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Maude Charlee 18th March 2007 17:59

All depends on base and fleet.

A typical day on the Dash at Belfast would be a 4 sector early, starting 0545ish and finishing 1300ish, and a late shift is 6 sectors starting from 1120 until potentially 2120ish.

On the jet though, mornings are longer than afternoons, but all are 4 sector days.

At other bases, Brum for example, a 5 sector early, starting 0600ish and ending anything up to 1430ish, and afternoons 4 sectors from 1400-1500 and knocking off about 2200.

It can be a busy schedule, with mostly sub 60 minute sectors and 25 minute (except the JER-GCI sectors where it will be 15 minute) turnarounds.

Not sure what the summer holds as post BACON buyout lots of new routes and changes to the previous years typical mix of sectors.

g1344304 18th March 2007 22:55

thanks maude!

I take it the hours are similar at other low cost airlines?

matzpenetration 19th March 2007 02:23

The hours are similar to other low cost outfits. The thing that used to bug us was that we always finished on a late b4 days off, then started on an early. Very few weekends off as you invariably worked at least one of the days.

Toastal 19th March 2007 19:00

Flybe North of the Border
 
Could any F/O's flying for the company north of the border ie; EDI/GLA give some info with regards to rostering,stby days,annual hrs flown,night stops and RD workings? Also, are there positions for F/Os in Scotland at the mo?

And finally finally, why is the route network bigger out of EDI. Are there plans for expansion in GLA

Feel free to PM me

Kindest regards to all

T:suspect:

Flyingstevie 25th March 2007 10:54

Hello all!

Same for me, can anybody tell me the staff travel options for FlyBe?

Thnx!

FS

mad_bob 25th March 2007 11:11

Once you are eligable, can`t remember the qualifying period, but it`s not long. You can also name one other for the same privilages i understand. You can go most places on the flybe network (not sure if its the same price for France or Spain) as a standby 9 quid plus tax per ticket so its 19 quid one way. If you want to book a firm ticket its a bit more. After a years service i think you get one free return flight and that number goes up with time. Staff Travel Dept at flybe is run by two very helpfull ladies. They have all manner of deals with touchdown and goodness only knows who, from airlines to ferry companies. They do very well.

Cheers MB

mad_bob 25th March 2007 11:14

Forgot to put it in the above post. When you leave the company then you loose Staff Travel privilage`s.

Modderator 25th March 2007 20:18

Flybe staff travel is OK. They make money out of their staff even on standby. Unlike other carriers.

Most flights with flybe are on a Dash 8 which are not pleasant.

Good agreements with bmi, BA, Virgin etc.

Shame about Steph. Most un-helpful person in the Aviation business.

BluffOldSeaDog 25th March 2007 20:42

What do you mean "unlike other carriers"? Selling an empty seat for 10% of the fare is better than 0% isn't it

CheekyVisual 25th March 2007 21:00

Actually had the staff travel letter yesterday. Doesn't look bad if the staff travel department are remotely approachable. For people who don't want to do a lot of long haul travel the deal may even be slightly better than the BA one. As a married man I can now keep my parents and sister on the staff travel and if I'm not wrong nominate the inlaws as friends and family. Can't do that at BA and you can't talk to anyone in BA staff travel. Hotline just became a total rip off ! If the BA staff travel does run for another 18 months, which I'm not sure is yet confirmed, I don't see there is any major loss for the majority and some significant gains for the normal family type people. Not that I'm saying BA staff travel is set up for a certain group of staff in anyway ! (mmmm..).

Modderator 26th March 2007 10:14

Selling an empty seat to staff at a profit to flybe is wrong. So oldseadog whats your point?

Most carriers allow their staff to travel on their own services for free. Just pay the taxes.

Hirsutesme 26th March 2007 11:46

Again modderator, you are factually wrong, as well as missing the point. You dont work for flybe either.

Maude Charlee 26th March 2007 18:58

Staff travel works pretty well.

6 months qualifies you and spouse for staff travel anywhere on flybe network, 12 months gives full priveledges with industry partners and allows all immediate family and 4 nominated friends staff travel on flybe network.

Prices around £19 domestic for standby each sector, and I think £35 overseas per sector on flybe routes. Confirmed tickets are predictably much more expensive.

