Jet2 - 3

[dwlpl]

Didnt they say last year (?) that they would never open a base down south?

[wanna_be_there]

bigger than yorkshire could of course mean a new base bigger than lba

With 1 B733 leaving LBA for GLA, and 1 B733 added to MAN, surely it wont be long until MAN is the largest based (yes my location makes that biased but its certainly heading that way).

If a B767-300 is on the way, Id bet on LBA-SFB and/or MAN-SFB/CUN/BGI.

Its more than likely new B737/757's though.

[LBIA]

The email that Jet2 sent out this morning with the title "it's Bigger than Yorkshire and that it's on a grand scale, that will blow your socks off" should have only been sent to Jet2 customers who have Leeds/Bradford as there preferred departure point so far.

This week saw Jet2 celebrate its 8th Birthday since it launched its first seats on sale way back in November 2002. (First flights commence February 14th 2003 from Leeds-Amsterdam)

Last week it was announced by Jet2 that they expected carry 1.2 million passengers this year 2010 from LBA, But for next year 2011 they expect to carry over 1.8 million passengers. I just can't see the increase in passenger figure's happening without some kind of aircraft upgrade or extra based aircraft and new routes been launched shortly...

[dwlpl]

Put two and two together and get five, but on the DSA thread they reckon there is an announcement soon too.

[pug]

'Bigger that Yorkshire' would suggest to me either;

They are going to move inon the southern market, or

They are to introduce the long rumoured long-haul routes.

If they are expecting to carry an extra 600,000 passengers from LBA next year then it is only going to be able to do that with a signioficant capacity upgrade and/or new routes.

[Jamesair]

I suspect its moving into longhaul routes with a bigger aircraft from a selection of bases with one or two flights a week from each one. e.g. Orlando, Cancun, Dominican Republic, Toronto with a combination of direct sales and seat blocks to other tour operators.

[dwlpl]

If they are expecting to carry an extra 600,000 passengers from LBA next year then it is only going to be able to do that with a signioficant capacity upgrade and/or new routes.

That would be equal to three/four 738's annual uplift in pax.

[ib26uk]

Jet2 Merger?

Could it possibly be - bmibaby - similiar aircraft types

New bases at BHX-CWL whilst expanding existing bases at MAN-EMA...

I`m sure Jet2 would move bmibaby operations back to BFS to simplify things...

Just an idea but if they are to "merge" with somebody I personally think bmibaby would be an ideal candidate with the Jet2 name more well known across both airlines

737-800s - Excellent choice - Seemingly being the low cost plane of choice..

[wanna_be_there]

maybe Jet2 are about to go on a huge defensive drive and go head to head with Ryanair at LBA?

Being jet2's home base, maybe they are going to use the 'yorkshire' connection to kill of RYR?

Just a thought......

[LEEDS APPROACH]

The actual press statement said 1.1+ million passengers moved from LBA in 2010 and 'seating capacity' increased to 1.8 million in 2011. ie not necessarily 1.8 million passengers. There is a difference. What was the seating capacity in 2010? My guess is that some of the vintage 733s are being replaced with 738s. Might be wrong though.

LEEDS APP.

[deltahotel9]

Seen as no one else mentioned it, I will. How about major expansion at NCL to see off EZY who don't seem too keen at the moment? Add a couple of those nice 'new' 738s to the base and they could do very nicely on european routes, and of course bring the 767 through for florida etc.

[purplehelmet]

Ive just had a quick look on the jet2 news web site and the" bigger than yorkshire" announcement is no more than a competition starting tomorrow:rolleyes:
ah well im sure there will be more news of new aircraft and routes very soon..

[lagerlout]

talk about speculation running away with itself!

[The Hitcher]

From what ive heard jet 2 need to find a partner fast as the cash is rapidly running out

[jet2impress]

You've not seen the latest set of trading results then for Dart/Jet2? :ugh:

[ryansf]

If I've read the CAA information correctly, in the year up to 31st March 2009 (most recent available) Jet2 made a profit of about £23 million (before taxes). For comparison, in the same year, Monarch made a £70 thousand profit (something for the Monarch thread Jet2 bashers there!), easyJet a £92 million profit, Flybe a £16 million loss, and BA made a £454 million loss. Someone do correct me if I've read the wrong figure though!

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/aln_financial/2008_2009/Table_06_Major_UK_Airlines_%20Individual_Airline_Profit_and_ Loss_Account_2008.pdf

[purplehelmet]

From what ive heard jet 2 need to find a partner fast as the cash is rapidly running out

DART GROUP FLIES HIGH.
23/11/10.
50%jump in profit to £38.5m..spending up from£6.5m to £35m,due to new hub for fowler welch and aircraft overhauls.
end of sept cash balance still boyant thanks to advanced customer payments of £40m.

(the hitcher) maybe you misheard?:rolleyes:

[2Planks]

Methinks The Hitcher may well have failed his probation. Circulating unfounded rumours that are blatantly not true (especially as accurate information is easily available) is clearly not accepatble (IMHO):(

[No RYR for me]

Come on he is just a sad anorak... See his previous post Well said im sick of spotter hate

The Hitcher also overheard the canteen lady that the advertising will be changed next year. :D

[HOODED]

Seems the 2 737s to be aquired for Summer 2011 are indeed NGs one being ex Transavia and the other ex TUI. Nice move for Jet2 they should give some flexability between the 733s and 752s. I suspect more will be sourced as and when they become available.

[purplehelmet]

Ive also read today that the 737s could possibly be coming from easyjet,or/and transavia.

[TSR2]

Are the easyjet Boeing 737's the 700 model with the same seating capacity as the 300 model ?

[TSR2]

Can flight crews be dual rated on the 300 and NG 737's ?

I remember a conversation with a BA Captain quite a while ago and he said he was rated for both the 737 200 and 400 models but to keep current he was required to fly a certain number of hours per month on each model.

[purplehelmet]

TSR2.
i belive the seating is the same (148)
not sure about the type ratings though.

[rubymurray]

737-300 to -900 is a single type rating, the -200 has a rating all to itself.

A few companies have operated both NG and classic like Astraeus, Globespan and Viking.

[purplehelmet]

thanks ruby:ok:

[AP1995]

so jet2 are definatly getting 2 757 of thomson & aparntly 2 737's, & then a possible 5 from transavia?

[david1994]

so jet2 are definatly getting 2 757 of thomson & aparntly 2 737's, & then a possible 5 from transavia?

They already have bought 5 B737-800's with Winglets, one will go to Belfast for a route to Larnaca.

[DjerbaDevil]

david1994:

Jet2 have bought 5 B737-800's with winglets from Transviva. And one will be in BFS for a route to Larnaca!http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


So far confirmed acquisitions are two B752s from TOM, one B738NG from TUI and one B738NG from Transavia.

IF, IF, IF, JET2 had acquired a further 5 B738s from Transavia then why has there been no official announcement nor any confirmation in the various websites that maintain airline fleet lists? Nor has there been any annoucement to the shareholders.

An acquisition of 5 x B738NGs by JET2 would be very big news indeed. They have never said anywhere that they proposed such an upgrade in their fleet and only reported to be interested in 2 B752s and 2 B737s.

