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Glorified_Taxi 19th April 2023 23:37


Originally Posted by flyingtrain (Post 11422039)
That's great, thanks RPat01.
Has anyone else had any different questions?

After my own interview, my colleagues and I who applied all had the same 3 questions (5 of us spread 3 weeks apart). Most recent did his a couple of days ago - likely it won’t change as there’s another interview for Day 1 assessment at Waterside.

BusDr1ver 20th April 2023 22:47

Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone could provide some feedback regarding the CityFlyer online interview. I understand that they have only recently started recruitment so there isn't much information available online, but any insights would be greatly appreciated.

I assume that the questions might be similar to those asked in the EuroFlyer interviews, but I would love to hear from anyone (or knows of someone) who has recently gone through the process.

Thank you!

CVividasku 21st April 2023 16:50

Hello,
Side question about British Airways :
Is it allowed for British Airways ground staff to occupy a cockpit jumpseat while staff travelling ?

bylgw 21st April 2023 16:58

No, it is not.

Phantom4 21st April 2023 17:01

Not allowed.

monkey.tennis 22nd April 2023 14:58


Originally Posted by CVividasku (Post 11423689)
Hello,
Side question about British Airways :
Is it allowed for British Airways ground staff to occupy a cockpit jumpseat while staff travelling ?

only if travelling on company business when no seat available in the cabin. Not allowed on leisure travel.

CVividasku 25th April 2023 22:29

I took a BA flight on a cabin jumpseat (the crew was thanked many times), and apparently even the captain's family cannot occupy a cockpit jumpseat, but pilots on leisure travel can.
Can cabin crew do so as well ?
Being from another airline I'm not allowed either, so if as many people as possible were allowed, they would free up a potentiel cabin jumpseat for me.

VariablePitchP 26th April 2023 00:23


Originally Posted by CVividasku (Post 11425923)
I took a BA flight on a cabin jumpseat (the crew was thanked many times), and apparently even the captain's family cannot occupy a cockpit jumpseat, but pilots on leisure travel can.
Can cabin crew do so as well ?
Being from another airline I'm not allowed either, so if as many people as possible were allowed, they would free up a potentiel cabin jumpseat for me.

Why does bring the captain’s family make any difference? Red herring.

UK law is pretty clear - You hold an airside pass as operating crew, have been vetted, and have access to jumpseats. Or you don’t.

Stricter than the continent, absolutely, but them’s the rules.

RJ100 26th April 2023 09:55

From what I understand. The interview for BA Cityflyer is now very similar to that of BA.

ToCatLady 28th April 2023 09:34

Any idea on how long you can expect to be in the Hold Pool for? Are courses happening regular as I believe there’s a huge training capacity issue now.

Alrosa 28th April 2023 09:51


Originally Posted by ToCatLady (Post 11426992)
Any idea on how long you can expect to be in the Hold Pool for? Are courses happening regular as I believe there’s a huge training capacity issue now.

Difficult to say. I have friends who passed sim assessments in Jan/Feb this year and were told not to expect to be coursed until second half of this year due to “training capacity” -
only to be called for TRs in 3 months or less.

From what I understand, folk are being sent off to L3 to do the TR, and then further sims at BA flight training prior to being released for line training.

Hopefully someone might give you a better idea, but keep an open mind. If you’re already TR’d on the ‘bus then I haven’t the foggiest.


Max Angle 28th April 2023 20:35


but pilots on leisure travel can
Pilots on leisure travel CAN'T


Confusious 28th April 2023 20:48


Originally Posted by Max Angle (Post 11427296)
Pilots on leisure travel CAN'T

100% correct Max Angle!

Speed_Trim_Fail 28th April 2023 21:28

Am I the only one slightly confused as to why FD access policy is on a DEP thread?

I mean it’s better than seniority again :}

Confusious 28th April 2023 21:43


Originally Posted by Speed_Trim_Fail (Post 11427319)
Am I the only one slightly confused as to why FD access policy is on a DEP thread?

