Permanent offer made today. Employed by easyJet from day one.

Well done thats a great result

So great to see the industry moving again for experienced people. That is finally an improvement on an industry that appeared to not require experience and in fact actively sought to avoid experience as it was "expensive". If it keeps going this way could terms and conditions go up some time soon too? Market forces going pilots way maybe?!

I'd love a crystal ball!!!!

Permy SO LGW offered this evening. Paid from Day 1 by Easy during TR (my expense @ 20K)

Great news. Can we close this thread now?. :E

Was unsuccessful after the online tests this year, but with permanent contracts on offer I'll certainly be hoping that they open up to applications again next year for us non-TR experienced folks. I love my little jet, but it certainly feels like time to move on to something bigger and to a true career company. I feel that easyJet would fit that mold very nicely.

You'd have to change your name though.

You're right! On second thoughts I'd be better off staying on my little 145 ;)

Let me correct this for you:ok:

"Non-standard career progression CAPT, SO, FO, SFO, CAPT"

Any apologies from those who so quickly castigated easyJet and those of us who repeatedly said that they were wrong. No thought not. May I be among the first to congratulate and extend a warm welcome to those who have had their great news today and of course those who will get similar good news over the next few days.

So Arctic Monkey, no further questions then? Maybe it is as I said all along - who would have believed it?

Alexander de Meerkat

When easyjet offers exclusively permanent contracts instead of a handful then come back and see us. Until then stop avoiding answering my original question. You'll do wonders in parliament.
A few perm contracts does NOT make the rest of the NEC contracts acceptable.

Hehehe.

You might wanna read up on some of the verbal sparring sessions I did many years ago with AdM. Don't say I didn't warn you! ;)

AdM is just a management lackey, making sure that there's a never ending stream of fresh cadets willing to do the dirty work (read: his dirty work) on ever increasing 'probation times.' :=

But AdM, just asking, but how long was your probation time when you joined as a DEC? Were you also on a flex roster? :rolleyes:

Dougie,

Probation time when ADM joined was 6 months it was standard at that time. Flex rostering didn't exist and you were working 5-2, 5-4.
If you are to move to other bases as a capt on old UK contract then some places you would have to start on flex rostering and also losing your annual loyalty bonus.

Doug the Head - as I live and breathe! I feared you had gone to that great hangar in the sky, but no - you still walk among us, happy as ever. I trust you are still with us in the orange fold, still waiting for Air Utopia to whisk you off your feet and take you to the promised land far from the life of slavery and penury which you find yourself marooned in here at easyJet. This thread has provided me with much to wonder at - first of all we have the people whose entire knowledge of easyJet is that we fly orange Airbuses around the place and sell expensive coffees and sandwiches, but still know so much more about the Company than the pilots that work there. Then we have the Arctic Monkeys of this world, out there in the cold so to speak, who have studiously believed that easyJet is an immoral employer, only to discover that the things people like myself have been saying are actually true after all. I know you are a 'glass fully empty' man yourself when it comes to easyJet, but even you must agree that your dire prophecies over the years have not really materialised. Regarding our cadets, there are literally dozens of them who joined easyJet on £500/month some years ago and who are now earning £100k+ as Captains before their 30th birthday. Hardly a disaster some might say.

We have our principal competition in the form of Ryanair, Vueling and Norwegian who all offer 'Brookfield'-style contracts whereas we offer permanent contracts on clearly stated terms and conditions the day you join. I accept that is due to BALPA, for whom I am profoundly grateful, but we are way better employers than any of them. As you rightly point out, when I joined it was a 6 month probation and that seemed to work fine. If we had to make it a year to get the deal through then frankly it was a price worth paying. A long and painful dispute has been brought to an end by both management and pilots having to bite the bullet and come to a compromise. Not perfect, but way better than the competition. I am amused to hear myself described as a 'management lackie', given that there have been a fair number of people on here who have doubted whether I work for easyJet at all. My position has always been that you have to play the team put out in front of you, and that working together is way better than living in constant dispute. So I have unashamedly voted 'Yes' for the current pay offer and 'Yes' to accept the holiday pay deal - maybe you voted differently (if you are not a freeloader), which is of course your prerogative. I am aware that in a period of economic austerity and actual pay cuts for countless workers in this country, easyJet are giving the best pay deal that I know of anywhere in Europe - but still still that is not enough for a few of our number. Fundamentally, I think easyJet is a great place to work - if that makes me a 'management lackie', then there are an awful lot of us around. Presumably if you could have found a better employer you would have done so by now. Perhaps your job is really not quite the disaster you have for so long believed it to be, and that there are indeed many worse places to work and, dare I say it, not too many better. Whatever the truth, it is a pleasure to read your thoughts once again.

Low cost is an aviation cancer

Justagiglio77 - oh the pain, the wretched 'abomination' that £100k per year is too low a salary for you to live on. You clearly have a job that wants to pay you more than that for less work, and I heartily recommend you hang on to it. For the more rational among us, you may be interested to know that the average executive in the UK (the highest paid group of employees) gets paid £120k per year. The average UK pilot gets paid £78k and the average UK annual salary is around £27k. I am a simple soul, but it seems to me that a salary of £100k is bearable.

I've missed the point to, but then I'm a lowly line monkey not a TRE so perhaps there is hope. :ok:

Enlighten me.

I disagree.

May I ask what effing planet are you on? I would suggest most working people in the UK and Canada would only be to happy to able to receve a quarter of what you think you can live on. I thought Canada was like the USA but with the bad bits taken out but it seems at least one individual has slipped through the net!