Perhaps you could let us know the source of your information.

Recently an airline in the Ukraine acquired 6 B767-300ERs, so your news of the extra 5 B738NGs for JET2 could be but it doesn't make sense.

[david1994]

Perhaps you could let us know the source of your information.Jet2 I know someone that works in operations!

There will be a B737-800 registered on Monday 6th as G-GDFC was previously PH-HZC and also the TUI aircraft will be acquired from TUI and is due prior to summer 2011

[purplehelmet]

Jet2 I know someone that works in operations!

There will be a B737-800 registered on Monday 6th as G-GDFC was previously PH-HZC and also the TUI aircraft will be acquired from TUI and is due prior to summer 2011

Well that accounts for 2 what about the the rest????

[david1994]

They will follow in after Christmas :ok:

[silverhawk]

The registration is hysterical. Is that the sequence for the NGs?

[Ian Brooks]

Silverhawk
Am I missing something here, please explain


Ian B

[silverhawk]

Sure Ian, just give me a call

[TSR2]

Why not share it with us all.

[Ian Brooks]

All very quiet

Ian B

[silverhawk]

GDF is TLA for Great Deal Friendlier

It's an in-house initative for staff to go the extra mile for their customers. Something that most of us do all the time anyway.

Each month a member of staff is recognised for their extra efforts. Though a lot like FIFA, some people are destined never to win.:p:p






TLA is TLA for Three Letter Acronym

[Ian Brooks]

OK Every little helps lol!

Ian B

[tonker]

Especially if they keep scoring own goals!

[plasticAF]

Can't wait for further UP the alphabet and two letter acronyms:E

[JetRob]

Regarding the new planes:

I'm happy to see Jet2 have finally acquired some new aircraft but what i don't understand is why they have put this new planes in bases that are not more used than Leeds. I personally think some of the aircraft already based at Leeds should be moved to these other bases while the newly aquired aircraft can take there place at Leeds.

Leeds is Jet2's home and I think the new aircraft should be kept here not only for Jet2's personal fame but for the thrill of Leeds having some new planes to the airport.

JR.

[BKS Air Transport]

Sorry to question what you say, but what information do you have to say where they are going?

Jet2's own publicity refers to a hike in seating capacity at Leeds next year. Replacing some 733s with larger aircraft would seem an easy way of achieving this.

[Random Flyer]

Leeds is Jet2's home and I think the new aircraft should be kept here not only for Jet2's personal fame but for the thrill of Leeds having some new planes to the airport.



Jet2 will base their aircraft where they think they can make the most money and be most effective. If Jet2 think their 737-800s will perform better at Manchester, Glasgow or anywhere else they will base the aircraft there.

Jet2 and all other airlines do not base aircraft at an airport just to please the local spotters.

Anyway, putting that point aside, have Jet2 even confirmed they have these new aircraft yet, never mind said where they will be based?

[Ian Brooks]

If the 1st aircraft is registered tomorrow as has been said we shall soon find out


Ian B

[righthandrule]

Would it not make sense for Glasgow to receive the 737-800's (If we ARE actually getting any, as it's a new base - so why not start small with the required NG equipment there first?)

I would expect Leeds to maybe one of the last bases to get the -800's, purely because of the amount of spares and stock held here.

Who knows what the plan is, we are yet to see any new aircraft and I'm sure any decisions will be fully thought through. I would imagine that the -300QC aircraft will be fully depreciated by 2013 so it would be cost effective to only use them for cargo operations, thus no need for a replacement as such - allowing any 'new' aircraft to only operate passenger flights at the QC bases.

My thoughts would be that GLA and EMA will get the new ones first - lets see what happens.

[Ian Brooks]

Would it not be best that the aircraft operate from airfields where performance is an issue on longer routes?


Ian B

[purplehelmet]

And the latest rumour is.G-gdfc ex transavia ph-hzc 738, leased from volito aviation joins the fleet this week.
2x757 ex thomson due march/may 2011.
2x737-300 ex ? due march 2011.

[LBIA]

I dont think you'll find anyone on here surprised to see the Boeing 737-800, G-GDFC been based at LBA from its delivery date up until late March/April time.

It is what normally happens to any aircraft that joins the Jet2 fleet. Well that’s what has happened in recent years anyway..

[Chille Con Carnie]

Any news on the 738

[CAP509castaway]

Any news on the 748's??:}:}:}

[Chille Con Carnie]

Well it,s not the first time they,re leased 748,s

[Nakata77]

Taken from the BOH thread, a discussion around Jet2 is mentioned.

What is the appetite at Jet2 for BOH? Yes Jet2 got its fingers burned by doing BFS back in 2005, but that isnt representative of BOH potential. The airport is wide open for exploitation right now.

[geordiejet]

Hi - just had a look at the online booking for these flights. Seat E seems to be missing from the 757 on these flights (well, it appears on the map as a tiny seat). Are these flight operating with reduced max passenger loads?

[jet2impress]

I believe it's a system glitch. There is no cap on the passenger load.

[Artie Fufkin]

Nakata77, PM once famously stated that half of the BOH catchment area is in the English Channel. Not usually a man to change his mind.

[pug]

Nakata77, PM once famously stated that half of the BOH catchment area is in the English Channel. Not usually a man to change his mind.

Strange thing to say considering they have a base at BLK..

[ryansf]

Wasn't Jet2 branded as the "North's Low Cost Airline" or something along those lines (up until recently - I haven't seen for a while)? Keeping that in mind, EMA is really the furthest south they could go if they want to keep that ideology.

[bobleeds]

The “"North's Low Cost Airline" slogan has been in use for some time, but has largely been replaced with “Friendly Low Fares”.

I don’t think the “North” slogan represented any kind of ideology, but was more of a statement of what the airline was and is.

If the airline believes it can expand profitably from other airports in the UK, a southern location would be unlikely to be a stumbling block.

[pug]

I think any further bases will be further south. They have the north sewn up now.

[aeulad]

I disagree, there are still plenty on Northern airports ripe for Jet2.

I think an Aberdeen base could work. Also, with Durham and Humberside, there is potential there. Bases at these two would not dilute LBA and NCL respectively.

Regards

Mike

[pug]

I know what you mean Mike, but i dont think they will ever open any more northern bases. They seem to be more interested in entering much bigger markets.

[itsonthebox]

I heard it was cargo, as they make most of their money from the Royal Mail contract, stick some cargo doors in the old B757's...perhaps they should
re-brand to....."Committed to cargo"....pmsl

[LBIA]

I see Jet2 today announced a new route from its Edinburgh base to Malaga for summer 2011.

Flights will operate 2 weekly operating on Wednesday and Saturdays starting from April 2nd.

[Bartek]

Does this mean a 5th aircraft required for the EDI base after all?

[retrosgone]

The two 737-800s will be based at Manchester. Glasgow will have a 733 and a 752, at least initially.

[aloneontheramp]

Anyone know when the ground/handling recruitment will start for GLA?

[Buy one get one free]

738 at MAN will work well, with 189 seats on offer.

