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Originally Posted by kookiesandkreme
(Post 10633775)
[QUOTE =VinRouge;10633711]
Names out of a hat. Done by the recruitment team prior to joining. I thought it would be more fun to do it when you arrived day one at Waterside! Yep. You can see everyone’s seniority from pretty much day one. |
Originally Posted by kookiesandkreme
(Post 10633775)
Would you be able to know who was higher?
FWIW you don’t actually see the seniority numbers changing on a monthly basis (due to people leaving), they only get recalculated/reallocated once a year. |
Originally Posted by wiggy
(Post 10634380)
Every month when the bidding cycle starts as part of the published bidding package you get a status list of with the names on your fleet and their seniority number on the Master Senority List, the smaller the number the more senior they are...so yes, you would know. FWIW you don’t actually see the seniority numbers changing on a monthly basis (due to people leaving), they only get recalculated/reallocated once a year. Pretty neat you can actually see nonetheless! |
FWIW you don’t actually see the seniority numbers changing on a monthly basis (due to people leaving), they only get recalculated/reallocated once a year. |
Originally Posted by thetimesreader84
(Post 10634565)
The official number (that’s used for fleet changes etc) only gets updated once per year, but there’s a third party app (rhymes with “ShyKid”) that uses the monthly bid pack and some voodoo magic to guesstimate your current actual seniority. I’m led to believe if you’re in the bottom 2/3rds or so (as most of us are) it’s pretty accurate. Of course most months it's probably more important to know where roughly you stand on a fleet, rather than where you are on the MSL. Back in the days of paper bid packs it was usually a question of "what page are you on"? Nowadays I know the app(s) often tell you how many bidders on your fleet are senior to you but when you then hear that Global Constraints has clobbered the roster of somebody who is 97% off the bottom/3% off the top of their list you wonder if even that info is worth having .. |
Global constraints is a particularly brutal part of JSS, and yet was hardly even mentioned during the which bidding program debate. |
The issue isn't so much JSS. It is the inhibitors that the union have placed in the system (almost 80%), which make it almost unworkable. Yes, this gem was BALPA, not BA.
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Global constraints ?
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GS-A wrote - Global constraints is a particularly brutal part of JSS, and yet was hardly even mentioned during the which bidding program debate. Doesn't sound very transparent either way. ... |
Is anybody able to shed light on the process of requesting a switch to a LGW base from LHR (SH FO)? When can this be done? And what are the chances of it being accepted? |
Originally Posted by boeing89
(Post 10634918)
Is anybody able to shed light on the process of requesting a switch to a LGW base from LHR (SH FO)? When can this be done? And what are the chances of it being accepted? |
Got my transfer approved about 2 months after I requested it- moved the next month. Best decision you can make whilst on SH.
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When do they open requests for fleet and base transfers?
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Got my transfer approved about 2 months after I requested it- moved the next month. Best decision you can make whilst on SH. |
Originally Posted by thetimesreader84
(Post 10635353)
LHR - LGW moves normally get actioned quite quickly. Going the other way can take a bit longer (took me about a year from an OK bid) Agreed - IF you live within a short commute of Gatwick I know it’s been posted before, but what’s the difference in net pay? Just for example someone on year one? |
Sorry to steer away from pay chat for a jiffy; has anyone heard any whispers of when the doors may open again?
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Originally Posted by kookiesandkreme
(Post 10635374)
I know it’s been posted before, but what’s the difference in net pay? Just for example someone on year one? |
Is LGW mainly day trips on the 320? How long is the list looking for commands at LGW these days? thanks |
Part Time Beef
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In BA - Part Time seems to mean ...... GS-Alpha wrote - " .... you can get back from a trip on the last day of your available days, and the industrial or EASA required days off are within your unpaid part time days off." " ... part time pilots are working harder than their adjusted full time equivalents." "Global constraints is a particularly brutal part of JSS ...." After each longhaul trip he gets two nights off, that he calls MTBR or 'recovery days.' But when it comes to his part-time days off, he loses his MTBR because they make him start his seven unpaid part-time days off the day after he lands back at London. So he isn't paid for two days of righteous work (his MTBR) which should be on Company Time and Money, that follows his trip on CTM, because those two days are rostered as his unpaid part-time days off instead. He doesn't think he loses any money but he becomes available for two more days work each month than his (adjusted) full time mates. He says 'JSS global constraints' then shuffles his initial roster to cover any left-over work and to ensure his two days extra availability is not squandered. He says his part-time roster usually looks and feels like he's still working full time. What really peeves him off is that his Virgin mates who are part-time have so far managed to fend off this cheating. They get all their entitled days off in full - MTBR and Part Time. You'd think Balpa-BA and Balpa-Virgin would get their part-time heads together. Let's hope their managements don't do the same. He calls it Part Time (Chipped) Beef - aka - 'S*** on a (BA) Shingle.' That's not a reference to his crew meal BTW; it's apparently a popular culinary delicacy from his USAF exchange days. ... |
Originally Posted by Panel3
(Post 10634765)
The issue isn't so much JSS. It is the inhibitors that the union have placed in the system (almost 80%), which make it almost unworkable. Yes, this gem was BALPA, not BA.
The main reason JSS doesn't work well at BA (on that we do agree), is we are, as we were under bid-line, massively under-established, with CAP far too high to enjoy a decent home life, unless on a part-time contract. |
Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
(Post 10636354)
If anyone if privy to knowledge of part time work at BA, could you pm me? Specifically interested in how many extra days off per month you see Vs. the obvious cut in salary, and if it’s worth it or not! Cheers! In theory, you will work (on a 75% contract) just 75% as hard as a full-timer - but that's not quite true, as anyone senior on a fleet, can pretty much write their own roster and effectively spend as little, or less, time at work than a junior guy on a 75% roster. (Legal action is being considered by a band of RTR part-timers over this - whether that amounts to anything is anyone's guess)! Moving to a 75% contract costs around a 16% reduction in take-home salary, if paying UK tax - so from that point of view, is well worth it. ....and then there's JSS and the MBTR (Minimum Base TurnRound) thing mentioned above, where the system can use your part-time (unpaid) days to satisfy the legal rest requirements - which other airlines, and even our cabin crew on part-time contracts, don't suffer from! 75% RTR (1 week off in 4) is just one of 4 major part-time contracts; the others being 50% RTR (2 weeks off in 4), 72% APTW (Aspirational Part Time Working) - 1 month off every 3 (a small amount of work has to be done within your month 'off' to satisfy recency etc.), and 58% APTW (month on, month off). There are a couple of minor PT options for those that have been refused access to one of the major contracts - one of which is 85%, but no fixed days off - and one other that I can't remember. I don't know anyone that has taken up these minor versions, though I guess someone must have by now! |
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