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Confusious 27th January 2023 20:50


Originally Posted by Raph737 (Post 11375316)
I wonder how many are swimming and if LHR direct entry will reopen soon…anyone on the inside hear anything?
Considering the T&C’s Jet2 and TUI offer, they definitely need to up the financial package for EF or offer a fast upgrade option there.

Apologies if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the carrots the possibility to bid into LHR, albeit further down the line?

Raph737 27th January 2023 21:22


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11375318)
Apologies if I'm wrong, but isn't one of the carrots the possibility to bid into LHR, albeit further down the line?

You are absolutely right! But I’m not sure how is that going to work having a “parallel” operation and one master seniority list. I don’t know if it will be any different that the BA main + BACF deal. They can make these promises but historically they don’t keep them or there are caveats.

The package at EF is poor, should there be shortages at LHR they may be reluctant on transferring from EF as it’s difficult to recruit for EF. It happened the same at BACF so I’m rather sceptical. I could be wrong, but the fact that they needed roadshows at LTN(snatching Wizz and Ezy crew?)and the help from recruitment agencies (not cheap) suggests there aren’t enough applicants for EF.

They should open direct entry at LHR before any consideration in allowing transfers. Speculation I know, but that’s my two cents as an observer.

I think anyone who has the expectation that they are transferring to LHR after the fleet freeze in five years, don’t know what BA is about unfortunately.


Confusious 27th January 2023 21:58


Originally Posted by Raph737 (Post 11375341)
You are absolutely right! But I’m not sure how is that going to work having a “parallel” operation and one master seniority list. I don’t know if it will be any different that the BA main + BACF deal. They can make these promises but historically they don’t keep them or there are caveats.

The package at EF is poor, should there be shortages at LHR they may be reluctant on transferring from EF as it’s difficult to recruit for EF. It happened the same at BACF so I’m rather sceptical. I could be wrong, but the fact that they needed roadshows at LTN(snatching Wizz and Ezy crew?)and the help from recruitment agencies (not cheap) suggests there aren’t enough applicants for EF.

They should open direct entry at LHR before any consideration in allowing transfers. Speculation I know, but that’s my two cents as an observer.

I think anyone who has the expectation that they are transferring to LHR after the fleet freeze in five years, don’t know what BA is about unfortunately.

Valid points about BA changing the goalposts with Mainline/BACF. I guess it all hinges on whether anything is written into the EF contract either directly or implied regarding the reliability of BA's promises.

Snr 28th January 2023 04:02


Originally Posted by Alrosa (Post 11375257)
I suspect if not TR on the A32x, you’d be looking at a TR course no earlier than summer for LHR. Don’t hold me to that though. Once confirmed in the hold pool a kind soul might give you a slightly better idea. My understanding is if you only applied to LHR and didn’t tick yes to LGW, you won’t be offered LGW/EF.

Same advice I’d give to anyone applying for any other airline in the U.K. - don’t be handing in notices or making plans until you have a contract in your hand with a start date; expect a long and drawn out recruitment process with large gaps between applying, assessments and courses.

The only exception I can think of is Ryanair U.K. that want you on the line asap, and will process you very quickly. But this isn’t about them.

Not very long and drawn out for me - between assessment day in Dec, Sim, and phone call with the job offer was a total of 14 days. Offered a course iaw my 3 month notice. Everyone's experience will be different, but it happened a lot quicker than I was expecting.

Alrosa 28th January 2023 09:11


Originally Posted by Snr (Post 11375481)
Not very long and drawn out for me - between assessment day in Dec, Sim, and phone call with the job offer was a total of 14 days. Offered a course iaw my 3 month notice. Everyone's experience will be different, but it happened a lot quicker than I was expecting.

I should have perhaps made it clearer that individuals’ experiences may vary. Some people have indeed moved through the BA assessment stages quite quickly.

I guess my underlying point was that things can and have changed very quickly at BA (sometimes overnight and with little warning) so this should be borne in mind by anyone applying or about to join.

Other than that, I think they’re a good company to work for provided the arrangements suit. It doesn’t suit all obviously.







airspeed75 28th January 2023 11:32

I wonder if they'll start prioritising FlyBe people now? I would have thought to do so would be fairer given they're out a job whereas others can wait it out at their current airlines.

Confusious 28th January 2023 11:37


Originally Posted by airspeed75 (Post 11375710)
I wonder if they'll start prioritising FlyBe people now? I would have thought to do so would be fairer given they're out a job whereas others can wait it out at their current airlines.

Doubt it very much as they'll still prioritise those who they consider are the best fit. Hope I'm wrong though!

