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Except that the overall need for pilots company wide has been published by the department, as just under 300 pilots. I personally think 250 is probably a rounded up figure by trainers who know that the company often changes the plan and demands more of them. I can easily see the figure being above 200, and 250 should not be taken with a pinch of salt.

GS-Alpha

23rd December 2019 09:35

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Originally Posted by RexBanner (Post 10646053)

Yes to the engagement freeze, I started right at the beginning of 2016. A couple of months earlier I could have been in luck.

I know it is disappointing not to get that move you were hoping for, and some lucky people do occasionally get released from their freeze when needs must, but unfortunately it is not the norm. With a super high training requirement on short haul already, it is unsurprising that they are not adding to it by releasing more A320 FOs than the agreements dictate.

A320LGW

23rd December 2019 10:36

What are the actual chances of being successful without having 500hrs? Based on my current roster I will just about make the 100 sector requirement around about the time of the application closing date

bex88

23rd December 2019 11:20

Play the game. Bang in the application and pic up some overtime if you can

A320LGW

23rd December 2019 11:34

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Originally Posted by bex88 (Post 10646149)

Play the game. Bang in the application and pic up some overtime if you can

cheers and do you reckon i'm ok to apply right now or is it best to wait until i've reached the 100 sectors before sending it in?

byrondaf

23rd December 2019 11:50

apply and then by the time you get to interview etc you'll have the hours. bingo.

A320LGW

23rd December 2019 12:25

fair enough, just wondered to what extent they may have reflected back as to what i had at the precise moment i filed the application because i'm required to sign off that i have the 100 sectors right this moment, will send it so!

The Blu Riband

23rd December 2019 12:29

PRIAM - an explanation of the name

The previous software system was named CASSANDRA. In Greek mythology she was able to foresee the future (but no-one ever believed her) so was an aptly named program for BA's fleet bidding and moves. PRIAM was her father and is the successor.

Banana Joe

23rd December 2019 12:47

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Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 10646117)

Just apply. I fly cargo and have about 350 hours on the 737, but way in excess of 100 sectors. It's worth a try and free of charge!:}

wiggy

23rd December 2019 13:28

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Originally Posted by The Blu Riband (Post 10646182)

PRIAM - an explanation of the name....

Thanks fo the added info..I knew there was a link with Cassandra in there somewhere..

BA,....the company that gives it computer programs names and it's pilots 5 letter Codes...:}

Twiglet1

23rd December 2019 16:20

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Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 10646228)

Thanks fo the added info..I knew there was a link with Cassandra in there somewhere..

BA,....the company that gives it computer programs names and it's pilots 5 letter Codes...:}

If it was Cassandra then surely someone should have picked Rodney?

RexBanner

23rd December 2019 19:33

Or Dave

(I’ll get my coat)

TitanCadetScheme

24th December 2019 07:30

Before I pull the Trigger.

Thegreenmachine

24th December 2019 11:57

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Originally Posted by A320LGW (Post 10646180)

Some terrible advice by others here. Be careful signing the application declaration saying you have xxx hours/sectors when you do not.

MostAnnoying

24th December 2019 15:20

Hi all, barging in here with a few questions.
Have applied for the FO A320 position. Applied on 21/12 and got my invitation this morning.

First round, what can I expect? They sent me some "practice" things, is that honestly what can be expected on the tests? And how eager are they to recruit folks with just 500 hours? I've got 2k hours myself but on the B737.

What is the time frame between First Round and Second Round of assessment?

And also, any BA 320 pilots here who mind sharing their experience within BA. Coming from Ryanair, i'm used to a fair share of being pushed around.

Thanks in advance and Merry Christmas.

Phantom4

25th December 2019 07:31

A320!GW
RTFQ
Spend at least five days on the initial application and run it past friends as to its authenticity
HR do not like people winging it.

Juan Tugoh

25th December 2019 21:03

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Originally Posted by The Blu Riband (Post 10646182)

Nearly right. PRIAM was the program that determined the postings and promotions requirement. The CASSANDRA run was the program output.

PRIAM was the king of Troy whose daughter, CASSANDRA, was a priestess gifted with the ability to foresee the future but was cursed, by the gods, such that no one would ever believe her prophecy.

The system that replaced PRIAM is CRYSTAL, but due to laziness and usage, PRIAM has become the accepted usage for all PnP processes, both bid and output.

Mrglass

27th December 2019 16:38

Any calls for Q2 start dates?

If so - what was your hold pool entry date and your new class date (approx).

Thanks

FRYVA

29th December 2019 15:29

Hello folks,

Starting soon A320 LHR and looking forward to it.

Couple of quick questions, if I may...

-Am assuming I will start on the newly ratified £63,xxx DEP scale (as per PPJN) not the £58,xxx I signed electronically a month or so back?
-Any top tips for getting the “best” commutable rosters? (I am looking purely to minimise total commuting time and expenses on my own $ and have no issues with working long days/all weekends/deep nights/loads of sectors etc)
-Have read the thread fully but did we find a conclusive answer to exactly how junior SH LHS is running at the moment?
-Likelihood of getting LH inside initial engagement freeze? And does a rating on a BA LH type “help” or is it purely seniority?
-Any idea how long until one could realistically expect to achieve 50% working pattern?
-Any other top tips?

Many thanks!

bex88

29th December 2019 16:21

FRYVA: first off congratulations and welcome

LH inside of your engagement freeze is very very rare for SH to LH.
Commuting roster: It’s going to be tough to have any control for a good year or more. It all depends how many join under you. My advice would be to bid for 2-5 day tours as H++. You should be able to easily get 2 day 6 tours but you may need to do some trading or swapping with other pilots.

Pay, you will be on the same as everyone so the new rate effective 1st Jan.

Aspirational part time is currently not available. Right to request is generally 2 years, put your request in ASAP and see what happens. You can always decline it.

Commands, someone will correct me as I did not pay much attention to the bids but I thing LHR commands were around 7-8 years. Gatwick a little less. The general trend is returning towards 10-12 years for SH, 20...ish for LH.

Advice. Find a local LHR hang out. You will need it for reserve if more than 2 hours away and for the odd night stop at LHR. Crew will help you out on that one with all the tricks.

Buy us yourself a reusable cup because Pret give you 50p off with each coffee ;)

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