Foreign pilots now allowed to apply for a Green Card?
Joined: Dec 2022
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From: New Zealand
After going through and still being in this process.
a. I don’t see how anyone has a reply in any of the short times indicated here when official receipts of submission take 2-3 weeks to be sent through.
b. After seeing the level of accuracy and detail that a professional application contains, I wouldn’t even consider doing it myself.
c. After taking personal time required to submit/cost of professional services, I’d rather spend that time creating value elsewhere. Or watching some paint dry.
Well done anyone who genuinely gets approval on a personal application that hasn’t just copied someone else’s, that’s a spectacular result.
a. I don’t see how anyone has a reply in any of the short times indicated here when official receipts of submission take 2-3 weeks to be sent through.
b. After seeing the level of accuracy and detail that a professional application contains, I wouldn’t even consider doing it myself.
c. After taking personal time required to submit/cost of professional services, I’d rather spend that time creating value elsewhere. Or watching some paint dry.
Well done anyone who genuinely gets approval on a personal application that hasn’t just copied someone else’s, that’s a spectacular result.
Joined: Jan 2023
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From: EU
After going through and still being in this process.
a. I don’t see how anyone has a reply in any of the short times indicated here when official receipts of submission take 2-3 weeks to be sent through.
b. After seeing the level of accuracy and detail that a professional application contains, I wouldn’t even consider doing it myself.
c. After taking personal time required to submit/cost of professional services, I’d rather spend that time creating value elsewhere. Or watching some paint dry.
Well done anyone who genuinely gets approval on a personal application that hasn’t just copied someone else’s, that’s a spectacular result.
a. I don’t see how anyone has a reply in any of the short times indicated here when official receipts of submission take 2-3 weeks to be sent through.
b. After seeing the level of accuracy and detail that a professional application contains, I wouldn’t even consider doing it myself.
c. After taking personal time required to submit/cost of professional services, I’d rather spend that time creating value elsewhere. Or watching some paint dry.
Well done anyone who genuinely gets approval on a personal application that hasn’t just copied someone else’s, that’s a spectacular result.
B. I completely agree with you. I couldn't imagine creating the NIW package myself. A good lawyer is a must in my opinion.
C. If I understand you correctly, you're still waiting for either an approval or stuck in the current retrogression? Either way, good luck to you. This process is long and tiring, but I firmly want to immigrate to the US and the career prospects are generally much more positive in the US than elsewhere in the world.
Joined: Aug 2019
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From: Brexland
Hello Everyone,
I made it, I got approved, all done my myself alone after researching the internet and sharing ideas with other pilots. My profile:
- FO, Wide Body, Less than 4000 hrs, EASA ATP, EU Citizen
- Maters Degree in Aeronautical Engineering
- 6 years Work Experience as Engineer, 7 Years as FO
- Aviation Freelance Consultant
- No Papers, No publications, 4 Ref. Letters
- I used common sense and good arguments
I got a direct approval, no RFE
It took me 4 months to write, after researching the internet for a year. I got some guidance from people I met in FB groups. Lawyers asked for 18k $ non refundable paid upfront. The same lawyers ask for 5000 $ (2500 upfront and 2500$ once approved) when it is about other professions. It is for exactly this reason that I have decided to apply myself.
Good Luck everyone.
I made it, I got approved, all done my myself alone after researching the internet and sharing ideas with other pilots. My profile:
- FO, Wide Body, Less than 4000 hrs, EASA ATP, EU Citizen
- Maters Degree in Aeronautical Engineering
- 6 years Work Experience as Engineer, 7 Years as FO
- Aviation Freelance Consultant
- No Papers, No publications, 4 Ref. Letters
- I used common sense and good arguments
I got a direct approval, no RFE
It took me 4 months to write, after researching the internet for a year. I got some guidance from people I met in FB groups. Lawyers asked for 18k $ non refundable paid upfront. The same lawyers ask for 5000 $ (2500 upfront and 2500$ once approved) when it is about other professions. It is for exactly this reason that I have decided to apply myself.
Good Luck everyone.