At least there will be no performance issues at MAN. Once the TORA reduces below say 2500m, MTOM is not always assured.

Different beast compared to the 733. Speed are much higher for T/O & landing. Vref30 on the average day about 140 kts mark.
.78+ and FL410 does help.:ok:

[occasional]

"Jet2 announced today a new route from its Edinburgh base ........"

Great!!! At least that is what I thought until I tried to make a booking.

Can anyone explain how loading each web page can fully load my computer for five or six minutes ?

I eventually gave up and came to pprune for more information.

And somehow I dont think I am the only person in Scotland with a slow internet connection.

[Jamie2k9]

It's just your connection. Nothing wrong with the booking engine.

[occasional]

Strange then that I can quite happily use several other booking systems.

[True Blue]

working perfectly for me as well. Maybe you should try deleting history or re-start.

TB

[occasional]

TB,

Dont forget that your connection probably works forty times as fast as mine.

Seems to me that the Jet2 booking system is doing something inappropriate for slow speed connections.

It might even be that the security encoding system is unsuitable.

Occasional

[maat]

G - grounded
D - disciplined
F - fired

[Ernest Lanc's]

True Blue

Jet2 are fine.

The once good booking engine is rubbish.

I have 20 meg cable connection so speed if not an issue.

The engine does not support other open windows or tabs - Close them and you get the same error.

BTW the once good loyalty points are as rubbish as the ADF at BLK - OK for those with no families, but can't use them at peak times like we once could.

Jet2 used to have a good site - shame it;s so touchy.

[Espada III]

Yes - the Jet2 website has become very awkward to use and the Points are a waste of time now. I managed to book a few of our family of five on a trip earlier this year, but from now until next December (2011) there are a total of two seats available for the route we use the most. That is on a route with about 540 seats per week for 52 weeks.

[TSR2]

Cannot access the Jet2 website due to:

WEBSITE SECURITY SYSTEM CERTIFICATE HAS EXPIRED

[ryansf]

Cannot access the Jet2 website due to:

WEBSITE SECURITY SYSTEM CERTIFICATE HAS EXPIRED
Works fine for me, so either a problem at your end, or they have corrected the problem in the 4 minutes since your post.

[757 Speedbrakes]

I beleive Jet2 have members of the IT dept. working 24hrs to fix any problems - after all, it's their main reason of making money (after on board sales!!!!!).

[TSR2]

Seems to have been a temporary fault with internet Explorer.

[Ernest Lanc's]

WEBSITE SECURITY SYSTEM CERTIFICATE HAS EXPIRED
Seems to have been a temporary fault with internet Explorer.
I have had that more than once TSR2 - I use Firefox as my silly new Acer won;t run IE8.

Goes the show the Jet2 site needs sorting as it's throwing out to many errors.

Espada III

The points are a waste of time. when you had to use the phone to use the points - you could more or less pick your dates. Now you spend your points online - We are told the dates we can use and they are the dates that are no good for families I have found.

[egnxer]

I have had that more than once TSR2 - I use Firefox as my silly new Acer won;t run IE8.

Goes the show the Jet2 site needs sorting as it's throwing out to many errors.Internet Exploiter is a waste of time. There isn't a less standards compliant browser around.

[bobleeds]

can we all go back to standard size fonts please gentlemen?

[wawkrk]

I gave up with Explorer a long time ago.
Firefox works perfectly and very fast.

[Ernest Lanc's]

bobleeds

The large fonts are not normal. when you copy and paste a quote with large fonts (at times) the text that follows is large also and can at times be awkward to reset.

If you look at my edit to answer; Espada III - You will notice the fonts went back to default size when edited.

So there you go bob - at times your browser makes it difficult after a cut and paste to re-set font defaults..

.................
Folks, if you go to the Edit function, then highlight the entire post and set the font to Verdana 2 it sorts itself out.

[purplehelmet]

Does anyone if the b738 from transavia has joined jet2 yet?

[david1994]

Does anyone if the b738 from transavia has joined jet2 yet?

Yep one has been registered last monday as G-GDFC :ok:

[commit aviation]

Really?

I can't find any mention of G-GDFC on G-INFO.
Call me old fashioned but it's usually a wise idea to tell the CAA first!!

[purplehelmet]

Really?

I can't find any mention of G-GDFC on G-INFO.
Call me old fashioned but it's usually a wise idea to tell the CAA first!!
commit aviation.
yes that was my thoughts too! but no sign of it on g-info, my usual source of info has buggerd off to the maldives for xmas(lucky git).so no info from him.
just wondered if it had made an apperance at lasham for a cabin refit etc?
my guess would be that it would be respayed mainly white with red titles,as per the other leased/due to be leased aircraft?


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[airhumberside]

I've been through the EDI schedule for next summer and the maximum number of aircraft needed on any day is 4, with La Rochelle now being operated as a w pattern from LBA. So is the 5th aircraft for EDI still happening?

[GrahamK]

Sharm El Sheikh dropped from Glasgow already? No longer bookable..:ouch:

[CabinCrewe]

No the Jet2 GLA-SSH has not been "dropped"

[Chitty]

the flight from GLA to SSH has been dropped because you cant book and it has disappear for the timetable list

[GrahamK]

Nevermind, I see it's still for sale on J2Hols...

[DjerbaDevil]

Nevermind, I see it's still for sale on J2Hols...

Gone to-day..........so that would appear to be the end of the SSH destination from GLA.....

[757 Speedbrakes]

Probably realised that they can't get there and back on a level 2 variation for the flight crew................ and fat chance of them ever rostering crews on scheduled night stops again!

[aidoair]

Probably realised that they can't get there and back on a level 2 variation for the flight crew................ and fat chance of them ever rostering crews on scheduled night stops again!


What would be the difference to say how TOM & TCX both operate return sectors on GLA-SSH etc?

[LPFR]

GSM used to do it too without problems, so is that really the deal with GLA-SSH? One would think that route has everything to work and not just be axed before it even starts.

[DjerbaDevil]

Methinks, the Red Sea sharks have bitten off much more than a pound of tourist flesh than they bargained for.....

[757 Speedbrakes]

I thought TOM & TCX crews nightstop? They do from every other base......

God knows what GSM did, don't think they were overly bothered about following thr rules and regs!!

[Random Flyer]

GLA-SSH cut to add extra capacity on GLA-ALC/FAO and PMI. Strange. :suspect:

Jet2.com Releases More Flights From its Newest Base, Glasgow | Jet2.com (http://www.jet2.com/News/Jet2_com_Releases_More_Flights_From_its_Newest_Base,_Glasgow/)

I like the bit where Jet2 refer to the 757 as a "wide bodied" aircraft. Almost as strange as the dropping of GLA-SSH.

[121decimal375]

:OCan anyone please provide help me get further information on LS518 Tenerife to Newcastle today 17/12/10. We have a relative who was on board, we were informed that the aircraft returned to Tenerife due to engine problem?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[Jamie2k9]

Flight has being cancelled because of technical fault.

Depart by bus to ACE airport at ]11:00 (local) from the Paradise Park Hotel.

Passengers will be flown to Manchester and Leeds/Bradford tomorrow afternoon.

