Winch Launch, LYS and CDG are not yet pilot bases, but will probably become pilot bases sometime in the future. Rumour has it, that a lot of the ex-Sabena guys want to transfer from Orly to CDG if and when it opens as a pilot base.

There is a considerable holding pool in EZY right now and I suspect the company has received quite a few applications from ex-Zoom, XL and Sterling pilots by now. Newcastle, Belfast and Luton are the 737 bases right now.

I know that there is a considerable waiting list for Basel and I do think that it will take quite a while to get Génève as well.

Take home pay (i.e. after taxes) will be around 3000-3300 pounds/month in the UK depending on hours flown .

there is a rumour at the minute that not all the cadets are being kept on this year. About 20 of them may be laid off for winter and brought back in spring. I should imagine they will take preference over the hold pool until they are reconciled. Demand for commands will vastly exceed supply next year so any potential DEC's will need a liferaft in that pool. I can't see them offering much choice of fleets either. 737 is shorter on crews. When you're on it you'll be fleet frozen for 3 years unless it suits the company so the chances of being stuck on it are large. The european contracts seem to be in vogue at the minute..particularly MXP.

Flying Clara you are such a wind up merchant. We all know that you are being sent out to the desert to fly for the airline that easy has trained you so well for. That's the only reason they trained you after all wasn't it? You get to go fly for the airline you've been preassigned and easy makes some 'easy' money (ha ha excuse the pun ha ha :rolleyes:) Forget about DEP or TRSS, I have heard easy might be interested in you for another hundred or so hours if you've got another £30k though?

I am afraid QAFPS is right.

Careful QAFPS... I've heard that these ATP guys and possibly girl :mad: are well below standard that EZY normally expect.... Still in this game money talks. I think the 'trained well' bit is only from the EZY side.

Off you trot to the desert Clara...

I do agree though she (he or it) is one wind up merchant of the lowest form :yuk::yuk:

You assume you will waltz through the interview and sim ride Clara, rather presumptuous :O

DEP requirements:
Rated on either Boeing 737 - 300 to 900 or Airbus A319/320/321 with more than 50 line flying hours on type
Rated on a medium to heavy jet with more than 500 hours Multi-crew commercial experience

On the basis that Easy have cv's coming out of the walls at the minute, there are several hundred rated NG pilots about and we're overcrewed on the bus, I'd keep taking the tablets Clara.

You'll be behind 22 others before you make it out of the pool.

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know how many are in the Hold Pool at the moment? I was interviewed in July 08 and was successful to go on the list for MXP.

Guys we all know the current situation in aviation isn't very good at the moment, however, we must stay positive, especially for those poor people who have just lost their jobs with XL,Zoom Etc.

Good luck to everyone doing their best...things will turnaround for the better!!

S.;)

In Agreement With Mercinary Pilot
 

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News to me!

I think you'll find it's Type Rating Sponsorship Scheme, but I've noticed your a tad useless when it comes to details, Clara . . . :rolleyes:

Hi all,

I am another DEP bus rated, swimming with a label dated August 2008 and i request MPX, MAD and London (I don't remember which 1:p)

Few days ago i called the recruitment dep. and they told me that they were arranging a course for December 2008; the really kind woman i spoke with answered to my question about when it would have been started, she replied me that it wasn't possible to make a forecast, but she told me that anyway they would like to arrange another course in spring 2009 and as I understood the range of the date to start for me should be from DEC 2008 to sping 2010.

A guy 737 type rated who had the assessment in the same day was told maybe spring 2009, but most probably spring 2010.

My contract is going to expyre by the end of October :ugh:

Has anyone an idea about what my position in the pool could be?

Keeping swimming :uhoh:

Spare a thought for us DEC's, I was assessed Dec 06, yes DEC 06, and while waiting for easy took a job at XL ..... last I heard was that there would be no job for me till the end of 2009 or possibly 2010. Think I might need a lifejacket!

I don't think they'll be hiring in easy over the winter period and even maybe for next summer. They've apparently asked people if they want to take unpaid leave over winter. As for DEC's their command list is long so I don't think there'll be any for a few years to come. But if times change then so will all this.....

Spare a thought for us DECs?

Spare a thought for us DECs?

Spare a thought for us DECs?

Ok, here is my spare thought: 140+ SFOs waiting for their command with required hours etc and easyJet are still hiring DECs. Go find your local jobcentre.

Screwballs.

totally uncalled for!

Clearly this guy was interviewed when the company had a requirement for DEC's. Hardly his fault that EZY scewed up the figures (again). There wasn't 140 command ready SFO's back then. Command is not a god-given right. You have to earn it first...then pass it :rolleyes:

I totally agree. But should someone come in here asking us for some kind of sympathy? And it is not Dec 06 now, it's Sep 08. We don't DECs right now.

S.

or for the next 140 commands, or for those when the next batch of F/Osget onto the command course.

FPS

I think quick commands at easy are a thing of the past. Just be thankful you are in employment with reasonably safe prospects. I cannot see a huge recruitment drive happening soon either.

