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Thanks for the update.
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TC Pilots are of particular attraction if they are A330/350 rated |
Originally Posted by boeing89
(Post 10597953)
Any idea whether BA have actually taken on guys/girls from Thomas Cook? As doubtless you know, seniority is king at BA, which essentially starts with your sim assessment date. That is the order in which start date offers are given (fleet/LH/SH specific of course, depending on requirements). And so I’d expect BA to follow that script this time. They got a bit of stick for not doing what VS did, who made a big noise about offering opportunities to Monarch pilots, but as Wiggy says, the company are very process driven. And the reality is that Virgin likely made a noise to generate some good PR, and the number of MON pilots they took on ahead of those they had already assessed was probably very very small... FCR |
Thanks to wiggy, flying11red, phantom4 and FCR...all really interesting insights :ok: |
How come people in the hold pool are starting courses before those already in the pool?? As you say, are BA not process driven, therefore we should all be in order. ? swimming since March. |
Originally Posted by Serenity
(Post 10598561)
How come people in the hold pool are starting courses before those already in the pool?? As you say, are BA not process driven, therefore we should all be in order. ? swimming since March. |
I think that's the underlying query. I can only repeat that I'm highly sceptical, it's not the "BA way"....the only justification for any jumping that does happen might be the sort of scenario Jock Trapped has described.
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A few TCX pilots have been prioritised, screened, offers made, accepted and have start dates. Mix of 320/350 offers. Not a lot and not a threat to remaining hold poolers. Don’t know exact numbers but this is from a trainer. For 2020 the numbers vary greatly. Brexit, possible economic downturn, TCX demise, perhaps another airline going bankrupt in LGW, who knows? It all has a massive impact on recruitment. Even the IA going on will influence the bean counters. And that’s the biggest point, we need pilots, desperately. But not a single one has been approved yet by the budget. The airline is run by finances, they approve the budget and then flight OPS will try their best to make it work. Frustrating for all. We on the line feel the beating of the whip and could use the extra ladies and gents! Before anybody asks, numbers ranging from 0 recruitment (highly unlikely) to 400 (highly unlikely) for next year. So somewhere in the middle? I joined BA 2 years ago on SH, gave up a regional jet command. Is it perfect? No, far from it. But after surviving three struggling airlines, this is a breath of fresh air! is it hard work? Yes. Am I happy I did it? Yes. Long term vision is key. I couldn’t see myself commuting to a 6-3 pattern regional job on an old jet. 4-5 sectors a day for the rest of my career. Get in, do your thing, have fun on the line (interesting destinations and lovely people to fly with 99 out of a 100). Just my two cents |
Originally Posted by Saab0409
(Post 10598961)
is it hard work? Yes. Am I happy I did it? Yes. Long term vision is key. I couldn’t see myself commuting to a 6-3 pattern regional job on an old jet. 4-5 sectors a day for the rest of my career. Get in, do your thing, have fun on the line (interesting destinations and lovely people to fly with 99 out of a 100). Just my two cents |
Originally Posted by Saab0409
(Post 10598961)
A few TCX pilots have been prioritised, screened, offers made, accepted and have start dates. Mix of 320/350 offers. Not a lot and not a threat to remaining hold poolers. Don’t know exact numbers but this is from a trainer. TBH I can't see how anybody recently made redundant by TCX having already been given start dates doesn't potentially "threaten" in some way shape or form some of those remaining in the hold pool, but I think I'd best leave that for others better placed to debate. Thanks for the update. |
Originally Posted by VinRouge
(Post 10599021)
Fully agree with this. Yes, hard work but a unified work force able to fight for (arguably) te best T and C in the industry. My only regret is not making the move 4 years previous. Additionally, if TCX holdpoolers have been prioritised that’s a bit of a joke. It’d definitely jeopardise everyone in the holdpool they’ve leapfrogged, it’s simply has to have done. At the very least it’s put them up the seniority list which in itself is a joke. I wonder if BA called everyone in the hold pool to ask if they’re still in work, or just assumed it’s only TCX crew that aren’t working since applying. I doubt it. |
