Foreign pilots now allowed to apply for a Green Card?
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My motivation for moving to the US is I love the great outdoors there especially in the western states. I want to go hiking, camping and skiing and need a decent job with good time off to support that.
I was looking at Las Vegas, Summerlin as a decent place to set up home. So I need to find a company that has LAS as a junior base, so I can avoid commuting and all that hassle. Is that a reasonable expectation or should I expect to have to commute at any major you join?
I was looking at Las Vegas, Summerlin as a decent place to set up home. So I need to find a company that has LAS as a junior base, so I can avoid commuting and all that hassle. Is that a reasonable expectation or should I expect to have to commute at any major you join?

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Ecam321,
I'm not an expert on recruiting but have certainly heard of 50 y/o people getting hired at legacy/LCC carriers. I don't know what percentage of new hires that might be but it does happen.
I'd advise you to apply to everyone you might even be remotely interested in and see what your options are. I'm not sure a Part 135 operation would give you the time off/schedule flexibility you want. From what I've heard, I think those pilots work pretty hard.
As for bases, Google "airline pilot domicile map" and see who might have a KLAS base.
Good luck.
I'm not an expert on recruiting but have certainly heard of 50 y/o people getting hired at legacy/LCC carriers. I don't know what percentage of new hires that might be but it does happen.
I'd advise you to apply to everyone you might even be remotely interested in and see what your options are. I'm not sure a Part 135 operation would give you the time off/schedule flexibility you want. From what I've heard, I think those pilots work pretty hard.
As for bases, Google "airline pilot domicile map" and see who might have a KLAS base.
Good luck.
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[QUOTE=bafanguy;11370175]Ecam321,
I'm not an expert on recruiting but have certainly heard of 50 y/o people getting hired at legacy/LCC carriers. I don't know what percentage of new hires that might be but it does happen.
I'd advise you to apply to everyone you might even be remotely interested in and see what your options are. I'm not sure a Part 135 operation would give you the time off/schedule flexibility you want. From what I've heard, I think those pilots work pretty hard.
As for bases, Google "airline pilot domicile map" and see who might have a KLAS base.
Thanks Bafanguy
It looks like Frontier have KLAS as a Junior base. But also there are some decent 135 operators in LAS offering a good salary with a 13/17 schedule . Your advice is heeded, I will apply everywhere and see what bites.
I'm not an expert on recruiting but have certainly heard of 50 y/o people getting hired at legacy/LCC carriers. I don't know what percentage of new hires that might be but it does happen.
I'd advise you to apply to everyone you might even be remotely interested in and see what your options are. I'm not sure a Part 135 operation would give you the time off/schedule flexibility you want. From what I've heard, I think those pilots work pretty hard.
As for bases, Google "airline pilot domicile map" and see who might have a KLAS base.
Thanks Bafanguy
It looks like Frontier have KLAS as a Junior base. But also there are some decent 135 operators in LAS offering a good salary with a 13/17 schedule . Your advice is heeded, I will apply everywhere and see what bites.
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From: Pakistan
hi i am 39 years old military pilot from Pakistan. I have more than 17years of flying experience and 5400 flying hrs. I have flown number of multi-engine transport category aircraft. I have 3200 hrs as pilot in command . I am instructor on CN-235 and beech craft king air 350i which is equipped with pro line fusion avionics. I have flown C-130 Hercules, CN-235 Casa, Y-9 Chinese aircraft and King air 350i. I have recently done my initial pilot conversion of king air 350i in Tampa,Florida. Because of proficient performance, I was awarded pro-card on initial sim training of King air 350i. I have also obtained TSA approval from Department of defense. I don’t have ICAO ATPL yet but, i have all the military flying certificates. I have done bachelors (BS) in Aero sciences and Masters in war Studies. With this experience, Can i go for attempt to apply for green card through EB-2 NIW visa. Request your guidance.
Thanks
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Ecam321
There’s a lot of guys getting hired at Legacies 50+ years old. No problem at all. I’m one of them. With your time left until retirement you should aim for a Legacy job. Spirit also has a LAS base and great quality of life. For Legacies, United just opened a base there that also went junior both seats. But you would have to fly the 737 though. From what I’m hearing the commute from LAS to LAX is also doable if you get hired somewhere else and want to stay in LAS. Best of luck.
There’s a lot of guys getting hired at Legacies 50+ years old. No problem at all. I’m one of them. With your time left until retirement you should aim for a Legacy job. Spirit also has a LAS base and great quality of life. For Legacies, United just opened a base there that also went junior both seats. But you would have to fly the 737 though. From what I’m hearing the commute from LAS to LAX is also doable if you get hired somewhere else and want to stay in LAS. Best of luck.
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hi i am 39 years old military pilot from Pakistan. I have more than 17years of flying experience and 5400 flying hrs. I have flown number of multi-engine transport category aircraft. I have 3200 hrs as pilot in command . I am instructor on CN-235 and beech craft king air 350i which is equipped with pro line fusion avionics. I have flown C-130 Hercules, CN-235 Casa, Y-9 Chinese aircraft and King air 350i. I have recently done my initial pilot conversion of king air 350i in Tampa,Florida. Because of proficient performance, I was awarded pro-card on initial sim training of King air 350i. I have also obtained TSA approval from Department of defense. I don’t have ICAO ATPL yet but, i have all the military flying certificates. I have done bachelors (BS) in Aero sciences and Masters in war Studies. With this experience, Can i go for attempt to apply for green card through EB-2 NIW visa. Request your guidance.
