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RexBanner 8th February 2018 19:02

And I’ve heard from others ITK that it’s not even remotely on the radar so depends which rumour you want to believe really. You can drive yourself mad if you worried about everything you heard on the rumour mill.

Not exactly a Nostradamus prediction to say they were looking to address the pension situation, especially as Steve Gunning had said it himself directly in his introductory video almost two years ago!

Retrojet 8th February 2018 19:46

Just read on !!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Airbus Is in Talks With British Airways on More A380s - Page 7 - !!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Someone said someone posted on yammer that a new A380 order is imminent, but since posting the post has been removed from yammer.....

Anyone on the inside have any more info?

student88 8th February 2018 20:03

Well the most recent flight ops news said the A380 fleet is planning to remain at 12 aircraft for the foreseeable future..

Yorkshire_Pudding 8th February 2018 20:34


BA has delayed retirement of some of their 747s and expanded their fleet so that now they are 11 aircraft short for completing the replacement. If they want to further expand their fleet then that number would rise further.
Be nice to finally see a launch customer for the B777-10X stretch and the pilots to go with it.

BitMoreRightRudder 8th February 2018 20:52


Not exactly a Nostradamus prediction to say they were looking to address the pension situation
Not exactly wrong either was it.

Retrojet 13th February 2018 14:45

Any news this week?

thetimesreader84 13th February 2018 17:26

My understanding from the conference call was that rather than let you know in advance, (“Hey TTR, we’re putting you on a course in October, that ok?”) they are waiting until 90 days before your expected start date to contact you.

In that instance, it may be a flurry of activity followed by periods of radio silence.

Boeing 77W 13th February 2018 21:42

A few DEP long haul offers went out last week. I believe a mixture of rated and non rated.

Jwscud 14th February 2018 12:17

TTR, I suspect that is simply because nobody in BA has a clue what the course/manning status is like in October. People in the company only get notified 6 weeks ahead of a course (with all planned leave &c being wiped off your roster) so you are actually getting twice the notice we are!

thetimesreader84 14th February 2018 13:14

Jwscud, I completely understand the reasoning behind why they aren’t giving more than the bare minimum notice for start dates. Doesn’t make it any easier when you’re at the bottom of the (TR) hold pool acutely aware of how quickly things can change. One morning you’re flying to Tenerife, prepping for a command interview, 24 hours later you’re unemployed...

Just putting my spin on why it’s a bit “peaks & troughs” with people getting called for start dates.

Retrojet 19th February 2018 14:10

From what I have heard, some A320 offers might have gone out today... fingers crossed!

WonderBus 19th February 2018 17:54

They have yes, 320 for LHR

thetimesreader84 19th February 2018 18:15

Good news.

Do we know when the lucky ones came into the hold pool? I.e. how far through the hold pool are BA? I heard during the last intake a few weeks ago they were up to about mid October hold pool entry dates.

Mizar 19th February 2018 19:31

Timesreader, true but these were only 320 rated afaik

sudden twang 20th February 2018 10:06

if anyone is in the pool with experience as a DFO you maybe in luck.

G SXTY 20th February 2018 19:26

Ooh, you are naughty. :ok:

captain.weird 20th February 2018 21:25

For rated 320 positions?

CXKA 21st February 2018 05:08

Be interesting to know when they entered pool as doubt are 320 rated, my sim partner still waiting to get the call.

Flyer2007 21st February 2018 07:15

I know of a couple of people being offered 777 and 747 in the last few days. They have a current Boeing rating.

Retrojet 21st February 2018 07:17

From people I know.....late Oct to Nov holdpoolers and a320 type rated

Mizar 21st February 2018 09:01

Those who got long haul offers is it possible to know when they had their sims?

dhps 21st February 2018 09:13

I got a call for a long haul position early February.

My sim was back in April 2016, I am a 737 FO, approx 5000 hrs.

midnight cruiser 21st February 2018 09:27

Quite a volte face from when they used to turf people out of the pool after only 12 months

Fadecwithnos 21st February 2018 13:48

For the A320, does anyone know if its a short notice necessity?
Or we will be requested to be in the hold pool for several months?

Flyer2007 21st February 2018 16:01

May and June for the LH offers I believe. So getting through the Boeing hold poolers fairly quickly, unless there’s a bulge of them further on in the pool.

Retrojet 21st February 2018 18:23

A320 offers are going out with just about the 3months notice

Mizar 21st February 2018 18:46

May and june sim checks getting called now, is it confirmed?

Boeing 77W 21st February 2018 19:26

The last few weeks appear to have been a mixed bag. I know of 777/787/747 rated guys doing their sim checks between May and September 2016, now starting in May. Other non rated who did sim checks in April also starting in May.

Flyer2007 22nd February 2018 14:25


Originally Posted by Mizar (Post 10060686)
May and june sim checks getting called now, is it confirmed?