Bus transfers will be provided from both Manchester and Leeds/Brandford to Newcastle.

18th Dec 10
LS918 departs Tenerife at 14:00 (local) and arrives in Manchester at 18:40 (local)

LS224 departs Tenerife at 14:30 (local) and arrives in Leeds Bradford at 19:10 (local)

http://www.jet2.com/status.aspx

[121decimal375]

Thank you, I had checked the website earlier but nothing apart from snow cancellations. I appreciate the help

[Jamie2k9]

Jet 2 have increased services from Glasgow.

Jet2.com Releases More Flights From its Newest Base, Glasgow | Jet2.com (http://www.jet2.com/News/Jet2_com_Releases_More_Flights_From_its_Newest_Base,_Glasgow/)

[aidoair]

I thought TOM & TCX crews nightstop? They do from every other base......

God knows what GSM did, don't think they were overly bothered about following thr rules and regs!!


No they don't from any base. They do a return sector the same day, however they work to very strict limits when delays come into effect etc.

No UK charter airline; TOM / MON / TCX night-stop their crew in SSH unless of a delay or any other cause that would make them run out of operating hours... What made you think they night-stop down route?

[Glasmanuk]

TCX do nightstop on the SSH route. All bases north of BHX nightstop. Trips range from 1 night to 4 nights.

No idea about TOM and MON though!!

[dwshimoda]

No UK charter airline; TOM / MON / TCX night-stop their crew in SSH unless of a delay or any other cause that would make them run out of operating hours... What made you think they night-stop down route?

Don't know about now, but a couple of years ago TCX MAN crew used to night stop in SSH they operated down on Thur and came back on Sun, or the other way around. Nice hotel on the Red Sea as well...

[Monde]

But the point is , was it from Gla that the other carriers operated there and back to SSH. ? The extra 20 mins (at least) northbound makes a return flight to Gla very close (or is out) when considering the max FDP on 2 sectors - even on a level 2 variation . I'm still not sure how Gsm did it either , which was on a slower 737-700 i think , there must have been a lot of discretion reports!

[aidoair]

But the point is , was it from Gla that the other carriers operated there and back to SSH. ? The extra 20 mins (at least) northbound makes a return flight to Gla very close (or is out) when considering the max FDP on 2 sectors - even on a level 2 variation . I'm still not sure how Gsm did it either , which was on a slower 737-700 i think , there must have been a lot of discretion reports!


Yes! I've done it myself GLA-SSH-GLA on a 752. I know it's weather dependent etc but the flight was just 5 minutes longer on the return sector than the average SSH-MAN journey.

[GAXLN]

Well TCX crew have definitely been nightstopping in SSH this year

[Carnethy]

Not that it makes a lot of difference but one point to note is that GSM operated to Hurghada from GLA. Sharm was an EDI service. Most of the time, flights arrived back at source early, so time-outs were not an issue.

Back on topic however (Jet2) have now cancelled SSH from GLA!

[aidoair]

Well TCX crew have definitely been nightstopping in SSH this year


Just out of interest is it just the Scottish bases? I know here at MAN they havn't.

Back on topic however (Jet2) have now cancelled SSH from GLA!

Jet2 would have been aware of any costs of the route such as if they did wish to night stop before they put the route up on sale anyway. There is obviously other reasons why the route has been pulled?

I guess though, extra flights to the good old Med routes of PMI, ALC, FAO etc will make more money for them over the summer months.

[Random Flyer]

Not that it makes a lot of difference but one point to note is that GSM operated to Hurghada from GLA. Sharm was an EDI service. Most of the time, flights arrived back at source early, so time-outs were not an issue.


I think FlyGlobespan served SSH from both GLA and EDI. Your right they did fly to HRG from GLA only.

Just out of interest is it just the Scottish bases? I know here at MAN they havn't.


By "Scottish bases" I presume you mean Glasgow? As its TOM and TCX's only Scottish base?!

Jet2 would have been aware of any costs of the route such as if they did wish to night stop before they put the route up on sale anyway. There is obviously other reasons why the route has been pulled?

I guess though, extra flights to the good old Med routes of PMI, ALC, FAO etc will make more money for them over the summer months.

I would hope so but I do not believe for a minute bookings for this route were low. Its a prime route from TCX, TOM and GSM seemed to do well on there Egyptian routes from Glasgow.

[Glasmanuk]

Just out of interest is it just the Scottish bases? I know here at MAN they havn't.

TCX MAN crew have certainly been nightstopping in SSH.

MAN, NCL and GLA crew all nightstop in SSH :ok:

[Tflyer]

No major relavence. However, have noticed it was mentioned TOM do not nightstop any crew from any base in SSH. Flight Crew & Cabin Crew do nightstop for TOM on the SSH out of MME, EDI, LBA, GLA & I think (not 100%) NWI.

[retrosgone]

There is a simpler explanation. Bookings for Sharm have collapsed across the industry since 5 people were partly eaten by the over-friendly shark.

The whole episode has blown up badly in the faces of the poor Egyptians, and why would an airline start a route in that climate of apprehension?

[mathers_wales_uk]

I wonder if anybody could help me and provide me with contact details for the person in charge of route development for Jet2.com

If you could provide me with name & contact details it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

[LBIA]

Hi

I don't know if anyone else had noticed this but is it normal operation for Jet2 to have the day off and not operate any scheduled flights on New Years Eve?

I'm only asking as I noticed that no flights are due to operate from the airlines LBA base tomorrow. Most other airlines are operating some kind of service.

[Fernanjet]

isnt it normal for Jet2 to pretty much do nothing all winter from anywhere??

never been the busiest airline in the winter historically!

[commit aviation]

It's not been this quiet at New Year previously: tomorrow sees 2 flights from MAN (FCO & HRG) & then on New Years Day there is 1 flight to Malaga from Leeds.
The rest of the network appears to have the next couple of days off!
Ultimately, if they haven't made any money flying over New Year in previous years then it is probably the financially right thing to do. From a PR perspective however it might not be considered "A Great Deal Friendlier"!!!
I'm sure the staff will enjoy the break!

[Just another student]

Still on standby, no break for me lol

[OliWW]

Talking of being quiet... its no busier to any other day in the winter :rolleyes::ok:

[righthandrule]

I personally would rather travel the day before New Year's Eve/New Years Day so that you are in the destination for the celebration. (Hence busy days yesterday/today)

Also to add, G-GDFD B737-800 to join the fleet imminently. G-GDFC B737-300 to follow shortly after.

G-LSAL and G-LSAM both B757-200 arriving in the coming months. It may be quiet now, but come May.... :ok:

[LPFR]

Great news, righthandrule :D

Btw, was that a typo or the so rumoured G-GDFC as being the first 738, is actually a 733? If so, is it one of the ex-TOM? Thanks.

[itsonthebox]

But come May when 40 odd Capts and SFO have seen the light and bugg'rd off to the desert ?

