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Hi everyone I am in the middle of the assesments at the moment, Just a random question that I was hoping someone may be able to shed a bit of light on.
I have a few holidays booked with family and friends for later this year that my current company has approved already.If I was to be succesful with the BA assesments
would they honor these holidays at all? I am willing to give up the holidays of course for the chance at the job and the type rating and all that but was just wondering
if there was any chance they would slot the initial training around it and just deduct the holiday days off me as usual. bit of a random one but hope I have explained it well.
thanks

Hmm, I think you might need to lower your expectations of what employment by BA looks like.

Kibathepilot

14th February 2020 14:04

Like I said not expecting them to honour it and would gladly drop the holiday to work for them.I only ask as where I live and work currently it is something that happens. thanks for the reply though....

wiggy

14th February 2020 14:23

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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10687563)

Hmm, I think you might need to lower your expectations of what employment by BA looks like.

Cruel but fair...:E

MaverickPrime

14th February 2020 14:46

Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?

GS-Alpha

14th February 2020 15:47

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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10687587)

Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?

This is purely my opinion, but I suspect the recruitment plans for this year are gong to reduce significantly once the world realises this Coronavirus is already out of control. So I think that is unlikely MaverickPrime. I am expecting a severe cut in capacity with 747s leaving earlier than currently scheduled.

VinRouge

14th February 2020 22:17

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Originally Posted by MaverickPrime (Post 10687587)

Does anyone know if there is a plan, or likelihood, that BA will run the scheme for newly qualified pilots this year?

Imho, yes, and a fair few of them too.

RexBanner

14th February 2020 22:55

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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10687625)

I suspect the recruitment plans for this year are gong to reduce significantly once the world realises this Coronavirus is already out of control..

back in the real world where more people die of flu than the Coronavirus I would imagine recruitment won’t alter much if at all.

anson harris

15th February 2020 00:00

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Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10687879)

back in the real world where more people CURRENTLY die of flu than the Coronavirus I would imagine recruitment won’t alter much if at all.

There, I fixed it for you.

wiggy

15th February 2020 06:41

The only given in all this is that retirements will continue at a decent rate. On one hand that might mean recruitment continues throughout the year, OTOH if this gets really nasty and the flying plan takes a big hit that attrition might simply mean those pilots already in BA get to keep their jobs.

As someone who is old enough to have has seen up close how BA responded to the impact of Gulf War 1, GW 2, 9/11 etc I will offer one bit of advice:

If you really want to leave wherever you are currently , and you really want to join BA then now is really really is not the time to finesse a joining date....... grab the first start date that BA put on the table.

Phantom4

15th February 2020 09:04

Wiggy spot on as usual and has seen it all.
Take first offer and do not ruffle their feathers as they will just ring next person on the list.
’when can you start?’ 8.00am tomorrow is the response,not that hard.
FWIW BA May be shying away from MPL licences due lack of SA and teamwork skill set.

Sleepybhudda

15th February 2020 10:52

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Originally Posted by Phantom4 (Post 10688126)

Surely thats their training providers fault for not teaching it properly. MPLs are bespoke courses to the sponsoring airlines needs. I would expect BA to tell the relevant ATO to rectify the deficiencies in training rather than just giving up on a chunky investment of time and money. No guarantees taking cadets from elsewhere will result in anything better.

BaronVonBarnstormer

15th February 2020 11:13

Have the first of the BA MPL cadets started on the A320 yet? I thought the scheme opened in 2018. I know BA city flyer have had MPL cadets for a few years now.

Yellow Sun

15th February 2020 11:19

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Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 10688007)

As someone who is old enough to have has seen up close how BA responded to the impact of Gulf War 1, GW 2, 9/11 etc I will offer one bit of advice:

If you really want to leave wherever you are currently , and you really want to join BA then now is really really is not the time to finesse a joining date....... grab the first start date that BA put on the table.

OTOH; and purely anecdotal; the son of a friend of mine was due to fly to the US to start training as a BA cadet the day after 9/11. Needless to say, this was delayed with no indication of when or if it would be reinstated. The employer he had just left took him back and he’s now on the main board of a FTSE 100 company. As one door closes another opens.

YS

Phantom4

15th February 2020 11:46

SleepyBhudda,You make a very good point but these are three,four years out of school in established airlines both domestic and ME.A colleague recently witnessed the candidate’s CFIT during procedural letdown due turning the wrong way.

student88

15th February 2020 14:31

Good news for those of you who are crap at flying/CRM/decision-making etc, BA are trialing ditching the sim assessment for a select number of A320 DEPs.

Phantom4

15th February 2020 14:40

Bad idea and could be expensive long term.
IMHO only one category is capable of that path is RAF.
BTW I’m not ex military.

wiggy

15th February 2020 17:23

Don't worry..it's only a trial :bored:...there's obviously no chance of screening by way of a sim being dropped for all candidates, even if a cost saving does get demonstrated....no, no chance at all..:oh:

RogueOne

15th February 2020 19:33

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Originally Posted by student88 (Post 10688370)

Good news for those of you who are crap at flying/CRM/decision-making etc, BA are trialing ditching the sim assessment for a select number of A320 DEPs.

Interesting.

What's the criteria for these fine individuals?

V1__	15th February 2020 19:46

Anyone else got a start date In May and looking to share accommodation for TR course?

2 Whites 2 Reds

16th February 2020 06:10

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Originally Posted by Phantom4 (Post 10688384)

Bad idea and could be expensive long term.
IMHO only one category is capable of that path is RAF.
BTW I’m not ex military.

what utter tosh. In my experience ex mil are often the ones that need it the most! CRM and all that!

but that’s another thread.

ditching the sim is a very very bad idea! I think most people at coal face are horrified.

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