https://www.iaa.ie/personnel-licensi...ansfer-process

https://info.caa.co.uk/brexit/commercial-pilots/

A couple of links which may help.

Thanks deltahotel :).

Welcome. Be aware that their office is closed due COVID, due to re open early Dec. Wfh is happening but slow. FWIW I put my ppw in the post in early March. My basic licence and medical were ready early Sep, though CAA hadn’t sent TRE info so that took another 6 weeks to resolve.

Everything is now ready but there’s no one at the IAA to send out/exchange licences!

So I finally managed to get it off today, actually they told me to send it by email as nobody is at the office and it's work from home. They said to send the docs as well by post. So that's what I did. The CAA said it would take 35 working days for my medical stuff to be transferred. Similar to you, I sent my TRI/TRE stuff but they have expired, I just hope they keep some record of them if I need to renew. I wrote them on the form anyway, even though they're not current. Let's hope we all get some sort of licence back, To be fair, once they replied to the first email after a month, they were quick to reply thereafter.

For those guys without a current type. Apparently if you have a type rating on a third country license (faa etc) there is then a way to get credit for this and issue you with the EASA licence. Costs an extra 300 euro I think.

deltahotel

Been a while since you posted this but I'm in the same boat. And even though restrictions have eased in Ireland, they're still not accepting post? Have you heard anything?

I believe they plan to reopen next week. Colleague and I are waiting for email to tell us we can post in. That said I’ll probably send mine in jan when I have some time off.

It'll still be possible to get a UK to EASA licence after brexit takes place no doubt, maybe just a bit more nausea to go through. My mate converted a UAE licence to IAA EASA no trouble I'm sure no need to panic unless you absolutely need an EASA licence pronto for your current employment.

What about the 14 ATPL exams?

On the CAA's Brexit microsite FAQ, they state that non-UK EASA licence holders can continue to operate G - registered aircraft from Jan onwards but this will require a validation that's downloadable on the CAA website (and stuffed in your licence presumably). It goes on to say, vaguely, "It will be subject to conditions". Does anyone know what these are?

Nope. And keep Hitting F5 on that page to see how the wording changes day by day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45112872

I guess this is it. Time for the UK CAA to start preparing.

EASA issued some Guidelines for continued exemptions due to covid based on Article 71, see here: https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-...rdance-article

Some authorities who have received this memo and started applying it apparently done away with validity requirements for SOLI on or after November 19th.

Some authorities however insist that by December 31st the UK issued EASA licenses will sublime into thin air, so the late publication by EASA did not help many, however some authorities construed that if the application arrives to them by December 31st, they will honor the request and issue a license next year.

This was all before the Brexit agreement done today, which no one knows if it has any effect on professional licenses. I'm assuming someone here will find the document and the applicable clauses soon.

So everyone who got stuck, may still have a chance this week to apply out, but consider if it's worth it in your situation and with your license held.

Does not seem that professional qualifications made it into the final agreement.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres...wo_columns.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go...UMMARY_PDF.pdf

Go to page 13, its in there!

Well, now that the magic date has passed, has anyone any info/insight/speculation as to the process for going from UK PART-FCL to EASA PART-FCL? Any EASA authorities said much about this yet?

Just like converting your FAA license, that means 14 ATPL exams and skills test.

OhNoCB

Nobody knows, not even Balpa yet

From Balpa newsletter :

I'm very late to the party with regard to this discussion and I wish I'd kept myself better abreast of things. I incorrectly assumed that I would need to retain my UK-Issued licence in order to fly in the UK after the end of last year and so didn't follow through with my initial plan to move my licence to Portugal.

A colleague spoke to EASA about the seeming lack of reciprocity regarding privileges and was asked to email [email protected] stating his case, which I have now done also.

The immediate issue for me will now be how to gain an ATPL(H) licence validation for the coming year so that I can continue contracting in Europe. Has anyone had any experience of this or considering doing the same?

Without any publication from the EASA on the mutual recognition, your validation will last only 1 year and need to take a skill test, Class 1 and ELP.
(EU) 2020/723

Any luck from [email protected]?

Yes I understand that it will only be a 1-year validation but that buys me time to see if BALPA or any of these other avenues yield results with getting a reciprocal agreement or to start sitting my 14 exams! Sorry for my ignorance, what is an ELP in this regard? I searched the /723 doc but it didn't return anything.

