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Flightlevel001 5th February 2008 20:17

Does anyone know how many people bmi are planning on putting through a TR per month once the system gets flowing again? Am I right in thinking its about 4 per course?

I just wanted to get an idea as to how things are going to pan out if they do decide to re-start recruitment.... Are those courses planned in April still a rumour or can they be substantiated by someone? Its been pretty quiet on the western front for some time...

Keep smiling boys and girls ;-)

speedtouch 5th February 2008 22:13

...just a little longer
 
I am afraid I can't answer your questions ref: applications. However, I will re-iterate like 'bmibus' that there is still a trickle of people leaving. I know one Capt that is just finishing [or maybe just has?!] another who has recently handed his notice in and from recollection 5 x FO's [1 x Senior] all who are just working notice or waiting final contract details from the next employer. [FYI. it seems to be BA or the Mid East popular at the moment!]

This post is not meant to be good or bad - just what I hear.....so for those that have been patient for so long ....just a little longer and I wish you all the very best of luck with your career.

Regards to all,

Speedtouch.;)

Canada Goose 6th February 2008 09:53

So is anyone able to confirm if the online application with BMI that seems to be open at the moment is genuine. I've completed about half of it and have been too busy to complete the rest of it. It would be a shame to continue spending time fillng it out only to get to the end and have ot crash or find out BMI had made a mistake and it shouldn't be open !??

Cheers,
CG.

Flightlevel001 6th February 2008 11:13

Unconfirmed but I think its not active. But would have thought it would be taken down if it was... A friend of mine has been told that it was put up in error. Another guy also said that most of the F/D recruitment team have all gone on holiday whilst its quiet so that explains the lack of info but not the website... Perhaps its been put up for testing before bmi announce another round of recruiting. Who knows?

Canada Goose 6th February 2008 12:48

Thanks FL - the your mileage backs up what has been written in the "Interviews" forum. However, not sure I will take the chance but I will be mightly peeved if after spending several hours it goes pear shaped. Then again, getting used to that kind of thing now !! :*:rolleyes:

tonyic7 6th February 2008 17:35

Just a quick one, the last e-mail received by BB had 33 e-mail addresses. I believe some people have obtained recruitment elsewhere so wondered what the actual figure is?

Cloud Bunny 7th February 2008 12:27

So is this definitive then? The application form is up in error and it's a complete utter waste of time filling it in? I really feel for you guys in the pool - so many false dawns it must be driving you mental. I really hope they pull their finger out soon and decide what to do and either give us reason to keep plugging away or just jack it in and move on, I'm getting fed up now :mad::*.
Rant over, sorry!:O

acbus1 10th February 2008 16:21


I really hope they pull their finger out soon and decide what to do.....
You don't know them very well, do you? :rolleyes:

Cloud Bunny 12th February 2008 11:48


You don't know them very well, do you?
Guess not. Probably will never have the need to get to know them either. :ugh:
Although, heres a question. Say you've filled out the application form (I haven't - yet - but will do) and submitted it. You sit around for what feels like eternity and then in...November say, they decide to recruit. Do you have the opportunity to update your application form to show your increase in hours or any other change in circumstances or do you just do a whole new one at the time? Just curious because I can see this being an awful long wait before there is any sort of movement. :(

scudbus258 13th February 2008 19:44

Not Good
 
Bmi announced today (13 February) that is to lease two Boeing 757-200 aircraft from its Heathrow operation as it continues the search for larger machines.

The need for extra capacity has come about since bmi’s takeover of Bmed, which has seen the Heathrow-based airline take on a significantly enhanced network.

Bmi has no current 757s in its fleet and to avoid any maintenance over-complication, will ‘damp lease’ both 757 aircraft from Astraeus as it ramps up services to Tel Aviv and Freetown (Sierra Leone), among others.

The new aircraft will also allow bmi to upgrade its schedule, with new non-stop links to Almaty in Kazakhstan and Freetown from 1 May and increased Israeli frequency that will see six flights per week operate from Heathrow.

Using the new 757s will also enable schedule changes to bmi’s existing A321 operations, with flights from Heathrow to Ekaterinburg and Yerevan now not operating to destinations beyond those cities to improve point to point capacity.

“We strongly believe that in order to continue the development of the mid-haul network, now is the time to upgrade capacity and the aircraft range on certain routes that will clearly benefit from non-stop services,” said bmi CEO Nigel Turner.

“We also think it’s important to make the timing improvements we have identified in order to maximise their convenience and competitiveness.”

Bmi’s move has also been prompted by its continuing difficulties in obtaining the right long-haul A330 aircraft it is seeking. A spokesman confirmed to ABTN that “it’s difficult to say – we have been out in the market for A330s and we will continue to look.”

The carrier needs a further two long-range aircraft to improve its Heathrow operation, but it appears this may be some way off.

Bmi’s decision to acquire Bmed resulted in a huge expansion of the carrier’s network and had the effect of delaying any implementation of transatlantic services from Heathrow as a result of Open Skies liberalisation.

“The delivery of suitable A330 aircraft is a little way off and we don’t want to delay the range of service enhancements unveiled today,” said Turner.

“By leasing the two 757s, pending the sourcing of suitable A330s, we are able to accelerate our Heathrow growth and ensure we can maintain the momentum of our mid-haul route strategy.”

Bmi says its new Bmed routes “are performing extremely well” with strong passenger growth revenue growth.

The two Boeing aircraft featuring business and economy cabins, will be leased for an initial two-year period, with an option to extend.