I mean it’s better than seniority again :}

Probably not as wannabe DEPs are most likely soaking up opinions from the inside before they take the leap of faith. := :)

3Greens 28th April 2023 22:00


Originally Posted by Max Angle (Post 11427296)
Pilots on leisure travel CAN'T

Completely incorrect. Suggest you read exactly what it says in OMa. Pilots on leisure travel most certainly CAN. If certain criteria are met…it’s all there in the BA OMa
the exact wording is no accident; i hope those above that think leisure FD access is a no-no arent current BA Captains…

Plastic787 6th May 2023 10:13


Originally Posted by 3Greens (Post 11427331)
Completely incorrect. Suggest you read exactly what it says in OMa. Pilots on leisure travel most certainly CAN. If certain criteria are met…it’s all there in the BA OMa
the exact wording is no accident; i hope those above that think leisure FD access is a no-no arent current BA Captains…

3Greens ever so sadly you meet some on the line that are. It seems to be the majority with this POV (but not exclusively) are ex Midland captains. I’ve heard numerous references from them to the idea that for BA pilots or cabin crew to travel on a FD JS they must be commuting to or from the station involved, which is stated absolutely nowhere in OM-A operating policy. As you have alluded to, the wording in OM-A has clearly been deliberately chosen so as to be permissive, not the other way around.

The story where a 787 Captain was refused access to a FD JS coming back to work after finishing a holiday in LCA (operating the next day) takes the cake. He was travelling entirely within the scope of the wording in OM-A but was denied by the operating skipper as he “doesn’t live in Larnaca”. I’d like to think if I’d been the FO involved on that flight I’d have told my Captain I was prepared to offload myself unless they could give a clear justification why they were deviating from company policy written in OM-A. It’s absolutely infuriating when people make up their own rules which aren’t written anywhere but even more so when it totally screws a colleague over for no good reason.

Confusious 6th May 2023 16:34


Originally Posted by Plastic787 (Post 11430922)
3Greens ever so sadly you meet some on the line that are. It seems to be the majority with this POV (but not exclusively) are ex Midland captains. I’ve heard numerous references from them to the idea that for BA pilots or cabin crew to travel on a FD JS they must be commuting to or from the station involved, which is stated absolutely nowhere in OM-A operating policy. As you have alluded to, the wording in OM-A has clearly been deliberately chosen so as to be permissive, not the other way around.

The story where a 787 Captain was refused access to a FD JS coming back to work after finishing a holiday in LCA (operating the next day) takes the cake. He was travelling entirely within the scope of the wording in OM-A but was denied by the operating skipper as he “doesn’t live in Larnaca”. I’d like to think if I’d been the FO involved on that flight I’d have told my Captain I was prepared to offload myself unless they could give a clear justification why they were deviating from company policy written in OM-A. It’s absolutely infuriating when people make up their own rules which aren’t written anywhere but even more so when it totally screws a colleague over for no good reason.

Offload yourself, are you serious? Regardless of the rules is it not the Captain's decision at the end of the day?

Plastic787 6th May 2023 17:07


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11431089)
Offload yourself, are you serious? Regardless of the rules is it not the Captain's decision at the end of the day?

Yes I am deadly serious, it’s a team game. Help out your colleagues, it’s not difficult. Second of all the captain in question was risking a cancellation to the operation (especially in the current climate) the following day with his petty and unmalleable misinterpretation of OM-A operating policy, whether deliberate or not. If I can’t trust you to exercise pragmatic judgement and interpret company policy to a simple and positive conclusion with such a simple issue like that I cannot trust your judgement elsewhere and therefore I’m not flying with you. End of story.

thetimesreader84 7th May 2023 11:33


Originally Posted by Plastic787 (Post 11431103)
Yes I am deadly serious, it’s a team game. Help out your colleagues, it’s not difficult. Second of all the captain in question was risking a cancellation to the operation (especially in the current climate) the following day with his petty and unmalleable misinterpretation of OM-A operating policy, whether deliberate or not. If I can’t trust you to exercise pragmatic judgement and interpret company policy to a simple and positive conclusion with such a simple issue like that I cannot trust your judgement elsewhere and therefore I’m not flying with you. End of story.

And how do you think the subsequent chat with Flt OPS management would go?

Edit to Add: our manuals are also pretty explicit as to who's responsible for getting back in time to report for your next duty, and it's not the operating captain on the oversold flight you're trying to jumpseat on.


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