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Thanks
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Quite amusing to see accounts with Jan 2023 join date who can't stop recommending Jose Leon Lawyer...
No wonder why. It's actually quite obvious, quote from the Leon Law website: "Leon Law firm has a 100% approval rate in applying for National Interest Waivers (NIW) for experienced pilots seeking positions as commercial airline pilots in the United States."
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No wonder why. It's actually quite obvious, quote from the Leon Law website: "Leon Law firm has a 100% approval rate in applying for National Interest Waivers (NIW) for experienced pilots seeking positions as commercial airline pilots in the United States."
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Quite amusing to see accounts with Jan 2023 join date who can't stop recommending Jose Leon Lawyer...
No wonder why. It's actually quite obvious, quote from the Leon Law website: "Leon Law firm has a 100% approval rate in applying for National Interest Waivers (NIW) for experienced pilots seeking positions as commercial airline pilots in the United States."
LOL!
No wonder why. It's actually quite obvious, quote from the Leon Law website: "Leon Law firm has a 100% approval rate in applying for National Interest Waivers (NIW) for experienced pilots seeking positions as commercial airline pilots in the United States."
LOL!
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From: Jacksonville, Florida
hi i am 39 years old military pilot from Pakistan. I have more than 17years of flying experience and 5400 flying hrs. I have flown number of multi-engine transport category aircraft. I have 3200 hrs as pilot in command . I am instructor on CN-235 and beech craft king air 350i which is equipped with pro line fusion avionics. I have flown C-130 Hercules, CN-235 Casa, Y-9 Chinese aircraft and King air 350i. I have recently done my initial pilot conversion of king air 350i in Tampa,Florida. Because of proficient performance, I was awarded pro-card on initial sim training of King air 350i. I have also obtained TSA approval from Department of defense. I don’t have ICAO ATPL yet but, i have all the military flying certificates. I have done bachelors (BS) in Aero sciences and Masters in war Studies. With this experience, Can i go for attempt to apply for green card through EB-2 NIW visa. Request your guidance.
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You definitely have a competitive background for an EB2-NIW. In fact, your background fits the profile that many US airlines look for. With that said, the standard for the National Interest Waiver looks for exceptional ability in your country of origin. Exceptional ability is defined as a person with “a degree of expertise significantly above that ordinarily encountered” in their particular profession or field of expertise. The key is to show that you are “no ordinary pilot”. After 17 years of aviation military service in Pakistan, as compared to other Pakistani pilots, you should be able to obtain substantial evidence to substantiate your petition.
Good luck with your application.
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Busdriver01,
How would you get the legal ability to live/work in the USA ? That's the critical factor; everything else is just details. I haven't heard of a visa arrangement (like the Aussie E3) that would help you as a Brit but I'm not a subject matter expert by any measure.
Your brief statement of qualifications would seem to indicate you're OK for regionals and maybe even an LCC (heck, maybe even a legacy). Getting an FAA license is an expensive process...unless you can get a regional to pay for it.
The current hiring/upgrade frenzy will certainly come to a halt for any number of reasons so don't count on it as a permanent situation...but that's another subject.
Since contacting airline HR people is so easy these days, I'd email every single one of the regionals and LCCs (contact Spirit for sure) to explain your situation. See what they say or suggest. Or if you're a glutton for punishment, fill out apps to all of them...and email their HR people.
In any event, good luck and let us know what you discover.
How would you get the legal ability to live/work in the USA ? That's the critical factor; everything else is just details. I haven't heard of a visa arrangement (like the Aussie E3) that would help you as a Brit but I'm not a subject matter expert by any measure.
Your brief statement of qualifications would seem to indicate you're OK for regionals and maybe even an LCC (heck, maybe even a legacy). Getting an FAA license is an expensive process...unless you can get a regional to pay for it.
The current hiring/upgrade frenzy will certainly come to a halt for any number of reasons so don't count on it as a permanent situation...but that's another subject.
Since contacting airline HR people is so easy these days, I'd email every single one of the regionals and LCCs (contact Spirit for sure) to explain your situation. See what they say or suggest. Or if you're a glutton for punishment, fill out apps to all of them...and email their HR people.
In any event, good luck and let us know what you discover.

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To my knowledge there is no sponsorship available by any US airline, no matter how desperate or short of pilots they currently are or if its a bottom end regional or high end major. Your experience would of course be recognised but only with the right to work. Without sponsorship or qualifying for a E3 the options are extremely limited, your then down to qualifying only by family/marriage. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but spending hours applying for airlines in the US will ultimately be a waste of time as you will constantly have to answer the same question on the application and even be asked again by the HR. Do you have legal authorization to work in the US without sponsorship?
If the answer to that question is a no, then it is no bueno I am afraid. Go and set the tinder passport to Miami….
If the answer to that question is a no, then it is no bueno I am afraid. Go and set the tinder passport to Miami….
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