Alis Cargo Italy

Thank you for the replies guys, definitely food for thought. I was under the impression that things had improved at Wizz, better salaries, schedules, basing options etc.

Clearly I’m mistaken on this so thank you for the input. Yes commuting is an option which I do now but from Australia to wherever any of our planes may be anywhere in the world and it gets tiring real fast. 17 on and 13 off but I’m permanently jet lagged and as we fly a heavy crew always (4 pilots) we really struggle to get our take off and landings in due to long sectors and always planning around who is about to expire on their 3 take off and landings every 3 months.

On the plus side I literally fly all over the world and do get to see a lot. However there is something to be said for short haul flying which makes it better in my opinion and that is getting off the plane every couple hours, even if it’s for 10 min just to stretch your legs and get some fresh air. Plus your skills stay sharper due to flying a lot in terms of take off and approaches and landings.

Plus going home after work to see your family is nice if you have kids like me. I’m trying for Cargolux as well as they seem to be good with decent schedules but hard to get into and no hiring going on at present.

Not sure what Easyjet is like but Ryanair is a definite no. If anybody else has any good advice I’m all ears, thanks again for the input.

So, I would rate Ryanair above wizz personally, just based on PPrune. Do think Ryan is home every night and 5-4-5-3 or something like that schedule CMIIAW. Have friends at Eazy that are pretty happy. But I would not try to commute in Europe so base would definitely be important. Infrastructure just not like the US for that. Worked there for years, granted a decade ago, but really doubt anything has gotten better.
I commuted from the US and while tolerable on a 10-5 schedule it wasn't awesome, and I am sure as we get older it doesn't get easier. Where are you now? And I have people at cargolux if you need an in or info. Don't think you will ever make as much there as here, and consider how social security would be affected if you leave the US. And you would still have to file for taxes in the us, but married you would be exempt for the first $200K. Lots of things I learned the hard (=spelling:"expensive") way ...

Lots of Wizz bashing on here. Go in with your eyes open and you won’t then be disappointed.

Wizz has improved the salary and the offer to the pilots. bonus recently paid. Roster has also improved and further choices (incl part time option) are coming early next year. Tbh if you are happy with the location of the base then there is not much between Wizz and EasyJet. Both have their negatives, don’t get me wrong there are improvements to be made for sure.

plus as pilots are we ever really happy with the company 🤔

Wizz training is of a high standard with most of the simulator instructors being freelance and independent, in the U.K. anyway they are training EasyJet pilots as well. Two sector days are the norm being home every night. They do work you hard sometimes so I would suggest max 30min commute to the airport. Horses for courses.

happy flying guys.

Horses for courses indeed, it wasn't for this one. If you're happy with it, I'm happy for you.

Norwegian also recently reopened recruitment!
one of the best airline to work with! The best you can find apart the majors!

Again...
Alis Cargo has been recently purchased by MSC which is huge and powerful group.
They announced huge expansion plan.

good luck

If you have some time before apply for united. Bid for the 777/787 as FO as quickly as possible and commute through frankfurt. Plenty of planes going direct daily there and one or two flights a day from FRA to SKP with good pay and decent time off could work for you.

hello people,

Do you know how I can apply for Wizz pilot selection day on Budapest at 4 of September? or any relevant information for the event ??

THANKS

one thing i found out too late is JOC is not mandatory even though they state it as a requirement on their assessment day checklist

​​​​​​At which ATO in the UK?

How much can I expect to earn as Y1 Captain?

Is basic still at €45000?

In an average year how much is total variable pay?

I’ve heard that wizz also contribute towards your tax bill in some bases? Ie they pay an extra gross amount on your salary.

TIA

You got it wrong. In Italy an expatriate you are entitled to be taxed only 30% (10% in South Italy) on your salary for a period of 5 years, but to be honest it is not 100% clear whether foreigners are entitled to it or not. The tax man may knock on your door one day.

Actually, the whole thing is not crystal clear for all of crew members working on aircraft and ships.

Are they offering italian bases for new joiners?