Yes the training department will be busy ...trying to replace the experienced and loyal flightdeck who have

Given.up, are Depressed and now F ooked. off

[plasticAF]

righthandrule

Interesting......where did that come from?

plastic

[righthandrule]

No it wasn't a typo, GDFD should be the first -800, followed by GDFC a -300. According to an internal document there is 5 aircraft coming for next summer, though have not been told anything wether it will be an additional -800 or a -300 to compliment the mentioned above in my previous post.

[AP1995]

i have heard that jet2 will be getting thomson/alligents B757'S X2 & then thomson B737-300 x2 and then a transavia B737-800

[Random Flyer]

Have Jet2 officially received any 737-800 aircraft yet?

[AP1995]

yes on airfleets and jethors it says jet2 have recived a beoing 737-800

[LBIA]

Can confirm that none of the said expected aircraft have been delivered to Jet2 as yet.

Its still early days, Jet2 have plenty off time until all the expected aircraft are to be introduced into service.

The 2x Allegiant Airlines Boeing 757-200’s N903NV & N904NV are having winglets fitted while Boeing 737-800WL, PH-HZC was moved at Amsterdam just before Christmas.

[757 Speedbrakes]

Sorry but aren't the two ex Thomsonfly 757 aircraft just about to enter service with Allegiant Air? Not coming from Allegiant Air........

[OltonPete]

757 Speedbrakes

The 757's I believe were for expansion by Allegiant for new Hawaii routes and it was announced in March 2010 with great fanfare.

March 5, 2010: ALLEGIANT TRAVEL COMPANY TO PURCHASE SIX BOEING 757 AIRCRAFT Company Plans to Say "Aloha" to Hawaii | Travel Is Our Deal | Airfare & Hotel Packages from Allegiant (http://www.allegiantair.com/aaNews/aaNews20100305a.php)

However several articles around November 2010 stated that the plan was
delayed until February 2012 due to ETOPS problems. Hence the aircraft were destined for Allegiant but they do not require them for over a year and hence the rumour Jet2 came in for them.

Allegiant's service to Hawaii pushed back to 2012 - Hawaii News - Staradvertiser.com (http://www.staradvertiser.com/business/businessnews/20101119_Allegiants_service_to_Hawaii_pushed_back_to_2012.ht ml)

If the above link opens it explains the delay.

LBIA

A typo I think as KZC is a KLM F70, I believe HZC is the one, which is last shown on acarsd as flying on Christmas Day!!!

Random Flyer

Keep an eye on the CAA site G-INFO as this is pretty useful.

GINFO Database Search | Aircraft Register | Safety Regulation (http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=60&pagetype=65&appid=1)

Pete

[HOODED]

Acording to JETHRO'S Jet2 will take the 2 ex TUI 757s which will be having winglets fitted and the Transavia 738 but the other 737 is another 738 not a 733 and will be coming also from TUI but will be an ex German machine. Lets hope it all comes out in the wash. All are due before Summer 11 starts. Nice to see some NGs in the fleet.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

You will find the winglets are already fitted to the one parked up in LTN, the other is in the middle east having a check and getting them fitted.
My understand is that Jet2 have already carried out some of the acceptance work on the B737NG, but some problems have arisen between the leasing company and Transavia on the hand over.
Jet2 are also getting a B737 classic in time for the summer, along with the second NG.

[righthandrule]

Just to clarify the aircraft coming for summer 2011.

G-LSAL & M - Both 757-200's with winglets. Ex Thomson (Allegiant). Due March & April. Both 229Y Configuration.

G-GDFC - Boeing 737-300 ex Thomson. Due April. 148Y Configuration.

G-GDFD/E - Boeing 737-800's, ex Transavia. Due March. 186Y Configuration.

The first route the -800's will be introduced on is the Manchester-Madeira service on Fridays. The Monday service will remain on the -300.

[aidoair]

G-GDFC - Boeing 737-300 ex Thomson. Due April. 148Y Configuration.


I'm guessing this will be ex-G-THOL Thomson Airways.

[Chitty]

will there be eny routes for LBA or BLK with the new 737-800

[LPFR]

Very exciting news for Jet2. Hopefully all this new aircrafts will make for another record breaking summer for them.

Wondering about the liveries now. I'd really like to see the 737-800 in full Jet2 colours.

[SWBKCB]

From G-INFO:

G-INFO(Showing item 1 of 1)
Registration Details

Mark:G-GDFC Current Reg. Date:05/01/2011
Previous ID:PH-HZC De-Reg. Date:
Status:Registered To:
Select this link to view the Full Registration History of this aircraft
Aircraft Details

Manufacturer:BOEING COMPANY
Type:BOEING 737-8K2
Serial No.:28375
ICAO 24 bit aircraft address:Binary: 0100_00_000_110_01_0010111011
Hex: 4064BB
Octal: 20062273

Popular Name:-
Generic Name:737
Aircraft Class:FIXED-WING LANDPLANE
EASA Category:CS-25: Large Aeroplane
Engines:2


MTOW:79015kg Total Hours:
Year Built:1998
CofA / Permit: Validity Expiry:
ARC Issue Date:
ARC Reference:
Owner Details

Ownership Status:Chartered
Registered Owners:JET2.COM LTD
LOW FARE FINDER HOUSE
LEEDS BRADFORD AIRPORT, YEADON
LEEDS
LS19 7TU


Open Applications and Approvals Cases

Application Type Received Date Expected Date of Processing
C OF A ISSUE 05/01/2011 25/01/2011

[righthandrule]

Apologies, I was under the impression GDFC was a -300. I know for certain GDFD is an -800 as have seen it's documents.

[HXdave]

I notice that the new Jet2 aircraft are actually showing as CHARTERED (to Jet2.com) rather than the other aircraft which are showing as OWNED (By dart Group).

Any particular reason? Is this because they are just keeping them for a while, rather than buying outright like the rest of the fleet?

HXDave

[TSR2]

I notice that the new Jet2 aircraft are actually showing as CHARTERED

Probably means they are on lease.

[EGBKFLYER]

Yep they're leased

[victoria73]

While back on this thread it was quoted that jet2.com were gonna announce new flights from BFS to Larnaca anymore news on this.Think they were gonna use B737/800 aircraft.

[righthandrule]

All expansion for Summer 2011 has been announced, and the route would not operate during the winter. At a guess if Belfast gets an -800 based then the earliest would be 2012 for Larnaca.

Out of any of the Cyrpiot routes I would expect Paphos over Larnaca as it is much higher yielding and is used by a lot of ex pats living in the south west of the Island compared to Larnaca which is primarily holiday makers going to Aiya Napa.

[david1994]

While back on this thread it was quoted that jet2.com were gonna announce new flights from BFS to Larnaca anymore news on this.Think they were gonna use B737/800 aircraft.

From my contact at BFS this is still going ahead

[righthandrule]

So assuming BFS gets an -800 to fly to larnaca, what other routes will it be used on? And where will the -300 go that it is replacing? I think it may be wishful thinking from your contact.

[757 Speedbrakes]

....... plus BFS is one of the Royal Mail bases so it'll need to be a QC.

[gate 22]

what other routes will it be used on?


Why wouldn't they have a go at MAN or EMA they seem to do alright out of 2 flights per day to LBA carrying 8000 per month, MAN or EMA would pull more. Also do they have aircraft sitting at BFS vacant most of the day during the winter that could be utilised.

