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Cloud Bunny 23rd March 2008 21:09

You're a good man, thanks for the heads up. Hope I get an interview!!!:uhoh:

Kempus 31st March 2008 12:15

Hey folks!

Anymore news? Its been so long since my interview but can anyone remind me what the roster pattern is like in mainline?

Kempus

acbus1 31st March 2008 13:15


I hope they give more than 24 hours notice though!! Ouch!
All good practice for the sort of notice of roster changes you can expect.






Actually, that's not quite true.........







........you'll get much shorter notice of roster changes. :p

Cloud Bunny 4th April 2008 15:56

Well, my few mates that are in the airline at the mo don't seem to complain about roster changes - maybe they're just lucky. I get dikced around a lot more than they seem to.
Anyhow, hows it all looking? Any new info out in the open?

CarltonBrowne the FO 4th April 2008 19:01

At the risk of being boring (again), for all those in the holding pool who may have course starts coming up...
...if this is your first multi-pilot type, it is a LASORS requirement that your IR is current before starting the course. The precise LASORS reference is in the first page or two of the thread. After waiting so long, it would be a real killer to be sent away on day one...

speedtouch 5th April 2008 09:55

Update.... any good...
 
Having spoken to the man who knows about these things.....the topic of recruitment naturally came up..He said that "of course, he cannot guarantee anything, hence caution is the order of the day; but as it stands currently - bmi will require significant numbers of FO's in the next 9-10 months starting now."

Read this how you will, [positive I would suggest for those of you who are waiting], but as always if another job comes up first TAKE IT. MHO anyway.

Just thought it would be nice to update you....so please do not query, its just what he said. You may also want to know that there is still a trickle of FO's leaving at the moment -mostly BA/Easy and Mid-East before you ask.
Good luck to all.....:ok:

Blue Baron 6th April 2008 11:34

Thats very strange as when I spoke to 'the man in the know' this week he said no recruiting for the next 12 months??

As the 757's are on a damp lease why would we need to recruit? Damp lease's come with pilots!

K.Whyjelly 7th April 2008 01:17

My man in the know from the training dept says that 14 new guys to be trained from the pool between now and August. Just the messenger so don't shoot me (down):}

Cloud Bunny 7th April 2008 12:24


bmi will require significant numbers of FO's in the next 9-10 months starting now."


no recruiting for the next 12 months??
:mad::mad::mad: :{:{ :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

Swimming 7th April 2008 12:27

bmi regional
 
Anyone know if there is going to be any movement soon in the bmi Regional holding pool.

bmibus 13th April 2008 14:35

bmi mainline
 
The course planned for the 23rd April has def been cancled! Only a few weeks ago I was told that most in the pool would be used by Dec 08, but who knows... There maybe hope for the mid may course but again who knows....

Regards

RotaxG1 13th April 2008 16:30

bmibus,

do you know if people had been given a start date and signed a contract for the cancelled course?

Cloud Bunny 13th April 2008 17:43

Why the cancellation? :mad::mad::mad::*

bmibus 16th April 2008 13:36

Honest answer is I don't know if people were given start dates, but I don't think so.

Regards

tonyic7 16th April 2008 17:40

Last hold pool e-mail received mentioned one more coure (still to be announced) to make up summer numbers. Refereing to bmibus post 13th Apr, it mentions two dates, presumably two courses (this info is after hold pool e-mail). Anyone know if there are now plans for two courses or still just the one?

Thanks......

Kempus 27th April 2008 11:58

Hello!

Any more news yet? Quick question, with Lufthansa showing an intrest in buying bmi along with other airlines what would happen in the event of a buy out to those in the pool?

Just a general question which may relate to other airlines as well.

cheers!

SinBin 27th April 2008 17:41

Not likely in the near future mate, SMB is more interested in buying rather than selling.

Cloud Bunny 7th May 2008 09:11

Any news? Keep updating my hours on the application and starting to develop a twitch! All seems to have quiet on the Lufthansa front as well.

bmibus 16th May 2008 18:56

I believe there is only one course now in June as there were two planned, which starts around the 8th of June.

Todders 28th May 2008 14:23

Any news anyone??

funky monkey 28th May 2008 14:51

dont do it!
save urself before you career motivation and desire is whipped out of you:}

Hotel Uniform Yankee 28th May 2008 18:30

bmi regional
 
Any news on any movement in the regional holding pool.

Kempus 29th May 2008 08:59

was not good news regarding the mainline holdpool today! :{

Cloud Bunny 29th May 2008 09:29

Care to elaborate?

Todders 29th May 2008 21:59

kempy manchester drinks soon!!

Kempus 29th May 2008 23:33

"recruitment freeze in all departments" "further expansion unlikely" "any pilot intoduction limited at best"

These phrases and others used. :(

Toddy was just about to drop you a line! Good shout! Lets do Chester, fit birds apparently! ha ha!

speedtouch 30th May 2008 09:48

Keeping a lid on costs!
 
I second Kempus....recently asked for a friend and was told in no uncertain terms that there is very little chance. This, despite bmi losing '2-3' pilots/month! - the primary concern at the moment is to try to keep a lid on costs -all costs.

You may be aware that today SilverJet has also recently gone to the wall [Very Sad] but it will of course release a small number of pilots with many hours on jet -btw Silverjet won't be the last to go.....

For those in the hold pool...some advice:

1) Keep everything up to date -as things can and do change at bmi at v short notice.

2) Don't hold your breath - thats not meant to be taking the mick - try EZY, Jet2 etc. - but if you have lower hours try to get any flying job eg. jump schools, instructing, Eastern - Flybe -Loganair [don't be so stubborn that you will only fly a 'Jet'.

