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bulldog89 4th March 2025 16:24


Originally Posted by bda321 (Post 11840739)
My estimate of those actually interested from that specific pool would be very little. From my experience, the big bases are populated with a lot of spanish/italian/portuguese pilots. A lot of Brits for sure, but they tend to be local to their base and/or captains/FOs who have set up quite a nice little life for themselves, especially the ones at the regional bases. It won't be easy getting them thinking about elsewhere, not least a job in AMS and the commuting etc.

Totally agree.

daish 4th March 2025 18:13

The rush seems to be high when I look at how difficult it seems to be to get an assessment invitation…

richpea 4th March 2025 22:46


Originally Posted by bda321 (Post 11840739)
My estimate of those actually interested from that specific pool would be very little. From my experience, the big bases are populated with a lot of spanish/italian/portuguese pilots. A lot of Brits for sure, but they tend to be local to their base and/or captains/FOs who have set up quite a nice little life for themselves, especially the ones at the regional bases. It won't be easy getting them thinking about elsewhere, not least a job in AMS and the commuting etc.

Was just my POV as a person from said pool... I'd love to be able to apply.

PENKO 5th March 2025 08:14


Originally Posted by richpea (Post 11840968)
Was just my POV as a person from said pool... I'd love to be able to apply.

And hopefully you get the chance to succeed! It's a great career if you can fully commit yourself to a life in the Netherlands til retirement and beyond. Just curious of your POV: if you get the chance to fly for KLM, would you opt to relocate to the Netherlands, or would you rather commute?

richpea 5th March 2025 14:04


Originally Posted by PENKO (Post 11841134)
And hopefully you get the chance to succeed! It's a great career if you can fully commit yourself to a life in the Netherlands til retirement and beyond. Just curious of your POV: if you get the chance to fly for KLM, would you opt to relocate to the Netherlands, or would you rather commute?

100% would relocate.

BRNL 9th March 2025 12:43

Any news on the assessments? Are they getting a good number of qualified candidates?

And if someone has sent an email to the Pilot Recruitment, do you know if they usually reply to it?

SegAfredo 9th March 2025 12:46

I know of some people that were invited for assessment (online assessment). I applied mid Jan and other than the “it might be a while” e-mail I have had not news since.

pedrothepilot 11th March 2025 12:22

Age 36, 4000 hours on A320 more than 1000 PIC on A320 flying at a LOCO. It feels like this would be somewhat of a career restart for me, but I still find it very appealing. The main appeal is flying for a real company with a propper pension, great travel benefits, and eventually great pay, although it seems it would take me some time to get back to my current pay level. Anyone else in the same position or am I crazy?


SegAfredo 11th March 2025 12:24

Similar position Pedro, only a tad younger but not massively and a few more hours. I think it depends on your long term aspirations. That is if we even get called for selection…

pedrothepilot 11th March 2025 12:59

Well, I've got to apply first :D. Long term, I just want to have good work life balance, and have a reliable pension to support me in my older years. But I don't know, how late is too late to join? Of course that is a very subjective.

BRNL 11th March 2025 14:16


Originally Posted by pedrothepilot (Post 11845295)
Age 36, 4000 hours on A320 more than 1000 PIC on A320 flying at a LOCO. It feels like this would be somewhat of a career restart for me, but I still find it very appealing. The main appeal is flying for a real company with a propper pension, great travel benefits, and eventually great pay, although it seems it would take me some time to get back to my current pay level. Anyone else in the same position or am I crazy?


Welcome to the club, my friend!

I fly currently at AA in my 3rd year in the company, 39 years old, 7.200 flight hours on the 737ng/max and A32F (FO hours only) and KLM is a dream since I was a kid.

I’m super willing to jump boats and start everything all over in Europe and at KLM. Never imagined this opportunity could come up one day for people who don’t speak Dutch. Although I don’t have the Easa licence yet, just the European passport, I applied anyway.

SaulGoodman 12th March 2025 09:30


Originally Posted by BRNL (Post 11845380)
Welcome to the club, my friend!