These years with low recruitment rates will see a lot of SFOs reach the required hours for command well before command positions are available, so hopefully command positions will be taken up internally.

FD3S,

I'm sorry if my post seemed unsympathetic or malicious. We currently have 140 FOs in the command pool. This number will only grow over the winter as first officers undergo the command assessment sims that were cancelled over the summer to keep the crews on-line for the peak season.

It was wrong of Ezy to offer you DEC when we have enough talent within the company to fill command positions. As a consequence, you have made decisions with the knowledge that a DEC position was available, hence joining XL.

Hope you get a job soon, :ok:- even join Ezy in the RHS and go through the Command selection process and join the pool of talent that we already possess.

Sorry, but I think we need to look after our current employees first and it is unfair to deny them the career progress that many have paid for and stayed for!

FPS

I entered the DEC hold pool after FD3S. Some months ago I did just as you suggested regarding an FO's position which I would happily have accepted with no gripes. I received a (brief) reply that started "regretfully" - I'll leave you to guess the rest. Any pointers as to why this is the case?

flying clara: I have sent you a private message, please read and reply.


Thanks.

H.

There will be no upgrades for the 140+ SFO:s that are waiting for a cmd course for a long time; ezy training dept has agreed with CTC to have some instructors flying online as captains. From the beginning it was said just for the last part of the summer, then just spetember but it has been prolonged and it seems they are staying for the winter. :ouch:

It is said this is because CTC doesnt have much going on right now so this is to keep CTC busy. And it costs ezy lots of money every day. :mad:

Now there are a few DEC hired by ezy, but on contracts via CTC as organisation. Its all a big circus. :suspect:

The company has once again put their own pilots down; they prefere employing DEC from "friendly" organisations instead of promoting internal pilots that have been put through the long and tough selection process. :yuk: This is of course good for the DECs; not having to go through this process- its hard. Really hard. :ugh:

Fingers crossed that this stops soon.

What you are talking about little baby you have 300H TT AND 50h on bus.

You are pissing everybody off here with your bull!!!!s.

Someday Easyjet will require DEC's again. That'll be around the time when the terms and conditions have been degraded to a level that makes Ryanair look good. I think that'll take a while though.
Viking101 you are incorrect. Read your BALPA newsletter :hmm:

Flying Clara... oh my oh my... :ugh: Please stay away from this site ok?

orangetree, no I am not incorrect. I have talked to BALPA about this for long and they have achieved... nothing , zip, zero, nada. They are not interested in this matter. And yes, I have read the newsletter. Unfortunatly. :ouch:

Why does ezy have to recruit DEC´s when there are so many to recruit internally? Some of the DEC´s the company has employed has not been up to standard at all thus much better promoting people who has experience in flying for ezy and 737/319 hours too.

DEC´s are a last resort to aquire enough crew, not to piss off its own pilots.:mad:

Mercenary Pilot- excellent picture :D

Flying Clara

grow up. I know you are new in the business but likewise, just because you have 10.000hrs + you can still be a crap captain, right? And believe me, there are a few "old and experienced" around that really should not sit in the LHS. :hmm:

I guess you are only doing your TR still, but once you are out on the line flying with LC, you will see for yourself.

For me anyway I do already have experience in the LHS so its not new to me. But why this assumption of yours?

Would you care to explain how you will ever be able to get a LHS if your company keeps employing DEC´s? :ugh: This is of course, if you pass all the assessments and seen as mature. I would say you have some more years before that happens.

End of this topic. Over and out.

Clara,

go and get some help.

Please.

:ugh:

Where was that ignore button again?....

Viking, grow up. You have LHS experience yet you somehow cannot comprehend the scenario behind the temporary CTC captains. Looks pretty simple to me..company cock up summer figures as usual, try to pull a quick fix, union catches on, company agree to stop. Do you really think they would suddenly have laid on command courses instead just to keep you happy and in mid summer, leaving them short of FO's? I'd sharpen up your thinking before any command course or you will get burned :ugh:

Providing that there are no catastrophic aviational/economical meltdowns, I don’t see how easyjet could not hire DEC in the future with 120 Airbus on order. Even with 140 First Officers shortlisted for command (bearing in mind 20% or so will probably fail the command course) they are going to need a colossal amount of crew in years to come. Just do the maths.

Non sense discussions!!! How do you loose your time with tremendous bull !!!!... I believe that all of you should work a little bit more!

Hear Hear, stop clogging what was once a useful thread with all these pointless tit-for-tat rants.

And stop rising to Clara's bait, just ignore its posts.

Back to topic from now on...

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Flying Clara, I love the picture, but I don't think I would fly with any airline where the wings badge incorporated a parachute!

Fastidious,

Don't forget as time goes by more people will be ready for command. Furthermore don't forget all Boeings will in time be replaced by Airbus. That's about 35 Airbusses being used only to replace another A/C type = No expansion.

Yes I'm sure DEC will come back to EZY, not many- and not for a long time.

The Flying Cokeman

120-35=85. 85=expansion