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Stone Cold II
looks to me, like you are closing your eyes and ears? Don´t you seee where the company is trying to steer to? Maybe you are to often in your pub in Cardiff?:) (joking!) Of course EZY is at the moment a fairly safe company to be. What is nerving, is the propaganda machine (it´s becoming a little like "Scientology") about that "better place to work", etc. However, there are other companies which are are also settled in the economy! Maybe not only in the UK!?:eek: Of course, other pilots will fill the cockpit seats with EZY, when others are leaving! It´s everybody´s own decision to stay or to leave! The guys in the holding pool will love to see pilots leaving! That´s the aviation game!:ok: |
FO's are leaving due to lack of commands mainly with some of to BA having realised that low cost isn't much fun after a couple of years. Easy aspires to be Ryanair and is streets ahead of many in that race. The innovation is long gone. Just another airline with marginally better conditions than some due to union recognition. It's safe (for the forseeable) and definately not the worst (for the forseeable)
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Expansion? What about the four aircraft going to Malpensa by Jan 2009?
There are 11 there now and 15 to be there in Jan....i guess they will need crewed? Right? |
FO's are leaving due to lack of commands mainly with some of to BA having realised that low cost isn't much fun after a couple of years. |
"Isn't that a contradiction in terms; how can you disappear from Ezy to go and sit in the LHS at BA for another 15yrs ? "
I presume you mean RHS and the reasoning is simple. The only thing keeping many SFO's at Easyjet was the potential for a quick command. As that has now gone then so will they. BA RHS is not far off Easy Captain money. Long haul may not be what it used to be but the lifestyle is still preferable to a great many than being stuck in a manky 73 or bus doing 105hrs a month. Most Easyjet commands in future will be in non-uk bases too meaning a commute as well. |
Husky - I did mean RHS - finger trouble.
Yep....well lets hope that many SFOs at easy go to BA and then those coming in from the holding pool as direct entry SFOs get quick commands !! Things go full circle in many walks of life....... !! TJ |
Taiguin, the extra planes for MXP are comming from DTM and probably BRS, so they are already crewed.
The DTM captains have the choice between MXP, LTN or redudancy... For FO's: MXP, LTN, ORY or redundancy |
SpGo,
Out of interest, what redudancy or relocation package has ezy offered to crew that do not wish to re-locate? Hope things work out. |
TurboJ, if you are looking for a quick command forget it. I wouldn't come in with that attitude either nor cry about it when it doesn't happen. The days of quick commands in Easyjet are gone (well at least until the place is in such a mess that nobody at all wants to work for them)
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What precisely do you mean by "the days of quick command are gone"?
Once a senior F/O has the requisite 3,000 factored hours, how long is the average waiting time to get on a command course? What are the reasons for any delay? |
Husky one - "105 hours per month"
I can see how awful that would be, 8 1/2 months of work and then 3 1/2 months on full pay (obviously minus sector pay) not working. I work at easyJet and it is a simple fact that if one month you fly 105 hours then the next (or some subsequent month) you can only fly 45 to keep your monthly average to 75. 75 x 12 = 900. I wish our roster could allow us to fly this much and have 3 1/2 months off. This is the usual rubbish about flying 105 hours per month spouted by people who have probably not ever had to really work hard for a living. |
Husky one said: 105 hrs/ month
He did NOT say 105 hrs EVERY month! 105 hrs a month is happening. |
Unfortunately Kraut is right, some of us are flying 100 hours a month I have 95 this month but at some point I will have to fly low hour months to balance it out so it is all relative.
Once a senior F/O has the requisite 3,000 factored hours, how long is the average waiting time to get on a command course? What are the reasons for any delay? |
It is worth noting that last year we were desperate for captains and took on direct entry Embraer captains into the LHS. It was not a total success and we simultaneously took on a number of 5000hr+ SFOs from BMI and BA who were all hoping for quick commands. These experienced SFOs are top people and were frankly significantly better than the DECs - you can imagine how agrieved they felt at the situation. Nevertheless, they believed they would get quick commands but alas most, if not all, are still waiting. Such is the game of 'Snakes and Ladders' that is the airline industry. We right now have well over 100 SFOs in the command pool awaiting courses. In addition, we have a number of others awaiting selection who have been told 'no command assessment' during the summer. Those guys will shortly find themselves competing with the ex-GB FOs who are also champing at the bit to be promoted after their Ts&Cs are resolved. I understand some sort of 'deal' is being discussed with BALPA to ensure they get their place somewhere in the queue. Taken together, anyone who joins easyJet right now hoping for a quick command is going to be sadly disappointed. There is a long queue and the signs are that there will be a significantly reduced requirement for captains next year. I am not blaming anyone for the situation, but that is nonetheless the way it is. Finally, our Lords and Masters look like they are about to try and pull a fast one in terms of cutting our pay and a big battle is looming. The cabin crew are already in it and need to wise up sharpish to what is going on - alas the signs are not good and I sincerely hope they have the backbone for a fight because they are going to need it. All in all, let the buyer beware!
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Easy jet Assessments
Hi Guys,
I wasn't 100% sure if this would be the right place to post this: but direct me elsewhere if i'm in the wrong place! Could anyone offer me details about the assessment process which is conducted for flight deck at the EZY interview please? Typical interview questions, typical tech questions and best place to read up on them prior, and the group excercise? Thanks in advance, :ok: PS. PM if you could, that would be best. Thanks! |
wingandprayer - Just listen to the 'noises' right now from Head Office. Our 'senior managers' have taken a pay freeze (albeit immediately after they had received their bonuses and annual pay rise!). Fuel is expensive, our share price is low etc, etc. Cabin Crew are being forced onto a random roster pattern. Quote me on this later in the year, but I reckon it is a racing certainty that we will be threatened with either job cuts, changes to conditions or pay freezes/reductions. What we have to be really wary of is the fact that we are actually going to make a profit this year. If this is what is happening now we should be alarmed at what would happen with an actual annual loss. In short, we should not move one inch from the pay deal offered to us (RPI+0.5%). I can guarantee if fuel dropped in price by 50% and we made twice the expected profit, then tried to get more money in October, it would be a very short meeting indeed with our management. I trust that when the inevitable call to BALPA is made, it will be an equally short encounter!