I fly currently at AA in my 3rd year in the company, 39 years old, 7.200 flight hours on the 737ng/max and A32F (FO hours only) and KLM is a dream since I was a kid.

I’m super willing to jump boats and start everything all over in Europe and at KLM. Never imagined this opportunity could come up one day for people who don’t speak Dutch. Although I don’t have the Easa licence yet, just the European passport, I applied anyway.

Why on earth would someone flying for American legacy move to a European carrier?



VariablePitchP 12th March 2025 10:18


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 11846005)
Why on earth would someone flying for American legacy move to a European carrier?

Grass is always greener

BRNL 12th March 2025 16:23


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 11846005)
Why on earth would someone flying for American legacy move to a European carrier?

I’m quite sure you never lived in America.

besides from money, there’s nothing better in America compared to Europe, specially Netherlands.

dirk85 12th March 2025 17:04

You could pay me double what KLM pay, and I still would not live in the Netherlands, if given the choice to live anywhere else in Europe.

BRNL 12th March 2025 17:23


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 11846363)
You could pay me double what KLM pay, and I still would not live in the Netherlands, if given the choice to live anywhere else in Europe.

Really? Why?

I think it is very personal.

Storsdb 12th March 2025 17:46


Originally Posted by pedrothepilot (Post 11845295)
Age 36, 4000 hours on A320 more than 1000 PIC on A320 flying at a LOCO. It feels like this would be somewhat of a career restart for me, but I still find it very appealing. The main appeal is flying for a real company with a propper pension, great travel benefits, and eventually great pay, although it seems it would take me some time to get back to my current pay level. Anyone else in the same position or am I crazy?

35 years old here, flying as a captain for a northern legacy. Over 7000 hrs, and 1100hrs pic on 320 and 737, currently on 320. I have applied and will join if I get the opportunity. Will most likely commute, but most definitely learn Dutch.

dirk85 12th March 2025 20:12


Originally Posted by BRNL (Post 11846375)
Really? Why?

I think it is very personal.

Absolutely, very personal. I am with you that living in the US might not be for everyone, I would also choose Europe, for less money.

I just dont like the Netherlands, but it’s just my personal feeling.
The weather is atrocious, housing is too expensive, the taxation is insane (read about the wealth tax, not even in the Soviet Union they had that), land flat like a pancake, people not the friendliest (compared to other places at least).
And that’s just on top of my head.

I have no doubt KLM is a great company, but since commuting is not an option, and I am very happy to live where I live, I’ll leave it to someone else.
Would I apply if they had a base in my country?
Maybe, even if it would take many years to reach my current salary.
We have a lot of Dutch Captains in my company, also commuters, and as far as I know very few if no one has applied in the last few years.

Newhairdo 12th March 2025 23:14


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 11846005)
Why on earth would someone flying for American legacy move to a European carrier?

Because Mr Orange running the 💩show over there, is probably the best reason

BRNL 13th March 2025 03:10


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 11846454)
Absolutely, very personal. I am with you that living in the US might not be for everyone, I would also choose Europe, for less money.

I just dont like the Netherlands, but it’s just my personal feeling.
The weather is atrocious, housing is too expensive, the taxation is insane (read about the wealth tax, not even in the Soviet Union they had that), land flat like a pancake, people not the friendliest (compared to other places at least).
And that’s just on top of my head.

I have no doubt KLM is a great company, but since commuting is not an option, and I am very happy to live where I live, I’ll leave it to someone else.
Would I apply if they had a base in my country?
Maybe, even if it would take many years to reach my current salary.
We have a lot of Dutch Captains in my company, also commuters, and as far as I know very few if no one has applied in the last few years.


I get your point and I agree somewhat, but as I said, the Usa besides from money is no bueno. Europe is way ahead in many aspects. Believe me.

Im not sure if people really qualified are applying there, I mean, with a great experience. All I heard is they don’t have many high qual apps.

Anyhow, I doubt they will call me just with my European passport and without Easa licence, but let’s see!

cheers!!


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