The guys I know were May and June for sim checks. Whilst not type rated, they’re both current on a Boeing aircraft, which from the update email seems to be the case for LH positions at the moment.

Not sure where they are with “pure” non rated such as Dash /EJet etc.

wiggy 23rd February 2018 06:58

Hot off the press for those getting the calls..

...BA makes a whopping £1.7 billion profits for the year, BA staff bonus is 1.4% of basic pay..Director of Flight Ops going, going, gone, ..nobody is owning up to why but there are v v strong rumours that of all synthetic training about to be outsourced ( anyone planning on joining and applying to be a trainer take note).......new rostering system (JSS) delayed 'cos only Bidline can cope with this summer's required level of work..increased restrictions on the ability of flying staff on duty having their teenage dependents accompany them as passengers when Mum or Dad is on a working trip..etc etc etc

Welcome aboard folks, you are joining at an in interesting time ..but do please bring your sense of humour and a thick skin, you'll need both....

BitMoreRightRudder 23rd February 2018 08:32

Hey Wiggy you forgot to mention the new uniform!

Apparently we get to design it ourselves....

Threethirty 23rd February 2018 09:31

Where did you read that? Can't see anything about a new uniform

oleostrutbasher 23rd February 2018 09:35

I know this has been done before, but with the continuing negative changes I am genuinely wondering if there is any point in continuing through the current selection process with BA, or whether to just stick with ezy where I am pretty happy. The trajectory BA seems to be on is a little worrying especially when moving there is playing the long game. Thoughts?

Enzo999 23rd February 2018 10:57


Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 10062326)
Hot off the press for those getting the calls..

...BA makes a whopping £1.7 billion profits for the year, BA staff bonus is 1.4% of basic pay..Director of Flight Ops going, going, gone, ..nobody is owning up to why but there are v v strong rumours that of all synthetic training about to be outsourced ( anyone planning on joining and applying to be a trainer take note).......new rostering system (JSS) delayed 'cos only Bidline can cope with this summer's required level of work..increased restrictions on the ability of flying staff on duty having their teenage dependents accompany them as passengers when Mum or Dad is on a working trip..etc etc etc

Welcome aboard folks, you are joining at an in interesting time ..but do please bring your sense of humour and a thick skin, you'll need both....

Is that what the bonus is 1.4%? I would rather have last years £300 and an extra ticket. Just starting my 5th reserve month in 18, somehow I feel so much better about it knowing I have £800 coming my way, not!!!!!

wiggy 23rd February 2018 11:08


Originally Posted by Threethirty (Post 10062452)
Where did you read that? Can't see anything about a new uniform

Not sure you'll find reference to that in today's intrablah announcement but there's been talk of a new uniform for a while..I haven't heard BMRR's verson of this is going to be done. The version I heard was it was going to be "make it yourself", with BA sending the design out to individuals via e-mail and then the individual building their fetching ensemble at home.

I know many of those not yet cognisant in the current BA way will perhaps find it hard to understand why many inmates probably think either of the above is actually a possibility.

They will achieve great understanding and become wise beyond their years the first time they do battle with mission critical stuff like the company iPad and software. They might just perhaps find..maybe...it doesn't work as advertised (I know with BA being gold standard and all that they'll find even that hard to believe), ask for advice from a manager or an "executive" and get told "but you just follow the instructions" or " there's an ESS form for that online".....or the all time favourite "it's self help, self teach, you shouldn't need my assistance, all you need to know is on My Learning Academy...".:yuk:

BitMoreRightRudder 23rd February 2018 12:21

It’s hidden in the email blurb, 2019, centenary year, new uniform. Designed by crew.

Personally I’m going to donate my “bonus” to the uniform design fund. I wonder if the A380 folks will ask for a gold pair of trousers?

wiggy 23rd February 2018 13:36

Naah, more likely some on that fleet are lobbying for a uniform hat with built in GoPro.....

(Sorry, not helpful for the prospective DEPs so I’ll knock it off now) .

bex88 23rd February 2018 16:56


I know this has been done before, but with the continuing negative changes I am genuinely wondering if there is any point in continuing through the current selection process with BA, or whether to just stick with ezy where I am pretty happy. The trajectory BA seems to be on is a little worrying especially when moving there is playing the long game. Thoughts?
Nope!.......long long list of pilots above in a seniority based company and not even LOCO pay.

Magnus456 23rd February 2018 17:25

Hi guys,

Any idea what aptitude tests BA are currently using for day 1? I know a couple of years ago there were two tests:

- The Flight director test, with numbers counting down and coloured shapes etc.
- The test with a NAV display, TCAS, electrical display and fuel pumps etc.

But a mate of mine who got in around a year ago didn't have to do the flight director test. Is this still the case?

Thanks a lot

FACoff 23rd February 2018 17:51


Originally Posted by bex88 (Post 10062849)
Nope!.......long long list of pilots above in a seniority based company and not even LOCO pay.

Just out of interest, were you one of the few who took an early command?


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