Originally Posted by VJW
(Post 10599072)
Best T&C’s in the industry? That’ll be a hell of a fight to achieve this- as a new joiner you don’t even have as good a T&C as your slightly longer serving colleagues. Additionally, if TCX holdpoolers have been prioritised that’s a bit of a joke. It’d definitely jeopardise everyone in the holdpool they’ve leapfrogged, it’s simply has to have done. At the very least it’s put them up the seniority list which in itself is a joke. I wonder if BA called everyone in the hold pool to ask if they’re still in work, or just assumed it’s only TCX crew that aren’t working since applying. I doubt it. |
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Hi all,
In the pool....No updates...Did anyone hear or any indication of any movement? Are they waiting for 31st Oct :P (Brexit) |
There is always a whole lot of chopping and changing of the coming year’s flying plan at this time of year. They tend to need to have a clear idea of the plan for internal movements before they can finalise plans for new recruits, and as a result there is always a lack of information and then a sudden mad rush to train up new recruits. I am sure the Brexit shenanigans, constantly changing ongoing 787 engine issues, pilot strikes, general global economic outlook, and plenty of other variables are causing real headaches for the planners just at the moment.
With regards to who is spending ages in the hold pool and who is not, and what those reasons are, if indeed it is even happening; there really is no point in even asking the question, never mind worrying about it. BA will do as they please and you would have a job on your hands changing the process from within, never mind as an aspiring employee. For what it is worth, the latest figure I have heard is 300 new recruits for next year, so you will all be in soon enough. |
Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 10599076)
mate, if things like this wind you up to that extent I’d suggest BA may not be for you. You’ll need a much stronger give a “F@@k ‘ometer “ to survive at this outfit. |
Originally Posted by VJW
(Post 10599072)
Additionally, if TCX holdpoolers have been prioritised that’s a bit of a joke. It’d definitely jeopardise everyone in the holdpool they’ve leapfrogged, it’s simply has to have done. At the very least it’s put them up the seniority list which in itself is a joke. I wonder if BA called everyone in the hold pool to ask if they’re still in work, or just assumed it’s only TCX crew that aren’t working since applying. I doubt it. |
Good evening to everyone.
How much chance for a foreign FO tr320f with 1300tt coming from a yellow low cost? Are they looking for these kind of profiles? BA it is my dream |
Those of you swimming have my sympathy. I spent 6 months swimming as I was not Airbus rated at this time of year a few years back. My sim partner who was got in very quickly and is now around 120 places senior to me, which equates to a good year or two difference achieving a long haul command. As frustrating as it is, no point getting fussed about it as it is simply out of your control. The information flow doesn’t get any better within the company, as those waiting for annual bid results and course dates will testify. The 2020 plan changes pretty much daily for reasons well outside recruitment’s control, but I think GS Alpha is right in that there will be jobs for all in the pool soon enough. |
Originally Posted by Xavier999
(Post 10599322)
Good evening to everyone.
How much chance for a foreign FO tr320f with 1300tt coming from a yellow low cost? Are they looking for these kind of profiles? BA it is my dream The right to live and work in the UK? A CAA (f)ATPL? ICAO Level 6 English, spoken and written? MPA type rating on over 10 Tonnes Acft? (and I don't think a rating on a JAA license is transferable to a CAA license) If so, you can apply with City-Flyer, and after 2 years apply to transfer to BA..... |
Originally Posted by hans brinker
(Post 10599368)
Do you have:
The right to live and work in the UK? A CAA (f)ATPL? ICAO Level 6 English, spoken and written? MPA type rating on over 10 Tonnes Acft? (and I don't think a rating on a JAA license is transferable to a CAA license) If so, you can apply with City-Flyer, and after 2 years apply to transfer to BA..... I would like to know if they like profiles like mine, foreign pilot with not so much experience Thank to everyone that will answer. BA it’s my dream |
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