ELP: English Language proficiency

I have a uk CAA ATPL and did nothing about converting to an EASA license before Brexit in the blind hope that there would be mutual recognition of my license by EASA in the Brexit agreement. It would appear that still nothing has been agreed as yet. I normally work for a European ACMI carrier on EU registered aircraft so it seems I would need to convert to an EASA license to hopefully fly once again this summer. I looked on the Irish website and it would also appear that as I had not applied for conversion before midnight on the 31st December then they would no longer accept Applications to convert to them, so it would appear I’m stuck in some sort of hole. I’ve emailed the Irish CAA to seek clarification of this but no response as yet. Just wondering if anyone else had found a way round this or whether I am mis understanding something? Any help would be greatly appreciated please?

There won't be any common sense, there has never been and there will never be. Prepare for the worst, and that is 14 ATPL exams. Let alone the issue of the right to live and work in Europe if had not become a resident in Europe before this mess unfolded.

Good luck.

Wait and see after all the dust settles might not be just as bad as all the ATPL exams. Might be better to get aviation out of the hole it's in first, things look bleak so far for 2021 it's hard to believe what's happened really.

Hello,

Has anyone heard back from the CAA regarding SOLI transfers being processed in December?

I had to supply some additional information for my application which I did in December, but no word
back as yet.

many thanks

I think it depends what NAA you decided to transfer to, some are quicker than others. The IAA seem to have ground to a halt unless anyone knows any different?

IAA still working, but slow because office only manned part time. My licence arrived last week.

Many thanks Flightleve001

It is the IAA that I am transferring to. But they had asked for the CAA to resend a DOC155 (having
viewed a certified copy of my licence). So I had to fill in another SRG2150 and have not heard
back from the CAA on the revised 155 being sent.

I had this problem last year. I got a good response from CAA by calling their licensing contact number. I couldn’t hurry things along but at least I spoke to a human being who could look at my file and tell me whether they had received the request and whether it been actioned.

:ok: cheers Deltahotel, will try that

Hi all, it seems there is no automatic recognition of qualifications in the Brexit deal, I stand to be corrected if anyone has anymore up to date information. See the links take from Deliotte and The Institute. This may explain why the UK CAA are doing there part to recognise EASA qualifications but not the other way round as of yet.

The other problem that we face is the right to work in Europe has now been lost. As i'm sure many have seen some jobs are starting to spring up around Europe but we are not eligible apply.

https://www2.deloitte.com/uk/en/page...fications.html

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...-deal/services

I hope not a single UK pilot will ever work in the EU again. You guys wanted out, well here you go.Enjoy your Leeds base then! Paint that on the bus next time!

Much like cross border trade, the UK still has a far greater number of EU pilots - you want them kicked out too? :rolleyes:

Are you Ursula by any chance?

How many EU pilots are currently working in the UK?

I don't wanna rehash this too much as it's old ground, but there are hundreds in BA, and the freighter outfit that became something else, has almost the majority EU pilots, Virgin has several, Ryanair, easyjet. All a very significant number. Over thirty years, I have worked equally on both sides of la Manche, and believe me, it's more in the UK by a big margin, pilot numbers were mentioned a while back, but prior to Brexit, in the general population there were three times more EU workers in the uk, than Brits in the WHOLE of the EU! (less now, after many migrant workers left in the last few months).

I can't think EU pilots holding UK licences are much chuffed by the situation. Just gotta hope BA VS etc can avoid redundancies.

BA(IAG), EasyJet and Ryanair are EU companies.

Just block UK airlines from flying to EU, you get everything you want from them in a heartbeat. The UK is in a weak position, much more dependent on EU than the other way round. That goes for trade and especially the financial service industry as well. Ursula is a weak old woman full of German guilt. The moment a real leader, most preferable a French or Dutch is at the top of the EU, the UK will be in a dire position.

Lear, that's by the by. It's where people work that's key. STW, I don't know why I wasted my time responding to you.

Focus on current employment numbers is very short sighted, the EU needs to capitalise from Brexit. Employment is where the business is, and that business needs to be in Europe. The financial centre of Europe needs to be in Europe, the biggest airports of Eirope need to be in Europe. Heathrow is now outside of Europe, a competitor like Dubai or Istanbul. The UK airlines are competition just the same, and need to be treated that way in the future. You wait, populist will gain power in Europe as well, just like Boris and Donald, European countries will now get more inward-looking as well, the gloves are off and it is 27:1. Just wait a few more elections, most importantly the French one. Make EU great again. What goes around comes around.Nationalism is contagious, that is what Brexit fans not yet understand.

But of course you might have a personal interest in keeping the status quo, fair enough.