Only glitch comes in later years of service once free confirmed tickets become available, as tickets are often unavailable for chosen routes/dates especially during peak holiday times.

bermudatriangle 26th March 2007 22:33

modderator,you ain't got a clue about staff travel...makes me wonder if you have ever been entitled to it ?

bermudatriangle 26th March 2007 22:35

further to my previous post,most company staff travel within europe is about as expensive as a firm seat with the lo cost operators.only real benefits are long haul flights with a premium cabin entitlement,subject to availability of course.staff travel isn't the great perk it used to be..give me a company car any day !!

Aussie 2nd April 2007 09:46

A little off topic, but does anyone know if Flybe is recruiting guys off the street for FO positions, with 3-400 hrs?

Cheers

Anotherflapoperator 2nd April 2007 10:28

Joking aren't you. If you have a F/ATPL, one head and a pulse, you're in with a good shot of an F/O's position in Flybe. once they've sorted the LHS positions out, they'll need a lot of newbies to fill the right seats and quickly too.

Apply if you want, it's probably a good place to start out, and at least you don't get completely shafted like Ryanair try to do.

Aussie 3rd April 2007 03:38

Thanks mate, check ya pms

calpat 8th April 2007 22:41

Flybe Interview
 
I've been looking through past Flybe threads and been unable to find any info reference their job interviews. Can anybody give me a heads up of what to expect please as I've got one a week on Mon. Also, there seems to be a lot of animosity being thrown in their direction recently, is it really that bad?

Cheers

Tandemrotor 9th April 2007 07:31

calpat

Put your index and middle finger up against the inside of your wrist, to check your pulse. If you've got one (and any kind of licence) you're in mate!

PS. Try not to worry if you haven't got a pulse, I'm sure they'll find a way round it!

Anotherflapoperator 9th April 2007 09:40

He ain't wrong either!

Actually, it helps if you are keen on building a career in regional aviation, like the thought of hands on flying, flexibility and a company that makes money. Flybe are DESPERATE for folk who will work for them. Mainly because when they were paid to take on BACON, loads of the pilots who they expected to get, turned round and filled EasyJet's courses for the rest of the year!

Best of luck, every one I've met from Flybe so far has been enthusiastic and friendly.

boyband 9th April 2007 12:28

Just tell them what they want to hear. You love regional flying, turboprops especially the Dash8, you've no intention of doing long haul ever and see yourself staying there for a long long time. You don't mind where they base you, and you like hard work. Good luck.

5 RINGS 10th April 2007 08:55

Hello there!

could anybody confirm that FlyBe suspended F/O recruitment til next autumn, and focus on DEC and Fast Track F/O?

Cheers,

flat-tire 10th April 2007 10:47

Thoughts about Flybe
Training bond doesn’t depreciate.
3+month leave notice
8 days off a month
departing on time is more important than safety
Its a good place to start but the bond is a bit much
Not sure how long the company will last
Lots of parked aircraft
poor organization skills
3rd least best airline I have worked with
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers but a future employee should know what it's like.

speedrestriction 10th April 2007 11:27

Flat-tire:
Departing on time most definitely does not come before flight safety. What a silly comment on your behalf.
For first officers starting out it ticks most the boxes: plenty of hours and not having to fork out for a type rating. To boot you will get experience on a 30t full EFIS aircraft. Among TP operators Flybe pay better than pretty much everyone else.

sr

flat-tire 10th April 2007 12:21

speedrestriction
Sorry, I take that back, on time bonuses get in the way of safety.

5 RINGS 10th April 2007 12:32

IMHO a very place to get started indeed.

Recruitement at the moment is purely DEC and Fast Track F/O.

no chance to join as F/O and see all FlyBe's fleet in the air before this problem is solved in first place.

Deano777 10th April 2007 13:15

5 RINGS

Where did you get your info from mate?

5 RINGS 10th April 2007 14:03

FlyBe's HR.

Maude Charlee 10th April 2007 14:12

Flybe don't have on time bonuses.

Perhaps you have us confused with a shifty, flag of convenience type operator with a gobby CEO.

Deano777 10th April 2007 14:12

Thanks mate

Their website is still accepting applications for F/Os :\

5 RINGS 10th April 2007 15:01

I know...they'll resume F/O recruitment as soon as they can, but still focussed on DEC and FT F/Os...sadly I don't meet either profile yet.

flat-tire 10th April 2007 15:06

Maude Charlee,
Ground handling get bonuses for on time departures. Ask them.

Maude Charlee 10th April 2007 18:08

More correctly, ground handling management get bonuses for on-time departures. That's why delay codes and block times are fiddled on a regular basis, so as to either make a delay disappear or place the blame elsewhere.