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:{Anyone with some news from the deck ? for this winter ? still in the pool:{:{
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Has anyone been for an assessment recently?
Could someone who's just been give us a quick summary on the latest process? Thanks a lot! |
2 new aircraft a month.....
but recruitment freeze.......
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What do you mean by "recruitment freeze"?
Do mean hiring freeze or selection freeze? Is that a fact? Or just rumors.... Thanks |
What would the situation be for someone who was waiting for the result from the Sim assessment? Any chance at all now of a place in the hold pool or forget about it :{
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Hi Akro,
I had my assesment recently. Do you have an assessment coming up? If, so I will go thru the latest stuff. Read the Stuff on group exercises (BA Thread), Pass the Cathay Pacific Interview ( Tech Paper), and most importantly get the stuff on the Interview sorted out. Si |
All DEP pilots in hold pool with Emb 145 experience now "not suitable" for DEP - only being offerred TRSS. That's after some of us waiting for over a year in the pool. Broken promises. Very disappointing.
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Hi solo si 2,
Is it still: -Tech Paper -Psychological Questions paper -Group Exercise -Ability Test -Interview and if succesessfull on those....: -Sim Check Appreciate all the info you can give! Thanks in advance. |
RE: EMB145:
One got in DEP the other TRSS - both were captains but for different airlines! |
FO's and taxiing
Bit off-topic but thought this was a good a place as any to ask.... Does EZY allow its FO's to taxi the aircraft or is it a Captains Only duty?
Just curious |
On his sector F/O does everything apart from :Welcome PA, Sign tech log and parking the a/c.
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Does EZY allow its FO's to taxi the aircraft |
In case anyone is wondering - no on the Boeing because there's no steering tiller on the FO side!
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And no parking on the airbus because most dockingsystem's are calibrated for LHS only. How about rejected take off's? In my airline no rejected take off's to f/o's , but every parking manouvre allowed to him if suitable visual aids are availabe. Thanks |
LHS park the A/C regardless.
RTO actioned by LHS only. MF |
The company recruited too many DEC last year already, whilst there were SFO:s undergoing cmd assessments. The company needed captains very quick so thats why they employed so many DEC. Too many, with the results in their hands.
Today there are a lot of SFO:s waiting for a cmd course, both on the boeing and on the airbus. I think the total amount of SFO:s waiting for a course start is about 50. One friend of mine is nr 45, so minimum 50 anyway. Although the company has now employed DEC anyway, but from CTC instead. The official comment was that they didnt see the "desperate" need in the middle of summer, but on Aug 1 there was this huge need suddenly. The unofficial report seems to be that since the company pays CTC to train a certain amount of pilots each year (now there is no training done at all and therefore the instructors dont have anything to do) easyjet has tried to use up the money spent on CTC by making them fly on line as captains.:rolleyes: For how long no one really knows, but it seems to be for some months. :confused: Thats the way to do it, if you want to keep your pilots in the comany. Or not. := Good luck :suspect: |
The company recruited too many DEC last year already, whilst there were SFO:s undergoing cmd assessments. The company needed captains very quick so thats why they employed so many DEC. Too many, with the results in their hands. Today there are a lot of SFO:s waiting for a cmd course, both on the boeing and on the airbus. I think the total amount of SFO:s waiting for a course start is about 50. One friend of mine is nr 45, so minimum 50 anyway. Although the company has now employed DEC anyway, but from CTC instead. The official comment was that they didnt see the "desperate" need in the middle of summer, but on Aug 1 there was this huge need suddenly. The unofficial report seems to be that since the company pays CTC to train a certain amount of pilots each year (now there is no training done at all and therefore the instructors dont have anything to do) easyjet has tried to use up the money spent on CTC by making them fly on line as captains. For how long no one really knows, but it seems to be for some months. Thats the way to do it, if you want to keep your pilots in the comany. Or not. Can anyone else confirm it? If it is true it's really sad. |
With regards to the list for CMD course I would say its closer to 150-200....not 50...
As far as the CTC captains there are still a lot of rumours around and no real facts, BALPA has been involved lately and we are waiting further information. Company has confirmed that CTC captains were used as a temporary solution, for reason I can't remember at the moment, but one was given. Whatever reason, short or long term, I think it is totaly unacceptable in any case. od |
Viking 101.
At least 140 SFO's on the waiting list is what I heard yesterday........ |
Five 2003 A319-111 (specific easyjet A319 with 156Y) are for sale (source : http://www.speednews.com/EquipmentRe...&Aircraft=A319 ). Fleet management ?
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I can confirm that there are 6 CTC instructors flying on line on the 737. There are some CTC instructors on the 319 too, but I cant confirm how many they are.
The fun part is that depending on which department you talk to, they give you different answers on why the CTC guys are working for Ezy. Seems not to be to much of communication in between the departments. :ugh: |
.....and isn't that so unfair for the SFO's waiting for the upgrade that BALPA cannot do anything about it?
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BALPA are too busy "keeping their powder dry" waiting for the "big one". Whatever that may be.
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It has been rumoured that Ezy are due to make an announcement tomorrow
"Which will change the face of the company"!!!!! Possible to do with the Stelios court case. Whatch this space |
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