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Old 28th Dec 2023, 22:26
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So ABC says Bonza has further CX its DN to CG service till March due to ‘regulatory approval process’ hindering them with aircraft and crew. So what gives……I thought that had all been sorted……Has Flair done any work yet? Deano, what’s going on?
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So ABC says Bonza has further CX its DN to CG service till March due to ‘regulatory approval process’ hindering them with aircraft and crew. ...
That's not the way I interpreted that article. The 'because "regulatory approval processes" had hindered its attempt to lease an aircraft and recruit airline crew' was the reason for their initial cancellation announcement on 1 December. The rationale offered for the most recent cancellation announcement was,

​​​​​​​"We want to be certain that we can provide a service that is reliable and to a standard that we're proud of," ...
"Operating the Gold Coast-Darwin route prior to March would mean that we'd be putting a strain on our current capacity and we owe it to our customers and our Bonza legends to learn from our previous missteps by putting measures in place so that we can deliver reliable low cost air travel."
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-12-...arch/103270434

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Old 28th Dec 2023, 23:55
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Thanks Mick for your observation on the new round of cancellations. But what does the new quote really mean, behind the PR spin ?

a) Everything is under control. Trust us.

or

b) Despite resolving our earlier regulatory approval process difficulties, we still managed to stuff up.

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Old 29th Dec 2023, 01:27
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Not enough crew to cover everything....
Sunny Coast Darwin would be an alternative, particularly for those who are making the trip from Brizzy
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 08:41
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“Not enough crew” LOL, plenty happy to head down under to warm up so to speak, reality is OOL-DRW in off peak months is a no goer, as evidenced by the published numbers of customers affected by the cancellations. Even DPS doesn’t get much love this time of year from Darwininans, just ask JQ!
This mob are making Strategic and Jetgo look like roaring successes!
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 09:00
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Originally Posted by Mach2point7
Thanks Mick for your observation on the new round of cancellations. But what does the new quote really mean, behind the PR spin ?

a) Everything is under control. Trust us.

or

b) Despite resolving our earlier regulatory approval process difficulties, we still managed to stuff up.
I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to what is really sitting behind the decision, but I suspect that there's at least an element of the ordinary demand Markis10 is referring to in there somewhere. Deciphering it would be that much easier if it was clear as to exactly what constitutes a standard that they're proud of.
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 18:03
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If Darwin was so bad, why are they still serving Sunny Coast ?
With their fleet of 6 covering 214 sectors per week or 5 per day for each bird one would think that they are fairly well maxed out, pardon the pun

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Old 30th Dec 2023, 03:02
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Bonza was going to be out of business by Xmas according to some PPRuNe know-it-alls
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 06:01
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Bonza was going to be out of business by Xmas according to some PPRuNe know-it-alls
It’s difficult to make predictions, especially about the future. Timing aside, Bonza is doing its best to alienate its already too-small customer base while getting plenty of free publicity. Who knows how much longer they will last?
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 08:20
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Originally Posted by Al E. Vator
Bonza was going to be out of business by Xmas according to some PPRuNe know-it-alls
Mate this is aviation, you always add 12 months onto any promises
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Old 31st Dec 2023, 04:36
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Is it true Bonza are desperate for cabin crew ?. Any truth to the rumour some QLD cabin crew were temporary transferred to VIC and accommodated at a Caravan Park.
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Originally Posted by markis10
“reality is OOL-DRW in off peak months is a no goer!
Why is that? Not enough airconditioners in Darwin?

Sounds like the boys and girls from CASA and Transport Canada need to play a few rounds of golf and sort things out before this temp 3 month waiver expires.
Say no to Qatar Say Yes to Turkish Airlines.
The whole thing is a farce.. Yes, i'm sure CASA boys having to deal with 777 Partners would make anyone want to pick up a knife.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 03:50
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Why is that? Not enough airconditioners in Darwin?

Sounds like the boys and girls from CASA and Transport Canada need to play a few rounds of golf and sort things out before this temp 3 month waiver expires.
Say no to Qatar Say Yes to Turkish Airlines.
Plenty of aircon in Darwin, and cheap accomodation, not to mention cheap rental cars, and a lot of wet weather! Darwin in Feb gets just a bit over a 1000 pax a day domestically from all flights which number around 20.
BTW CASA has nothing to do with which airlines have the right to fly passengers to Australia.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 13:51
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Originally Posted by markis10
“, reality is OOL-DRW in off peak months is a no goer,
This mob are making Strategic and Jetgo look like roaring successes!
But who would have thought Albury to Sunshine and Gold Coast was a goer? That's what an LCC does, throw darts at the board and hope enough of them land.

To the poster that said they alienating their customer base, hmmm.. Wizz and Ryanair have been doing that for decades. Yet they make way more money that the full service cairriers. Have you seen the Wizz U.K AOC cancelation rate over the last 14 months? They pay their cabin staff slave wages so they don't bother to turn up for work.

That's the modus operandi of LCC, treat your staff and customers like sh*t, yet somehow the planes are full and they keep coming back, and you're making the big bucks.
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 20:40
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Originally Posted by antheads
But who would have thought Albury to Sunshine and Gold Coast was a goer? That's what an LCC does, throw darts at the board and hope enough of them land.

To the poster that said they alienating their customer base, hmmm.. Wizz and Ryanair have been doing that for decades. Yet they make way more money that the full service cairriers. Have you seen the Wizz U.K AOC cancelation rate over the last 14 months? They pay their cabin staff slave wages so they don't bother to turn up for work.

That's the modus operandi of LCC, treat your staff and customers like sh*t, yet somehow the planes are full and they keep coming back, and you're making the big bucks.
I wouldn't be touting Wizz as an example of LCC success; they've been losing money hand over fist for the past few years.

And the LCC game is volume driven. RyanAir has access to relatively huge market segments, that they ply with a very efficient operation. The Bonza model is not even vaguely comparable.

As to how Bonza will fare longer term, as the Zen Master was fond of saying, "We'll see."
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Old 4th Jan 2024, 22:37
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Originally Posted by antheads
But who would have thought Albury to Sunshine and Gold Coast was a goer? That's what an LCC does, throw darts at the board and hope enough of them land.

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We haven’t seen evidence any route is a goer, only the obvious failures.
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 07:21
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As to how Bonza will fare longer term, as the Zen Master was fond of saying, "We'll see."
​​​​​​​I know what we'll see. And I suspect most others on here know too.
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Old 5th Jan 2024, 09:41
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Originally Posted by Mr Mossberg
I know what we'll see. And I suspect most others on here know too.
As Australopithecus recently observed,
Originally Posted by Australopithecus
It’s difficult to make predictions, especially about the future.
...
​​​​​​​On that basis, I am always prepared to be surprised.
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Old 8th Jan 2024, 01:41
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Word on the street is "Bonza are looking for cash and lots of it"
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I got a notification today on a social channel

‘50% off all flights for 2034’

Seems like it’s about to die.
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