[Balair]

With 5 daily flights BHD-EMA there simply is not sufficient demand for any additional flights to Belfast at the moment. Perhaps when the outcome of the WW/BE "battle" is known, then there may be the opportunity to re-introduce a BFS service, but I doubt it would generate much profit, if any at all.
BFS-MAN could possibly work though.

[4Screwaircrew]

Both the 800s are going to be based at Manchester.

[BFS101]

Why wouldn't they have a go at MAN or EMA they seem to do alright out of 2 flights per day to LBA carrying 8000 per month, MAN or EMA would pull more. Also do they have aircraft sitting at BFS vacant most of the day during the winter that could be utilised.
BFS - MAN, BHX, EMA etc, I imagine would carry a good share of business passengers, so to be sustainable would really require early morning and evening returns to BFS. I would see little point of Jet2 using an aircraft to offer once a day, or middle of the day flights to these cities. I doubt Jet2 would prioritise 3 aircraft to take a chance on these routes and allow peak timed flights.

If Jet2 still intend to operate Larnaca from BFS, you think they'd want to release the seats soon, before they miss the peak booking period for the summer. Think its looking unlikely, no???

[victoria73]

So take it then nothing coming from jet2 then ah well maybe next year.

[righthandrule]

Seems like plenty of Jet2 aircraft frequently parked up again this winter. Other than the short Hajj contract, anything else in the pipeline to keep these birds working until summer?

Yeah, got a busy charter programme over the coming months. Includes

BFS- Weekly charters to Verona and Plovdiv. Ad hoc's to Venice, Budapest, Lourdes and Milan.

EDI- Weekly charters to Geneva, double weekly to Chambery. Plus several Ad-hocs' for Northern Lights.

LBA- Weekly charters to Chambery, Ad-hocs to Lyon, Krakow, Paris and Northern Lights.

MAN- Weekly charters to Cambery, double weekly to Salzburg, Ad-hoc's to Amsterdam, Lyon, Copenhagen, Oslo, Rotterdam, Turin, Paris, Nice.

NCL - Weekly charters to Grenoble & Bergen.

DUB- Weekly charters to Chambery, Ad hocs's to Salzburg, Lyon & Rome.

LGW- Twice weekly charters to Chambery, weekly to Plovdiv & Tromso.

The RAF charters to Akrotiri have just ended after 3 months of 2/3 weekly flights. Ad-hocs from other UK Airports: SOU, STN, LTN, LHR, GLA, BRS, BHX and ABZ. Very busy charter programme, plus all 737's in the process of having a cabin refurb. It may seen quiet with various aircraft parked up, but plenty of revenue streams coming in.

[SCANDIC]

Did jet2 not fancy taking G-OOOZ off thomson.

[freightdoggy dog]

More revenue than Chelski...what would J2 do without Godders and team:ok:

[Jamie2k9]

DUB- Weekly charters to Chambery, Ad hocs's to Salzburg, Lyon & Rome.



Also weekly flights to Verona-Brescia

[AP1995]

are jet2 getting 2 737-800 & 2 757-200 & 1 737-300 then?

[Ian Brooks]

The first B737 800 is just about to land at Leeds this timehttp://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif

just pipped to the post but in answer to where it has come from Amsterdam

Ian B

Edited to add answer to previous

[AP1995]

so the 737-800 is at leeds now?

[737 Speedbrakes]

That's what they said! Yes, it's at Leeds

[righthandrule]

You sure it wasn't G-GDFA that just arrived from Amsterdam as the LS202?

[DIRECTTANGODELTA]

G-GDFC is ex PH-HZC with Transavia, it is in basic HV colours so will need a paint job before entering service. It was delivered today from AMS.

[Ian Brooks]

Probably go into Air Livery at Manchester before it goes into service
hope not in white scheme with Jet2 titles as the full scheme is one
of the nicer schemes around

Ian B

[OliWW]

The two 757's will be in the while scheme, as applied to AD and AK

[HXdave]

whilst waiting for a friend to arrive at leeds sunday 09/01, i noticed on the boards that LS had a flight departing 16:00 hrs (ls6009, i think) - destination Leeds Bradford. On the arrivals boards was the same flight - ls6009 - from Leeds Bradford!

Anyone any idea what this flight was for, or is it their new route they are doing under the guise of 'Yorkshire Ailines'.............. lol

HXDave

[jet2impress]

HXDave..... That was a fear of flying course operating for Virgin.

[HXdave]

jet2impress, thanks for that. i had an idea it might be something like that, especially as it was a little too late for the santa flights........... lol.

Regards

HXDave

[MILEHIGHBOY]

jus booked flight SSHNCL WITH LS FOR £9.99 fare! why has the 757-200 got 42 rows. norm its 40.

[TSR2]

why has the 757-200 got 42 rows. norm its 40

The Rows are numbered to 42 but there is no Row 3 or Row 13.

[lfc84]

dont forget your taxes and charges. still a bargain though. well done

[Set takeoff thrust]

G-GDFC Showing on LBA website as flying up to EDI tomorrow, anybody know why??
19:00 EDINBURGH GGDFC

[Random Flyer]

Thank you for the information and the link, OltonPete. :ok:

[Ian Brooks]

Crew Training/check flight something on those lines?

[binsleepen]

The first 738 arrived at LBA yesterday. Off to the paint shop at MAN tomorrow.

Regards

[LBIA]

I guess you did'nt check some of the older posts on here "binsleepen"

If you had, You may have noticed that the first Jet2 Boeing 737-800, G-GDFC has been at LBA since it arrived on Saturday, Not yesterday.

[binsleepen]

soz

regards

[GlennTheBaker]

G-GDFC arrived MAN on Stand 70R at 16:33. Had a look on board but nothing to see - empty shell.

[TSR2]

I wonder if Jet2 will show an interest in the Condor B757-300 aircraft which are due to be phased out of service commencing next year.

[MUFC_fan]

The 753 is a unique aircraft in that is demands to be used on trunk short/medium haul routes. Maybe it would be good for summer Spanish routes from MAN and Canaries in the winter.

They'd certainly be cheap and it's my undertanding it would have the lowest CASM in the of any of their aircraft? Except for the 738 of course.

Would be nice but I can't see it happening tbh.

[Papa2Charlie]

TSR2,

What makes you think the B753's are being phased out from next year??

Cheers,

P2C

[TSR2]

An article in the February edition of Airliner World says that Condor are to standardise their fleet by replacing their B753's and older A320's with a mix of new A320/A321's.

[goldeneye]

An article in the February edition of Airliner World says that Condor are to standardise their fleet by replacing their B753's and older A320's with a mix of new A320/A321's.

It's not just Condor, Its the whole of the Thomas Cook groups shorthaul fleet, including DE, DK, FQ and TCX. There may be quite a few 757's coming up for lease or sale soon.