From ABTN

Mister Geezer 15th February 2008 01:28

Last time bmi leased a 757 it created the final chapter in the Manchester - Washington route. Suppose that was a tad different since you were crossing the pond and they actually downsized in aircraft type from A330 to B757.

However premium pax hate wet/damp leasing because in their eyes, it is just not the same!

junglie-driver 16th February 2008 11:25

Any updates???
 
Must be time for another update from BB soon. Has there been any more rumours about the possibility of courses starting again in April. Hopefully there is still light at the end of the tunnel. JD

scudbus258 26th February 2008 11:05

bmi Mainline
 
Anyone have any news?

Flightlevel001 28th February 2008 15:56

I'd take that as a no... :ugh:

tonyic7 28th February 2008 16:10

JD and Flight level, how long have you guys been in the pool? I've been in since Aug 07. Heard that the pool is down to at least 18 now and possibly less? Also heard from an F/O at BMI that they are buying back hols... A good sign??

Danger_Mouse 28th February 2008 16:22

I have been in since July! Not got any idea of numbers but I assume a lot of guys will have had to have got employment elsewhere!

Count von Altibar 28th February 2008 17:23

There's some chartering this summer which should stretch the numbers a bit so possible movement in the not too distant future. Wouldn't hang around though, grab anything similar if the opportunity presents itself!

look you 6th March 2008 19:22

bmi are definitely starting the sausage machine again. 4/month throughout the summer, first course starting imminently.

Hotel Uniform Yankee 6th March 2008 19:52

I take it you are referring to bmi mainline and not regional.
Has anyone got any news on the Regional holding pool.

TurboJ 7th March 2008 20:16

look you..........good rumour -----or do you have specialist knowledge??

Max Angle 8th March 2008 09:32

With the normal health warning that this is not from horses mouth but crew room chat: BB has apparently said that he will be taking people from the hold pool during the summer and new interviews starting August / September time so things look like they will start moving shortly.

Wilton Shagpile 8th March 2008 09:40

BMI Regional....well there is a element of conflicting information but it seems they are currently over-crewed but will be back on track by the Summer. There is very little turnover at present so I guess it will take some natural wasteage before people start being taken on again.

Maybe later this year, early next......who knows???

king surf 8th March 2008 09:41

It's like watching paint dry!!

Cloud Bunny 8th March 2008 18:42

Or waiting for the hangman! :uhoh:
Seriously though lets hope that all this comes to something not just from a selfish point of view that I might get an interview but for all the guys who have been swimming for so long.
Hell, Barnsley just beat Chelsea - anythings possible. :ok:

Kempus 13th March 2008 13:43

Hey guys,

Out of interest how many are starting on the mainline course next week??

kempus

Geoff565 13th March 2008 14:54

Kempus, I am led to believe there are 4 of us. Keep positive, things appear to be moving!

king surf 13th March 2008 15:14

You guys have the patience of a Saint:DBMI does nothing in a hurry,for the first commands went through recently after 7 years.

Cloud Bunny 13th March 2008 15:21

So is this definitive then? Things are in motion? Thats very good news. Now, I asked this question a while ago:

Do you have the opportunity to update your application form to show your increase in hours or any other change in circumstances or do you just do a whole new one at the time?
Does anyone know the answer? I have a few more hours and have a new address.
Thanks for any info.:ok:

Kempus 13th March 2008 20:33

hey geoff!

thanks for that! bet your well glad to get started! just trying to get an idea of the length of time till we all get started!

fingers crossed it'll be 2008!

kempus

scudbus258 13th March 2008 21:12

bmi mainline
 
I just got the contract today to start on the 7th April, things are def moving!!!

keepitlit 14th March 2008 06:57

Things are about to move alot quicker!

Regards

Keepitlit

Flightlevel001 15th March 2008 10:59


Things are about to move alot quicker!
Why so?

Things seem to be looking a little better now, will there be courses that are run consecutively into the forseeable future or was this course just a one off? There can't be that many people still in the hold pool by now surely...? :)

J4007 15th March 2008 16:01

I for one would love to know how many of us there are. On the last e mail from BB I counted 24 names. Not even sure where I am on that list but have been in since Aug 07. For you guys starting on 7th of April, how long a wait has it been for you?

scudbus258 15th March 2008 23:36

Been in the pool since last week of June, finaly starting on 7th. I'm sure its not going to be long now!

Horsefly99 17th March 2008 15:31

Apparently a course of 4 this week, followed by another course of 4 in April. :ok:

Good luck to those who've got the call

xwindflirt 17th March 2008 16:23

possibly more interviews soon too... good luck all:ok:

Cloud Bunny 17th March 2008 16:39


possibly more interviews soon too
Anything a bit more concrete? This has been rumoured for a while which leads one to suspect that this is not some knee jerk reaction to people leaving/retiring etc, they seem to be working to a plan.
Would be good to know if interviews are definately in the pipe line over the next few months so can start dusting off a bit of interview technique and tech knowledge in the hope of getting somewhere!!

xwindflirt 17th March 2008 18:25

I would do that..... though its a good idea not to let it slip anyway. I ve been given less than 24 hours notice for an interview more than once.:eek:

Cloud Bunny 23rd March 2008 18:10

Xwind, I'm not saying I have let my knowledge lapse but we can always, all of us, brush up on a few specific points tech wise - I was referring more to the brushing up of interview technique and hammering the internet for all things bmi. I hope they give more than 24 hours notice though!! Ouch! :ooh:
Anymore updates people while I'm here? Seems to have gone quiet for a few days now.

xwindflirt 23rd March 2008 20:11

ok.... try theory, mach tuck, transonic flight, why swept wing design. There is more but its a good place to start and this is an open forum :rolleyes:


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