Joined: Nov 2018
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From: NAT-HLA
I'm not sure of anyone is willing to share tips with you as most pay top dollar and/or putting their time into research which could worth equivalent top dollar. In any case here's one who didn't make it, could be of help on how not to do it.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FErjswLaM1d24T
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...FErjswLaM1d24T

Joined: Sep 2019
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From: Mexico City
That's the elephant in the room. Nobody talks about the people who got rejected.
I spoke to a lawyer who claimed a 100% success rate. After some more questions he admits that he only submits the application if he is certain it will be approved.
So if 10 people contact you, what's the percentage of people you think will be approved? Oh about 2 in 10 he said.
I spoke to a lawyer who claimed a 100% success rate. After some more questions he admits that he only submits the application if he is certain it will be approved.
So if 10 people contact you, what's the percentage of people you think will be approved? Oh about 2 in 10 he said.

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From: Village of Santo Poco
Joined: Jan 2023
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From: EU
And to the previous comment, of course not every airline pilot is qualified for a NIW. To suggest otherwise would be highly unethical of a lawyer to do.
Joined: May 2023
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From: Toronto
Just a quick update. As I previously stated, did EB-2 NIW on my own, no lawyers. Did not use premium processing. I-140 was filed Oct 2021/ Got my passport with EB-2 NIW visa stamped end of May. It took us a year and a half to get everything done. The question of the lawyer depends on whether you are capable of researching the internet, immigration communities.
If you don't have a Degree, lots of hours and experience, you might not get approved with lawyers/without, but you can always try to make your case stand out.
If you don't have a Degree, lots of hours and experience, you might not get approved with lawyers/without, but you can always try to make your case stand out.
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: North America
Just a quick update. As I previously stated, did EB-2 NIW on my own, no lawyers. Did not use premium processing. I-140 was filed Oct 2021/ Got my passport with EB-2 NIW visa stamped end of May. It took us a year and a half to get everything done. The question of the lawyer depends on whether you are capable of researching the internet, immigration communities.
If you don't have a Degree, lots of hours and experience, you might not get approved with lawyers/without, but you can always try to make your case stand out.
If you don't have a Degree, lots of hours and experience, you might not get approved with lawyers/without, but you can always try to make your case stand out.
2. Have you paid the $220? did you pay it before departing the US or when you landed?
3. When you entered the US, was there any issues at the port of entry? any problems with CBP?
Joined: May 2023
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From: Toronto
no, we haven't landed in the US yet. But you have to pay before you go to the border.
I don't think there will be any.
Good luck!
Joined: Jul 2015
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From: Homeless
Can you tell more about when you say you were just about your highest degree?
I have two aviation management certificates but I am still one exam to go and the dissertation before i get my master’s degree.
I was just wondering if that would be enough to apply according to your experience.

Joined: Jan 2005
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From: NA
The requirement is for an ‘advanced degree’ (ie higher than Bachelor’s).
A foreign award also needs to be qualified by a recognised transcript service to be accepted by USCIS. If the degree is from a US University it should be automatically accepted.
Don’t think your other certificates would be accepted, unless a transcript service deems them equivalent number if credits.
Good luck.
A foreign award also needs to be qualified by a recognised transcript service to be accepted by USCIS. If the degree is from a US University it should be automatically accepted.
Don’t think your other certificates would be accepted, unless a transcript service deems them equivalent number if credits.
Good luck.

Joined: Jun 2002
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From: Southern Europe
There is one keyword not to be forgotten in this all subject. The outcome of the process is, at the of the day, 'discretionary'.
Therefore, technically speaking, it can depend on the altimeter setting of the day in Dallas ...
Before going into the advanced rocket sciences certificates, or degrees, it might be appropriate to think of more mundane details.
Me109 mentioned that he was approved. His data mentiones him as being 44 years old. Would say that that's about the limit for a successful outcome. Younger than that is likely to be better. Older than that it might be a no go. Other stuff like being married with children might cause one to be regarded as a responsible candidate. Being single could be a deal breaker.
Therefore, technically speaking, it can depend on the altimeter setting of the day in Dallas ...
Before going into the advanced rocket sciences certificates, or degrees, it might be appropriate to think of more mundane details.
Me109 mentioned that he was approved. His data mentiones him as being 44 years old. Would say that that's about the limit for a successful outcome. Younger than that is likely to be better. Older than that it might be a no go. Other stuff like being married with children might cause one to be regarded as a responsible candidate. Being single could be a deal breaker.
Joined: Jan 2023
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From: EU
Can you tell more about when you say you were just about your highest degree?
I have two aviation management certificates but I am still one exam to go and the dissertation before i get my master’s degree.
I was just wondering if that would be enough to apply according to your experience.
I have two aviation management certificates but I am still one exam to go and the dissertation before i get my master’s degree.
I was just wondering if that would be enough to apply according to your experience.