I hope not! There are waiting lists for Italian bases.

Does anyone know if EU passport is a strict requirement?

It's written right in application page:
Unrestricted right to live and work in the EU orAlbania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Georgia, Moldova, North Macedonia, Russia, Serbia, Ukraine, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom


OR

Hi guys,
Maybe this question has been posted many times, sorry to bother you again.
I will go soon for a Wizz assessments, and despite I know the demands of pilot is high (at least this is what I heard from wizz pilot), I would like to ask you how are the pass rates looking like at this time, and if I will be successful which are the most probable bases ?

Thank you I appreciate your replies.

Is this an accurate salary estimate? GBP150k + for year 1 captains? If so, Wizz seems to have upped their pay significantly. Are Easy, Ryanair, Jet2, etc. similar?

https://www.flightdeckfriend.com/why...r-wizz-air-uk/

Possibly, depends on how much you fly. If you work max hours and sell some off days you can probably earn that year 1.

the previous monthly average was basic 5000GBP 40K km per month so that would be approx ~4700GBP and 30 sectors so ~2000GBP

so 140k gross for a year 1 captain and 5000 increase in base every 1000 hours in the operation. (It stops at 5000-10000 hours)

the money keeps going up but people keep leaving because the job is still crap in most respects.

Very low stability in rosters with many changes, they’ll expect you to go into discretion and you’ll spend your nights flying TLV, SSH, AMM return sectors on 14 hour days.

if you’re in the UK, go to J2or EZ over WUK.

Wizzair update information 2023
 

Any news about this new flexible rosters , 15 on/15 off , signing bonus and so on? It seems like they are a pretty desperate to get pilots, is there any reliable source who can provide information what the current situation is in Wizzair and how much are salary with this new offers and which are those sekected bases they mentionon their ads?

no such a roster in WZZ.

Plenty of fancy magenta presentations on expected salary, roster and basing to lure in candidates.

Reality check is needed however: granted some of the pilots already on property are seeing improvements but the majority is still on base waitlists, their rosters are messed up due to allocated out of base flying and constantly missing their commute as delays and roster changes are ops normal atm.

Things won't change until all the perks listed on these magenta headed presentations make their way into actual employment contracts. Until then these ppt-s, and pdf-s are the easiest things to retract or to make irrelevant due to operational needs.

are you Captain or FO?
Plenty of cadets that will sit and wait until next year to start.
Experienced FOs are enough at the moment.
DECs are still needed.

Most of these new roster options will be available from next year only. 15/15 only in the least popular bases (Georgia, Albania, Romania). Bonus - again, only for committing to stay for 3 years in those unpopular bases.

Some facts
 

A lot of chit chat and rumors in this thread, but not valiable information.Is there anyone inside wizzair, who can really tell what the current situation is, what are the salariea for FO, time to command and how is working with these new flexible rosters, Im very curious about that 15 days on 15 off. Can someone bring some light to this thread. Thanks in advance

All above is the current situation.

Hi Guys,

I applied and received an assessment date in December.

But it seems the email address is a "No reply/No return" address. I had intended to request some more info from them once they had accepted my application.

For example, I am only interested to attend if the 15/15 roster is on the table, and with that, I would need to know the salary in say Romania.

Also for Non Type Rated Captains, are they going to cover the cost of the TR, or how does that work?

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

OB

As far as I know, it's a 3 years bond.

That you pay back over the 3 years. So really it’s a 3 year long deduction in salary.

Hi,

Does anyone know if I could apply for wizz air with a Canadian passport? This is what I found on the Internet: Citizens of the United States, Australia, Canada, Israel, Japan, New Zealand, and Switzerland, as well as citizens within the EU, do not need to apply for a work visa for Europe. However, upon arrival in the country where they will be working, they do need to apply for a residence and work permit.

I reckon you would be eligible for work only in Albania, but still it would be a headache for them because they need their crew to be able to go out of base without any issues.
Wizz Air Abu Dhabi should not be an issue.

thank you! Do you know if I could reach them and ask about the passport issue? I am currently in Canada and there is no open day here.

