I think most of the recent contributors to this thread successfully got “on with it” a few (or in at least one case many) years ago...but thanks for the advice...

It is without doubt a cost saving measure and of course relieves the pressure on the training department.

However all this worry over “standards falling” needs to be offset against the fact that sim check or not, these A320 DEPs will still have to pass the initial BA “short” course with not a huge amount of time to get used to the SOPs and BA, erm, “philosophy” when it comes to how we operate. It’s not like they pass an interview and start flying the line the next day is it? I know a few highly capable people from ezy back when I joined who failed the sim check at BA for who knows what reason, and they are every bit if not more capable than me, so go figure. If you can fly an Airbus for ezy/shamrock/TC you can most likely fly it just as well for BA and if you can’t you won’t get past the sim short course or line training.

Still plenty of time to **** up if you aren’t up to scratch. And let’s face it, if there is a sudden spike in failures from guys who didn’t have to jump through the sim ride hoop then the “trial” will be ended pronto given that would be a far most costly and time consuming issue for the various beancounting silos that make up what used to be called BA.

I really don’t see this affecting the price of fish tbh.

Morning all,

For anyone joining on the SH course commencing 20th April - Let me know / DM me!

For anyone with upcoming assessments DM me also, more than happy to help others.

Safe flying and have a good weekend folks.

WA

In the current climate are start dates even still being handed out? Rumours of 3 weeks unpaid leave being offered on the 777.

Have not heard anything re 3 weeks, they have offered us to be able to drop trips for unpaid leave on the 777. I do worry that those in the pool may be swimming a lot longer now, though hopefully I am wrong on this as I have a few mates swimming.

As CXKA says unpaid leave of some duration very definitely being offered on the 777, notice came out a few days ago.

IMHO it’s hard to see how both the hold pool and recruitment are not going to be hit by this.

Recruitment was stated today in the Times business section as one way of pairing back expenditure and reducing costs.

Does anyone have an informed opinion as to where one might stand having been given a start date and submitted notice to current employer, awkward timing and wondering how much of a “done deal” a signed contract actually is 😬

+1!!



c h a r a c t e r s

Same here...and already left previous airline in anticipation of starting.

Same boat here, have a start date in May. I’ve emailed the recruitment team to ask what’s going on. Not an ideal situation to be in.

How many of those who's been through stage 3 did sim prep beforehand?
There are a few places out there who offers xHours on a 747 for $$$

For those who's done it was it worth it or was it better not having any experience on the 747 coming in to the sim and having a greater learning curve (for those who didn't)
Is it needed or can it in someways have a negative impact on the actual sim?

There maybe some benefit but personally I would be practicing flying needles all around UK airports. This will be much more useful than spending loads on a 747 sim. They will take lack of experience on a 747 in to account but if you can’t fly a raw data SID/STAR or hold then that will be an issue. I spent a good few days sat on flight sim at my old flying school and it made a big difference on the day. Best of luck

Judging by the very high number of begging texts for P2s to pick up trips and come and fly on their days off, I don't think those in the pool have too much to worry about right now. That comes with the caveat that if offered SH, take it. Take the first offer you get. Delaying for LH could really come back to bite you in the backside at the moment.

We seem to be desperate on the A320 at LHR the moment. I received five texts asking for volunteers to cover flights at very short notice yesterday, and another five on Friday. They're offering Leave Buy Back in February, which is quite unprecedented. I shudder to think what the summer is going to be like.

Best advice from EMB,take first offer.Ten years ago hold pool drained and swimmers left floundering.
Guys and girls had to repeat application 18 months later,wasn’t pretty.

Unfortunately all recruitment (operational and non operational), except for offers already made, are being suspended for the time being.

Source for that info (or at least a hint at where it came from )?

From RN this morning

Ok thanks...I wonder how long it will take to permeate as far as the Yammersphere and/or “One”...?

Oh hang on, it’s a weekend.......

Don’t suppose you’d know whether that includes BACF as well?