If you can politely knock on the door or arrange an introduction that is often good - if not then every couple of months remind them you are still alive. I recently met a new FO for whom bmi is his first job who said that he had been waiting in the hold pool for a while - but had turned down another prop job in the mean time.....IMHO that is foolish....but he was lucky.

You may choose to ignore this advice or think that it does not apply to you .....but just to remind everyone currently WITHOUT A FLYING JOB that the economy is not great, cash flow and savings for both individuals and companies is limited, revenues/profits are down and fuel is at at near $1400/tonne. So be prepared to be flexible [any base any aircraft any company] and importantly be ready to move fast if an opportunity does occur!
Good Luck to all.:ugh:

TurboJ 2nd June 2008 15:38


but had turned down another prop job in the mean time.....IMHO that is foolish....but he was lucky.
Foolish, very foolish - but like so many from the branded FTOs - only Boeing or Airbus will do.

Cloud Bunny 3rd June 2008 10:23

Is this recruitment freeze due solely to cost cutting and trying to survive through the current climate or is this with a view to preparing the company for takeover?

SinBin 3rd June 2008 16:23

Keeping costs to a min due increasing oil prices...........in a nutshell. Cheaper to buy days off than recruit.

CarltonBrowne the FO 23rd June 2008 18:01

As speedtouch says, keep everything current. Learning German might not be a bad move, either!;)

Professor Fog 27th June 2008 09:24

For you Topslide6 the bmi is over.....

ve are in charge now ! schnell !! schnell !!

fly616 5th July 2008 14:23

Sim Ride
 
Can anyone let me know what is involved in the bmi Regional sim check?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

SinBin 5th July 2008 20:27

This is a mainline thread about the holdpool, suggest you try on a Regional thread.

K.Whyjelly 5th July 2008 21:54

Like here.....................

http://www.pprune.org/forums/terms-e...-regional.html

or here..........................

http://www.pprune.org/forums/terms-e...-regional.html

enwon 8th July 2008 18:23

Hi guys, I've recently (april) started at bmi after being in the hold pool since July last year. I know some of you guys in the pool so thought I would share a conversation I had with BB in the crewroom about two weeks ago. When I asked him about the holdpool he assured me it would remain in place due to the efforts taken to create it.
He recommended that in the current climate the best thing to do would be to have a job in the industry. Examples given were as cabin crew or dispatchers. The reason given was that when recruitment does start again then it usually takes place internally first and even if it doesn't then at least you hear about it first. Also the experience will serve you greatly when you are eventually sat on the right side of a closed flightdeck door.

Hope this info is of some use.

keepitlit 8th July 2008 18:57

As much as you are trying to help, I wouldnt take this advice, I would look to maintaining flying skills like being an instructor or Aerial photography, I have seen this route taken before with little/no success, flying is the name of the game (not being flown) even if you have to do it for very little or free until you get a break.

Oh and it hasnt happened too often in bmi

Regards

Keepitlit

Todders 12th July 2008 20:54

Hey guys how the swimming going??

Any Thoughts?

Branson predicts "Spectacular Casualties in the Airline Industry"
Virgin boss Sir RB predicts a high profile casualty in the US......any takers??? And what future for big players in Europe with this 'perfect storm' scenario quoted in his article?


LONDON (Reuters) - There will be "spectacular casualties" in the
airline industry over the next 12 months, billionaire Richard Branson, the owner of Britain's No. 2 long-haul airline Virgin Atlantic, was quoted as saying on Saturday.


http://row.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=IxBFNlf4...829992%2fV%3d1
The U.S. airline industry -- including Virgin America -- has been battered by soaring fuel costs that are pinching even the healthiest airlines.
"The financial state of the world is just about the worst I've ever known it," Branson told The Times newspaper in an interview. "It's getting perilously close to being worse than the 1990s.
"You have the perfect storm -- you've not only got the banking crisis and the housing crisis, you've got the soaring fuel prices as well. One of the big American carriers will almost definitely go."
Branson confirmed Virgin was interested in buying British airline bmi, 50 percent plus one share owned by entrepreneur Sir Michael Bishop.
The carrier has long been expected to change ownership in 2009 due to a private agreement between Bishop and 30 percent minus one share co-owner Lufthansa.
Despite barely making a profit in 2007 -- and with the outlook far worse for 2008 -- bmi's value is in its control of 11 percent of the highly prized airline slots at Heathrow.
The billionaire also called for an end to BAA's monopoly of Britain's major airports.
Part of Spain's Ferrovial since 2006, BAA has owned the three main airports serving London -- Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted -- as well as Scotland's Edinburgh and Glasgow airports since it floated over 20 years ago.
"It's been embarrassing to be British looking at foreigners queuing up to come into the country," said Branson.
"I certainly think that BAA should be broken up. Each individual terminal at Heathrow should be privatised so they can compete against each other. BAA just creams off more and more every year."
Britain's Competition Commission is investigating whether problems faced by airline travellers through Britain, as highlighted by the chequered opening of Heathrow's Terminal 5, are caused or exacerbated by BAA's monopoly.


Know it's not the newest of info just thought i'd promote some further thought about it or other options. Will the saleout happen and will we have a chance to get a job first? Or after?

Count von Altibar 12th July 2008 21:51

Keepitlit is correct. Get a flying (piloting) job if you can and I wouldn't hang around waiting for bmi. Be proactive and seek any flying job you can grab, tough times are ahead for all airlines.

Kempus 13th July 2008 12:39

Last time I spoke to BB he was saying that it could be spring 09 before any movement.

Being in a hold pool does not make you an asset of the airline so if a buyout went ahead :ouch:

Grab any jobs that are going, there's a chance we'll see $200 a barrell before the end of the year and 500hrs experience is worth a hell of a lot more than none!

kempus


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