I see them making posts on LinkedIn sometimes. Maybe try to post your question under their posts.

They held open days in South America, but that part of the world is full of people that have Spanish and Italian heritage and thus have Spanish and Italian passports. Others were recruited for Wizz Air Abu Dhabi.

From wizz
 

So coming back to pprune after longtime and skipped a lot pages as its crazy time consuming.
almost 2 years in the company now. And had ups and downs for me but overall pretty happy with Wzz although I understand that grass could be greener like everywhere else.

Really not other crazy options around better except your own country’s major or go to Ezy at your homebase.
In an Eu market where ryr charging 30-40k for type rating and/or expensive aps mcc and then no salary till base teaining, no yearly bonus despite billions profit, crew meals, tightening the belt over flight crew to the max. Im quite happy my only consern is our local GH is payed peanuts and we have gpu or bus delayed.
1,5 years in company in 2 years upgrade if I work hard.
Im also lucky where Im based we dont have double tax issues and My net local contract salary as a junior Fo with bond payment deducted etc has never been less than 3.2k most had 3.7k. (SFO goes around 4.5k-5-5k) net values…
other jfo friends in otherbases remain around 2.5k depending on the flying and/or contract. Im only telling my personal situation.

Regarding fatigue, you are around 900h/year like most lowcost. FOs are okay but Captains are still going 90-100h/month but I fly with more and more happy captains with reverse roster, I fly with one and come back with the other. So those magenta presentations are slowly being implemented and actually makes a the difference.

the unhappy people are right because their situation is different. I have no kids or wife at home. So I settled in my base. But if you have kids in west where you dont have direct wizz flight, you can suffer.

I realized only unhappy people (sometimes rightfully) make their way to pprune and I wanted to be an exception.

Anyway there is no company in eu other than some legacies where you sign the contract and pack your bag, print your boarding pass received from company, show up at TR location where a company driver takes you to company booked hotel with some training salary dropping since day one and at 4th year upgrade perspectives.

overall good compay for my profile.

cheers

Agree with papalovesjumbo .

I was fired from wizz during covid only to be recalled a year later and yet I don't hate this company as much as pprune.
SFO net salary on my contract 5,5k on average. 6,5k in summer with 100h/28d. If you go out-of-base you can add 1-2k on top depending on the base. Commuting sucks as much as everywhere else. Rest like papalovesjumbo mentioned.

Yes,it is indeed pissed pilots rumor network.

What would you say is an average take home pay for a captain? And does it differ wildly with Wizz UK?

Curious.
you make those numbers only selling your rest days and outside EU in some funny eastern base.
Where do you pay taxes and SS btw?
Did you start in Wizzair?
Why would somebody have to go OOB to make more money is still a mistery to me.
Wzz still offer the lowest terms in the business.
I think they know it.

Nobody has to go out of base. But what's wrong of the company to offer extra incentive for people willing to help out at and at the same time experience a different base/country from time to time?
I'm actually surprised about this desire to work in aviation, but at the same time never leave home and sleep in one's own bed every night - but then again, I'm an old-ish git that started flying more than 2 decades ago and have worked on 5 continents. Especially in the low cost world with no layovers, what (besides IG for the younger generation) is so appealing about sitting in a tube all day, flying thousands of miles, but not going anywhere and not experiencing other cultures, food, countries?

I understand your point and agree with you, but we are human beings and, as such, have different preferences, personalities and priorities.
Some people want to be home as much as possible with their families, they may have young kids, sick relatives or it might fit better their lifestyle.
Others enjoy flying to different destinations, having a layover and seeing different places.
Others want to make as much money as possible regardless of lifestyle because money is their priority at that point in life.

And the same person will change over time. He or she might prioritize one thing at a certain age and something else once he/she is older, so you will always have people complaining about their jobs since most airlines won't offer contracts that address all those different lifestyles/preferences.

I fly regularly with colleagues coming from other airlines and according to their stories the above statement is not true.