The handlers get bugger all. Been there, done that.

Slightly disingenuous to imply BE flight deck put safety at risk by rushing for on time departures. And we certainly don't allow the handlers to dictate when we are good to go.

Rollerboy 10th April 2007 21:17

Sorry flat-tire

I think you will find that the training bond does depreciate. As per new agreement it's a tapered bond.

Correct me if I am wrong but I think there are some legal problems with non depreciating bonds therefore Flybe have renewed their agreement.

Flybe operate to a set of SOPs and at no point in their SOPs does it read
Departing on time is more important than safety.

As for not sure how long the company will last What is that supposed to mean???????

Those not afraid of hard work to gain hours and experience should apply as a low hour FO what more could I ask for. I am not going to get far in aviation driving a van with only 8 days off a month am I.

Rollerboy

flat-tire 11th April 2007 00:16

Rollerboy

Sorry to get you worked up. These are just my prescriptions from various people and there is no need for the red font. I'm glad to see that someone at the company cares. If safety was a big concern how come they use the FTL as a target instead of a limit? How come the A/C medical kit is so small? These are just a few.

As for how long the company will last...Huge cash injection which could line some top managements pockets while they watch it crumble around them. Might happen or not. Who's to know. Flybe slumped to a £12.2 million pre-tax loss in its latest trading year.

Also, I wasn't directing this post at low hour F/Os. If I wanted to do that I would have been in the wannabes forum. Either way, if you want to work hard and build time on a turbo-prop join Flybe. If you want to make some money and build time on a jet, join Ryanair.

Enjoy your 12 hour days........

JobsaGoodun 11th April 2007 08:31


Flybe slumped to a £12.2 million pre-tax loss in its latest trading year.
Err, no they didn't! The loss was recorded in the trading year to end of March '06 and included the write down, one off costs of disposing of their 146 fleet including the losses on those aircraft owned and not leased.

The profit/loss figures for the current trading year have yet to be released but expect it to be very good. Given the current size/scope of Flybe I would categorically say that they are no longer in any financial difficulties.

They are now the 3rd largest pilot employer in the country, so I would imagine the job security with them are far better than in many of their competitors!

speedrestriction 11th April 2007 11:51

Flat-tire, I would have expected you to get the hint before now. :ugh: However, I'm more than happy to clear up a few more of your ill concieved notions:

I am much happier working hard for a successful company than I would be working part time for a failing company.

A/C medical kits meet the requirements. Given the nature of our operation we are normally no more than 15-20 mins from an airport should we need to land.

And finally. most of my working days last about 8 hours.


sr

flat-tire 11th April 2007 12:38

sr

Good luck and I wish you the best. Hopefully you are working hard for a successful airline. Only time will tell. Also, these are my opinions (thoughts) and no matter what you say can curve what I see.

As for our epileptic passengers, it will only be 15 mins. or so for us to get on the ground so please be patient during your shock.


Enjoy your "8" hour days.........Glad you're not my union Rep.

Chesty Morgan 11th April 2007 13:17

First aid for convulsive epileptic seizures (tonic clonic or clonic - previously known as grand mal)
  • Stay calm.
  • Note the time.
  • Prevent others from crowding round.
  • Put something soft under the person’s head - like a jacket or cardigan - to prevent injury.
  • Only move if they are in a dangerous place, such as in the road or at the top of stairs. Move things away from them if there is a risk of injury.
  • Do not attempt to restrain the convulsive movements. Allow the seizure to take its course.
  • Do not put anything in the person’s mouth. There is no danger of swallowing the tongue and teeth can easily be broken.

When the seizure has stopped:
  • If possible roll the person onto their side into the recovery position.
  • Wipe away any excess saliva. If breathing is still laboured check that nothing is blocking the throat, such as dentures or food.
  • Do all you can to minimise embarrassment. If the person has been incontinent, deal with this as privately as possible.
  • Stay with the person giving reassurance until they have fully recovered. Do not offer them a drink unless you are sure they are fully recovered.

Most seizures happen without warning, last only a short time and stop without any special treatment. Injuries can occur, but most people do not come to any harm in a seizure and do not usually need to go to hospital or see a doctor.

When a person has a convulsive seizure it is possible that their regular breathing pattern will be affected and they may go blue. Although this can be frightening to witness, it does not mean it is a medical emergency.

15 minutes? Bargain!

And as for leaving early - I'm normally having a fag at STD +5:}


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