Originally Posted by menekse (Post 11479986)

Hold a current UK Class One Medical and United Kingdom or European Union Flight Crew License (ATPL) issued by the UK CAA at the date of joining
That's from Virgin webpage

Originally Posted by rotorwills (Post 11480346)

Only need to read the front pages of UK newspapers to discover why Virgin are recruiting. Balpa attempting to negotiate layovers etc. Not the best gig in UK by a long way.

Originally Posted by Birdbirdbirdstheword (Post 11480422)

Something that I belive BA tried, but got pilloried in the press for, and subsequently dropped...
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Originally Posted by Seosan (Post 11480531)

Don’t think any of the Nigels who were sacked then given a £14k pay decrease, endlessly told there were no slots at LHR for them whilst the company recruited externals into the positions would necessarily agree with you there. Although the corruption and nepotism in the BA CC is a different story entirely.

Originally Posted by NAT Zulu (Post 11480343)

...don't forget it also says that they will sponsor a four year residence visa. One has to ask why "the best gig in the UK" would need to do this, no? Particulary if there are vastly qualified and experienced pilots in the UK still available.....some even with decades of prior service at the actual carrier?!?!?

Originally Posted by menekse (Post 11480804)

Visa sponsorship is useless if I don't have an ATPL issued by the UK CAA, that's what they ask

Originally Posted by Birdbirdbirdstheword (Post 11480422)

There are many, many other things that happened that have now rendered VS the least attractive gig in the UK, by a considerable margin. A lot of which will, no doubt, be revealed during the court cases scheduled for next year...

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Originally Posted by NAT Zulu (Post 11476553)

...to be brutally honest, I don't think the Virgin management have opened this avenue up for EU pilots in order to improve terms and conditions at Virgin in the future! Lets not politik this situation when there is no need!

The fact is, in my very humble opinion, that VAA is very definately not the employer of choice that it once was. It can't attract UK pilots because of this, and is so forced to look elsewhere. It really is as simple as that.

I feel fairly qualified to state the above as a long serving ex-VAA Captain who was unceremoniously made redundant out of seniority during their "shake up" of terms and conditions to retrograde permanent new ones that are quoted above in this thread. There are a significant number of us (most with decades of service dutifully done to get that LH command at the "best gig in UK") that are taking them to court for all sorts of unsavoury discriminative reasons. The six week hearing starts in February.

Even their "star" instagram sensation TRE is off to the High Court shortly to allegedly face accusations of some pretty nasty career-ending defamations made to bosses of colleagues.

They made their bed with a very oportunistic response to Covid that was also very much an outlier compared to other airlines at the time.

....it is certainly worth thinking if you want to lie in that particular bed?

As for working out your time to command etc - well, just factor in that it counts for NOTHING at Virgin when the axe falls. Our stories are true testament to that.

Originally Posted by Lordflasheart (Post 11479634)

I think you may have misunderstood -

I think Nat meant - Trade Union Reps were top of management's wish-list of undesirables and trouble-makers who were not wanted back - so they had to 'fail' their re-hiring interviews. If true - thats a black-list offence under labour relations law.

There's probably a long queue of Subject Access Requests as a result - https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/yo...-of-your-data/ - while the shredding department works overtime.

Our Virgin mate wasn't in the pub last night - seems he got clobbered for an extra trip.

LFH

Originally Posted by Scand320 (Post 11507250)

Originally Posted by numichem (Post 11515144)

Hello everyone,

Does anybody have the latest salary and/or earning figures for VA SFOs in 2023? Also, I hear that the command line is very long there >5years. Can anyone with the inside knowledge share what procedures the company has for SFOs upgrade?

Cheers,