[Papa2Charlie]

Condor and TCX are most likely holding onto the B753's for another few years in my opinion. It's a hard (verging on impossible) aircraft to replace from an operability and costs perspective. While the B752 is a hard aircraft to replace, the B753 is an even harder act to follow. The lease maturity profile favours the replacement of the current TCX A32X fleet and the B752's. The B753's are generally owned rather than leased so no pressing need to do anything with them.

Either way, I'm sure Jet2 will only pick up B737's or B757's at the right price.

Just my two cents...

[Ian Brooks]

A friend of mine who works for Thomas Cook Engineering has told me that Thomas Cook will be releasing all the boeing 757 in next 2 years and going Airbus and that is UK and Germany






Ian B

[DjerbaDevil]

JET2 has a very busy summer season and a much quieter winter. Due to planned growth for the summer of 2011 the fleet is expanding by 2xB738NGs, 1xB733 and
2x B752s. JET2 own most of their present fleet and some recent additions have been leased. With a quiet winter programme it would suit the finances of the company to lease in the summer and return the aircraft in the winter. It would appear that the 2 B752s will probably be leased, not bought, from Allegiant Air for the summer and then returned to them in the winter to operate flights to Hawaii for the Allegiant Air winter programme.

If this is in fact the deal with Allegiant Air and it works out favourably for both companies during the summer of 2011 and winter of 2011/12, then there would be more opportunities for leasing B752s for JET2's growth in future summer seasons, as Allegiant Air has committed to take about six B752s for their future winter sun programme.

It would make it unlikely for JET2 to buy or lease B753s from Condor, if the above 'guesstimate' is anywhere near the truth.....

Another consideration are the different carrying capacities of the B753s and the B752s.

[airhumberside]

I don't think the Allegiant (G4) deal will be long term. AFAIK they haven't sorted out ETOPS yet so can't begin their Hawaii programme this summer. But when it does start chances are it will be year round. Most of G4's routes operate for most of the year, albeit at varying frequencies dependent upon the season

[goldeneye]

Jet2 has cancelled its enitre Tunisian programme for summer 2011, The flights were to operate from LBA, NCL, MAN and GLA.#

Source (http://www.travelmole.com/stories/1145974.php)

[righthandrule]

Not really a surprise, I guess over the last week bookings have almost stopped and will not recover for a good while. A real shame though as Jet2 have really pushed Tunisia this year with increases from some stations.

I suspect it may be back though eventually, certainly last year it did really well and was a dam good earner for on board sales!

[Jamie2k9]

I agree. There was no need to close all flights until summer 2012. It's a long way off July and August but in a way it's good that they made the decision now rather than lather and they are giving passengers notice.

GLA base is getting smaller and smaller. 2 routes dropped and it hasn't even opened yet.

[wanna_be_there]

Thats a real shame, but I guess customers safety has to be put first.

There is a new government in Tunisia, but now there is in fighting between those who support the new Govt and those who supported the old one, so the situation is still dangerous.

I wonder if any other operators will follow suit? I suppose its easier to re-book people now, and spread them across the programme before the last minute bookings make the job more difficult.

[Mr @ Spotty M]

The customer safety issue is only for those booked on Jet2 Holidays and the rest is down to a high risk of making a loss on the routes.
Before anyone gets on their high horse, l would do the same if it was up to me.
Gives Jet2 time to add capacity on its other routes.

[righthandrule]

The MD has announced that further 737-800 models will be entering the fleet and will be introduced at all bases. They will initially work alongside the -300's and the 757's but will be the long term fleet.

So lets start the speculation, like for like replacement or will we see the surplus -300's and 757's be deployed elsewhere? A good way to test the water at other airports with fully depreciated and still cheap to operate 737's.

[wanna_be_there]

The MD has announced that further 737-800 models will be entering the fleet and will be introduced at all bases. They will initially work alongside the -300's and the 757's but will be the long term fleet


Advert for B737-800 captains in flight international says the same. It says the B738 will be working alongside the B733 and B752 at MAN, then progressivly rolled out to other bases.

Im not sure if the B738 is too big for some routes, such as MAN-BUD or MAN-BJV or NCL-KRK, whereas the B733 is more suited (size wise).
Im sure time will tell where they get posted and which routes.

Im guessing the B738 may be initially used on MAN-FAO/ALC/ACE so on, with the B733 doing cities and B752 doing Trunk routes/longer flights (MAN-TLV/PMI/SSH etc)

[Ripping Yarns]

You could easily fill a 738 on the Manchester Budapest route.
It is always full. It is not just people going for breaks and the service is used by lots of Hungarian's and other nationals from that region.

[righthandrule]

The 737-800's will initially be used on MAN to Budapest and Rome plus a weekly Funchal sector. I suspect once they are operationally used to operating the type it will be used on the longer routes.

I might take a guess that some -700's may arrive in due course for routes that cannot sustain an -800 and as a direct replacement for the -300?

[Ripping Yarns]

Righthandrule that's exactly what I was informed was happening.
The 738 can cope with any destination offered by Jet2. It is just a matter of how many seats required against fuel burn.
That will decide what kind of aircraft goes on a route.
And that is for the commercial department.

[EuroChallenger]

Rome and Budapest were operated in the past with a Futura aircraft? What was the seating capacity on that?

[LPFR]

Probably the same as Jet2 will be, 189Y like most LCC and charter airlines.
Fewer LCC airlines though have configuration of 186Y, like Transavia or Air Berlin.

Great news about even more 737-800, can't wait to see them operating! :ok:

[TSR2]

Probably the same as Jet2 will be, 189Y like most LCC

Maybe Jet2 will have fewer seats if optional extra legroom seating is offered.

[LPFR]

Could be. As Summer is always time of big demand, and they're starting out the 738's apearently in short routes where people don't need so much the extra space for a couple of hours, I wouldn't bet my money on that, I'd say the 18 standard extra-legroom seats would be enough, but.... you never know. :)

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Rome and Budapest were operated in the past with a Futura aircraft? What was the seating capacity on that?

That was a 737-400, seating about 170 from memory.

[Mr A Tis]

Is this a fleet replacement programme, or are the B738s an expansion to the fleet, with the B733s soldiering on a few more years?

[JKKne]

Does anyone know what Jet2 are planning to fill the spare slots to Tunisia with?

[Ian Brooks]

G-GDFC sat on west Apron at Manchester respendent in full Jet2 silver/red colours
should be off to Leeds soon to have it`s new seats and interior fitted


Ian B

[LBIA]

Jet2's B738, G-GDFC has now arrived at LBA and is currently parked on the main apron.

She should be entering multiflight hanger later.

[757 Speedbrakes]

Does anyone know what Jet2 are planning to fill the spare slots to Tunisia with?

....... Scheduled weekend flights to Manston for day trips to Margate! :hmm:

[freightdoggy dog]

Jellied eels and a pint of London pride...Its what every true Yorkshireman hankers for S757...cor blimey Guvnor...Then again, its what they get in Benidorm...its a winner !

[Set takeoff thrust]

Here she is in all her beauty!

