands and would be delighted to get some info regarding the questions you might get.
I´ve searched the Forum but couldn´t find any posted. So anybody who have info about the interview part I´d appriciate your inputs.
(All talk about how RYR is screwing you I´ve already seen on this site, so you can spare those thoughts.
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Thanks in advance
I´ve searched the Forum but couldn´t find any posted. So anybody who have info about the interview part I´d appriciate your inputs.
(All talk about how RYR is screwing you I´ve already seen on this site, so you can spare those thoughts.
) Thanks in advance
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I had approximately 10 questions, the hardest of which was "describe the 4 stages of the standard departure". Some questions on the effects of high altitude operations, difference between IAS and TAS, where a wing stalls, etc..
Get "Ace the Technical Pilots Interview" it'll make some nice bedtime reading.
HR Questions were standard stuff, what you been doing with your life, why Ryanair, etc..
Horgy
Get "Ace the Technical Pilots Interview" it'll make some nice bedtime reading.
HR Questions were standard stuff, what you been doing with your life, why Ryanair, etc..
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Anyone with a Ryanair assessment coming up want to share an OAT or Virtualaviation sim for 2-3hours? pm me.
depending on sim availability I am hoping for 25th,26th or 27th of this month.
depending on sim availability I am hoping for 25th,26th or 27th of this month.