White Van Driver 28th January 2023 14:57


Originally Posted by airspeed75 (Post 11375710)
I wonder if they'll start prioritising FlyBe people now? I would have thought to do so would be fairer given they're out a job whereas others can wait it out at their current airlines.

this was a contentious issue when virgin did a similar thing in the fallout of Monarch IIRC.

At the end of the day, BA will do whatever suits them, just as VS did in that case. I don't believe the perceived "fairness" to those who don't yet have a contract will come into it.

airspeed75 28th January 2023 16:44


Originally Posted by White Van Driver (Post 11375807)
this was a contentious issue when virgin did a similar thing in the fallout of Monarch IIRC.

At the end of the day, BA will do whatever suits them, just as VS did in that case. I don't believe the perceived "fairness" to those who don't yet have a contract will come into it.

Yes this is true, and in hindsight perhaps it's fair enough that those already in the pool are given equal weighting.

V1VRV2VF 7th February 2023 11:45

Hey all

I've recently been told I was successful for A320 DEP NTR LHR hold pool... this was perhaps a couple of weeks ago. Just wondered if anyone knows how long it takes these days to get a date? Anyone know anyone who has had a call recently?

Thanks

Confusious 7th February 2023 21:47

BA Cityflyer to be solf off
 
​​Heard a very strong rumour today that KLM are in negotiations with IAG to buy Cityflyer. Anyone else heard of it yet?

V1VRV2VF 7th February 2023 22:09


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11381887)
​​Heard a very strong rumour today that KLM are in negotiations with IAG to buy Cityflyer. Anyone else heard of it yet?

Why would they get rid of cityhopper only to buy cityflyer?

Aren't they supposedly interested in the flybe slots too?

Would this affect BA DEP recruitment or something? Or is this suited to another thread...

Confusious 7th February 2023 22:28


Originally Posted by V1VRV2VF (Post 11381905)
Why would they get rid of cityhopper only to buy cityflyer?

Aren't they supposedly interested in the flybe slots too?

Would this affect BA DEP recruitment or something? Or is this suited to another thread...

I think it's more a case of expanding rather than getting rid.
Yes, Flybe slots as well.
Not sure about affect on BA recruitment and couldn't find a more suitable thread to post it.

PPRuNeUser134364 8th February 2023 19:54


Originally Posted by V1VRV2VF (Post 11381584)
Hey all

I've recently been told I was successful for A320 DEP NTR LHR hold pool... this was perhaps a couple of weeks ago. Just wondered if anyone knows how long it takes these days to get a date? Anyone know anyone who has had a call recently?

Thanks

I've been in the pool since pre-covid (i.e. several years) and still no start date.

Confusious 8th February 2023 19:56


Originally Posted by SAR Bloke (Post 11382443)
I've been in the pool since pre-covid (i.e. several years) and still no start date.

That's appalling. Hope you get some positive news soon.

V1VRV2VF 8th February 2023 19:59


Originally Posted by SAR Bloke (Post 11382443)
I've been in the pool since pre-covid (i.e. several years) and still no start date.

I know folk who were in that pool and were told to reapply and begin the process again post covid.

Have you made contact to check that isn't the case for you too?

A friend of mine lately did the process and got a call 5 days later with a start date...might be worth looking into if I were you.

Confusious 8th February 2023 20:34


Originally Posted by V1VRV2VF (Post 11382449)
I know folk who were in that pool and were told to reapply and begin the process again post covid.

Have you made contact to check that isn't the case for you too?

A friend of mine lately did the process and got a call 5 days later with a start date...might be worth looking into if I were you.

How frustratingly inconsistent. For someone to have to go through all that malarkey again must be somewhat demotivating.

PPRuNeUser134364 8th February 2023 20:38


Originally Posted by V1VRV2VF (Post 11382449)
I know folk who were in that pool and were told to reapply and begin the process again post covid.

Have you made contact to check that isn't the case for you too?

A friend of mine lately did the process and got a call 5 days later with a start date...might be worth looking into if I were you.

Yes, I went through that and I'm still in the pool. We didn't need to go through the whole process again, just 'reactivate' our pool status.

V1VRV2VF 9th February 2023 07:44


Originally Posted by SAR Bloke (Post 11382474)
Yes, I went through that and I'm still in the pool. We didn't need to go through the whole process again, just 'reactivate' our pool status.

Have you asked them for an estimated start date? I've just heard another person who was successful laat week get a date... Are you currently flying?!

airspeed75 9th February 2023 10:24


Originally Posted by SAR Bloke (Post 11382474)
Yes, I went through that and I'm still in the pool. We didn't need to go through the whole process again, just 'reactivate' our pool status.

That's odd. Are you current?! There's definitely people being called recently.


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