Photos: Boeing 737-8K5 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/Jet2/Boeing-737-8K5/1853504/L/&sid=31b8e3cfaf471a27f1098860e58e313d)

[LPFR]

Absolutely beautiful! Love it :D

[groobs]

Strange name for a plane "22kg luggage allowance" :ok: ;)

[Johnny F@rt Pants]

Strange name for a plane "22kg luggage allowance"

Looks like it's named Cyprus to me, which is a bit worrying, I don't want to be going that far in it!!!

[Check Mags On]

JFP

That's just a tech stop.

MAN-PFO-BOM :eek: LOL

[speedbird9274]

LBA-PFO-ISB !!!!! ( may need drop tanks ) :E

Speedbird9274

[LPFR]

What's the big deal? Most UK LCC operate the 738 to PFO and it's perfectly fine. Besides the 738 the most used aircraft is the 752 and there's really not a lot of difference between the two, once onboard.

[theloudone]

Just needs the Fly Lo logo now :)

[Check Mags On]

No big deal, just having a moan and a whinge at having to sit there for 5 hours turn it round and sit there for 5 hours on the return.

Have operated the 737 to PFO and beyond (HRG, SSH, and also to the East coast USA, although these were obviously night stops) many times.

It was just a bit of banter.;)

[N707ZS]

When does the curcuit bashing start? and where? I presume its going to take a bit of time to get a number of crews trained on type.

[silverhawk]

I don't think there is a need for circuits.

Differences course can be done in the sim.

The GDF reg does make me laugh though.

[Bam Thwok]

The GDF reg does make me laugh though.

Your not joking....but it's not as funny as observing everyone at Manchester "drooling" over the arrival of the thing....they're all like a bunch of kids on Xmas morning....bloody hilarious !!

[binsleepen]

Circuits have recently been done at St Mawgan and Finningley (Newquey and Doncaster). Each individual requires 3 rollers (touch and goes) and 1 full stop or 5 and 1 depending on experience. Preswick is sometimes used as well depending on the weather.

Regards

[N707ZS]

I am sure you will be welcome to come and bash the circuit at Teesside nothing much to get in the way these days, not sure on the costs though.

[Check Mags On]

binsleepen

I think N707ZS was referring to circuits for the 737-800.
Circuits are not needed for those of us flying the 300, and for those of us who have flown the NG already we technically don't need anything but a line check.

If N707ZS is referring to non rated new hires then what binsleepen says stands.

[LBIA]

It was a Boeing 757-200 that did the circuit bashing both Newquay before Christmas and last week down at Donny. 2 weeks ago a Boeing 737-300 was circuit bashing at Teeside.

Boeing 737-800WL G-GDFC has not moved off stand 18ish since it arrived at LBA on Saturday afternoon after coming back from the Air Livery paint shop at Manchester.

So with her not been pulled over to Multiflight yet, I'm taking a guess that she still has'nt had her new seats and interior fitted. Thats unless they can do this fit-out while she is parked on stand?

[righthandrule]

FC went to the hangar today and had the interior branding and seats done and is now back on the main apron. We were told at work that no crew training will be carried out as such due to the amount of 737NG pilots Jet2 have taken on in the recent recruitment drive.

[LPFR]

righthandrule, nice to know the aircraft is getting ready to start service. Is anything scheduled to be soon or just end March/April summer season? And routes? Surely not only Rome and Budapest I hope.

[SCANDIC]

Is there any 767's in the pipeline at all.

[DjerbaDevil]

There was a lot of excitement last year about B763ERs and even negotiations took place, so that a couple were attributed to JET2 and even added to their fleet on some data bases but this has all come to nothing. Taking into account that TCX may be withdrawing their long haul fleet in the not too distant future, or so the rumour goes, there may be some rethinking in JET2 about taking any long haul B763ERs that may not suit their present day successful programme.

[SCANDIC]

Thanks for answering that. How long do you thing they'll keep the 757's for.

[DomyDom]

With Tunisia knocked on the head for this summer. Any news as to whether there will be any new routes (especially from MAN) or are the planes just going to stay on the ground this summer? Any news would be interesting.

[Facelookbovvered]

I understand that more Sharm flights were being looked at, but that the situation in Egypt is causing a more cautious view.

Whilst Sharm is quiet at present it's still very much in Egypt and most tour operators have reported a drop in bookings. Hopefully things will settle but why would a punter take the risk for what will probably be their main holiday of the year?

Turkey should do well provided the unrest does not spread

The NG looks well with Jet2 winglets, but for me the battleship grey is looking a little dated, I prefer the white 757 scheme on newer and larger airframes that don't have the fuselage ripple effect seen on the classic fleet

[freightdoggy dog]

Lol the " classic" fleet" !!...well its nice to see the Brian Freeman ethic still lives on in Channex...paint it white and it will be alwight:ok:

[conti onepass]

Jet2 cancelled all flights to egypt. just had my holiday to sharm in june cancelled:(

[fanrailuk]

That is, I must say, a bold move. Whether it be right or wrong, we'll see.

PP :ok:

[aidoair]

Wow! Now this I am really surprised about! Atleast hopefully it will help other tour operators/airlines on the route which is now most likely going to be a difficult summer for the route. But wow, a very bold move indeed!

[mathers_wales_uk]

They did a similar thing with the Tunisia flights.

[Shrimps]

Are Jet2 not doing a BLK-TFS route this summer? They have flights loaded until May, then nothing until September - surely they aren't dropping the route for the busiest time of the year?

[Chitty]

jet2 has never do a flight from blackpool to tenerife in the summer it is a winter flight only

[wesleyscott]

they have cancelled all Sharm flights from march

[sam1993]

I must say I am surprised at that decision!

Whilst the Red Sea resorts are not currently affected, the safety and comfort of our customers is our number one priority

If they are that concerned about their customers safety why are flights not being cancelled until the end of March?!

[Fernanjet]

What a completely bizarre move....

i was in sharm up until a day or so ago and its completely peaceful....if you didnt watch the news you honestly wouldnt know of any problems in egypt....

why take such a decision now? unless something else is really the issue?

[pug]

Perhaps they are anticipating a drop in bookings after the period? Would be quite understandable given the circumstances.

[Fernanjet]

Perhaps they are anticipating a drop in bookings after the period? Would be quite understandable given the circumstances.

they wouldnt cancel a whole season based on a a problem like this - ie: not currently affecting the area directly.

why not cancel with immediate effect if that was the case?

[conti onepass]

the last flight is the end of this month, then thats it.hurganda has gone as well

[conti onepass]

just received the email from jet 2, they are thinking of customers safety and as from 1st march all flights have been cancelled.

[Fernanjet]

very very rash decison IF thats the true reason.

its 21 days away....21days in the middle east - anything could happen at any time of the year in that duration. Peace - War - Peace again....

a tad hasty i think.

why not cancel them now if thats really the case - or do they not care for the safety of their february passengers? Which is clearly the case if they are still opeating there in February.

[deltahotel9]

While it is obviously true no one knows what the position is in Egypt in the next few weeks let alone months, according to reports at the weekend bookings for Sharm are massively down as a result customer concerns about the political position out there. It is a very bold move but depending on what they replace the Sharm flights with could just make them lots of money. Time will tell.

[conti onepass]

i did notice an extra palma flight from manchester on a sunday.not sure if thats replaced sharm