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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the total flight pay equates to please per year or month in summer and month in winter? Any help is much appreciated

Pilot3103,

It was stated in an earlier part of this thread that crew are paid £9.00 per flying hour and £3.52 for FDA (with 0.86 of this untaxed). I'm not sure what Thomson's Part A states with regards to when a flight duty period commences? I believe it ends at chocks on. A further complexity that you may encounter when trying to calculate predicted take home is that flight pay increases by a particular factor depending on the time of duty ie flying through the night into the morning etc. Again someone from TOM was kind enough to disclose this information in the early part of this thread.

I remember reading that average hours for a permanent full time employee were in the region of 700 per annum. This, in my opinion, will either be less on this deal or the same (you will simply work more during your two weeks on in the winter months). Summer appears to be full tilt, again a current TOM pilot suggested 90-93 hours per month.

I'm pretty sure take home may vary from base to base, type of scheduling, roster pattern etc.

Would be keen to know the type of pattern in the summer - 6/2 6/3 etc or is it more random? Does anyone commute from other parts of the UK? Ie B&B when on duty, return home for days off? Is this even economically feasible and/or does the roster pattern, especially during summer, allow it?

Many thanks

From page 2:-

"Duty Rig payment (effectively flying pay). This is around £9 per flying hour, but is uprated by 20% if you do a level 2, and 80% for those flying hours between 0100 and 0700 uk local.

FDA. This is from report time until chocks on at the end of the day. It is £3.52 per hour, 86p of which is tax free.

DC Pension, with 15% company contribution

42 days holidays pa

Private Health for you and your family with no extra payments and no excess payable

Paid unused standbys - about £40 for each 5 hours standby.

Paid ground school allowances -£40 per day

A holiday discount scheme that gets you between 40-70% of a Thomson group holiday pa depending on the price.

20 Requested Days Off pa

Free Uniform, free car parking, Full meals and drinks while on flying duty

Overtime scheme at £440 ish per day

Carmen rostering !!!

Pilot bonus scheme - paid at xmas, upto 2% salary depending on performance"

I heard over 700 have applied 60 selected for interviews over 4 days for 25-35 jobs.

Good luck

They have already selected and invited all the pilots needed?
Those who have not yet received a response can be considered excluded?

4000+ hrs, mostly NG = PFO :rolleyes:

not sure if letters have been sent out yet.

just out of interest, those with PFO letters re you in active employment elsewhere? If so where?

if they are sending letters of PFO to guys with 4000 NG time , there must be allot of very experienced people applying...?

I would say the opposite Boeing, cynical me says the less experienced guy is probably preferred.


@ bluebaron - I can assure you a PFO landed firmly in my inbox.

^^ what makes you say that...?? I have 1k NG time so I welcome that comment ha

What format are the PFO's in? Email?

Also a PFO via email (3000hrs on 737 - no NG)

The info I had is that they were looking for a range of experience levels within the criteria laid down. If so and assuming the numbers quoted above are correct then with a slightly less than 1 in 10 chance I would humbly suggest that there will doubtless be guys with lots of experience who are disappointed and / or frustrated.

I was reliably informed that 170 applications were received in the first 24 hours that met all the requirements so the 700 quoted above may not be unreasonable.

PFO
 

2700, mostly NG. Currently employed in the middle east. Would have been nice to come home !

Forgive me for asking. What is PFO?

Please :mad: off

A 'Patent Foramen Ovale' (PFO) is a defect in the septum (wall) between the two upper (atrial) chambers of the heart. Specifically, the defect is an incomplete closure of the atrial septum that results in the creation of a flap or a valve-like opening in the atrial septal wall.

Or in this context, 'Please :mad: Off'

Urban Dictionary: pfo

A letter of rejection.

Look at that .. you learn something new everyday.

Contributing to the thread then, I applied but didn't get PFOed. No news is good news?

NG with 1600 on type.

Perhaps they are after pilots with NG time, the above PFO's seem to be aimed at guys without, but I may be very wrong!

Scratch that, just looked back through the thread and found a few NG gus with PFO's, I should learn to read!

Why dont you PFO.
 

3000+ B737 hours. PFO ADCB

:ouch:

Are the PFO's coming by e-mail or are they on the application portal

via email. PFO is at least a little more polite than silence.

Has anyone received an invite yet? The PFOs that have been received so far, when did people apply? Are they working through in date order? Sorry to those that have got them, and good luck to those waiting.

How many pilots does Thomson now have on the seniority list?

About 785 down form 1100 odd at time of merger. Thomson had 750 pre merger. As we have pretty much absorbed an airline the size of First Choice we are now ready for expansion.

The tour operator is expanding quite a lot. As an airline though we are not expanding as much. Plan is for Thomson airways to provide around 75% of TUI Travel lift.

So Bluebaron.....Thomson "absorbed" an airline the size of First Choice? Interesting turn of phrase.

Forgive me for asking but I was convinced it was a "merger" ? ..........def:

"a statutory combination of two or more corporations by the transfer of the properties to one surviving corporation."

Good luck to all those have an interview or more. It's a good place to work, given the current financial climate. IMHO.

;)

Has anyone got an interview lined up yet or none been offered as yet?
3103

Nope
 

No news here.
Good luck to everyone.

Indeed, First Choice management now dominate Thomson - not that I am saying that is a bad thing or a good one :eek:

So if those guys got a PFO email, getting no response so far might be positive.

Rip Roar,

The point I was making is that Thomson has around 30 pilots more since the merger. Therefore by definition an airline the size of first choice has disappeared.

Someone asked a perfectly reasonable question regarding the airline size and I wont been drawn into a discussion regarding mergers etc......

Bluebaron,

I get the point you were making. Choice of words aludes to more.

Brgds,

1st 2nd officer
 

Does any one know what Thomson class as a 1st officer as opposed to a 2nd officer as they appear to be recruiting both and I have no idea how they classify these roles?

I believe that a First Officer is 1500 total time with 500+ on type, Second Officer is when one, or the other, or both is less. I'm not certain though.

PFO just received :sad:

Thanks for the info woolyalan. Sorry for your bad news.
I am still waiting to hear. Anyone been called for interview / assessment yet?

PFO also just recieved :sad: