Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11425745)
so why don’t pilots switch between companies that don’t have seniority? No seniority at Easy, Ryan or jet2 .
Ryanair - Jet2 (or vice versa) - people do. Easy - Jet2 - likely now there is an airbus fleet. |
Originally Posted by Flying Wild
(Post 11425878)
Easy - Ryanair - different types
Ryanair - Jet2 (or vice versa) - people do. Easy - Jet2 - likely now there is an airbus fleet. if the theory about increasing salaries is correct then…. not sure the differnant types is a valid arguement though as each new hire is required to complete a course at the new company anyway. Granted previous experience on type “may” be of some benefit, but it’s not a barrier to movement of labour like seniority. |
Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11425745)
so why don’t pilots switch between companies that don’t have seniority? No seniority at Easy, Ryan or jet2 .
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Originally Posted by SpamCanDriver
(Post 11426283)
Half of Ryanair are joining J2
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11425917)
in that case it’ll be very Intersting to see
if the theory about increasing salaries is correct then…. not sure the differnant types is a valid arguement though as each new hire is required to complete a course at the new company anyway. Granted previous experience on type “may” be of some benefit, but it’s not a barrier to movement of labour like seniority. |
Originally Posted by Flying Wild
(Post 11426325)
An OCC is very different to having to do a new type rating, plus associated training burden with training sectors.
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11426315)
As DEC?
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11426342)
But it’s not really is it? Couple less sims and a few fewer line training flights. Anyway, we’re considering captains that are supposed to be able to move freely from Co to co without starting at the bottom. Surely Captain X is capable of passing a new type DEC course at min cost (read min sectors) as he’s “been a captain for years”.
I made no particular comment about my self worth or feeling of entitlement to join big airlines on PP24. If that’s how you choose to interpret my post then fair enough, it certainly wasn’t how it was intended though. I disagree that there is little between a type rating and a full OCC. I have done both. The type rating took over twice as long, and with 3x the sim sessions and 3x the line training sectors. That is huge. If you’re recruiting 200+ pilots in a single season that is a huge training burden! |
Originally Posted by SpamCanDriver
(Post 11426283)
Half of Ryanair are joining J2
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Originally Posted by 3Greens
(Post 11425613)
that’s a shame I agree. It’s frankly hard to imagine how BA/TUI/Virgin have managed to survive with out you. Suggest writing to the DFO @big airways quoting your mates and tell him you’re available for immediate hire onto Pp24 LHS A350 as you’ve “been a Captain for years”.
Let us all know how you get on. See, eg, RAF A330 pilots who have been doing a more demanding job for a third of the money. It's BALPA/organised labour rather than any special flying talent endowed by staying at BA for 30 years that stops you being replaced by the itinerants above. |
Month 7 since assessment, arms getting tired 😂 🏊♂️ NTR FO anyone else still out there same situation? No contact for last few months, not sure wether to email or would this make my chances even less
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Originally Posted by Atrus600
(Post 11429269)
Month 7 since assessment, arms getting tired 😂 🏊♂️ NTR FO anyone else still out there same situation? No contact for last few months, not sure wether to email or would this make my chances even less
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Originally Posted by Atrus600
(Post 11429269)
Month 7 since assessment, arms getting tired 😂 🏊♂️ NTR FO anyone else still out there same situation? No contact for last few months, not sure wether to email or would this make my chances even less
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Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this and as you say couldn’t spare any aircraft at this time of year for base training. I have 2500 hours but haven’t been told either way of require base training or not, I would imagine I would not. Be good to even have an indication of say end of year if plan but believe they launching new recruitment campaign soon. Just keep swimming with hope……
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Originally Posted by Atrus600
(Post 11430490)
Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this and as you say couldn’t spare any aircraft at this time of year for base training. I have 2500 hours but haven’t been told either way of require base training or not, I would imagine I would not. Be good to even have an indication of say end of year if plan but believe they launching new recruitment campaign soon. Just keep swimming with hope……
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Another candidate I spoke to was told despite meeting CAA requirements for ZFTT they have, if I remember this correctly, their own internal higher hour requirements exceeding this |
Interesting thanks for the information will post any updates in the future if any developments
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Originally Posted by annakm
(Post 11430585)
Brother in law put application in this week. 3500 hours on 737 - current medical etc. Be interesting if he gets a call.
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
(Post 11431667)
Unless he’s got a history, then I’d say he can expect a call. Experienced AND rated.
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
(Post 11431667)
Unless he’s got a history, then I’d say he can expect a call. Experienced AND rated.
Anyone have any idea how long it took to get any follow up call? |
Originally Posted by annakm
(Post 11434576)
Ive slipped in an application too. Also current with relevant hours/experience etc.
Anyone have any idea how long it took to get any follow up call? |
Recruitment for the summer now complete. Year round recruitment taking place for expansion, I'd assume targeting 320 rated folk. Rumours of a new Liverpool base being announced imminently.
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Originally Posted by marcus1290
(Post 11435481)
Recruitment for the summer now complete. Year round recruitment taking place for expansion, I'd assume targeting 320 rated folk. Rumours of a new Liverpool base being announced imminently.
https://www.jet2.com/news/2023/05/Je...Lennon_Airport |
Any news on a future LGW base? Asking for a ‘friend’…
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Originally Posted by 737 Jockey
(Post 11436612)
Any news on a future LGW base? Asking for a ‘friend’…
But unofficially it's a done deal according to galley FM..... make of that what you will. I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen though |
Thanks. My ‘friend’ will be pleased, but not holding
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It’s on the table with others apparently and another pay rise soon :)
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Originally Posted by mesh
(Post 11437981)
It’s on the table with others apparently and another pay rise soon :)
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Any news on STN base Airbus TR CAPT/FO? When will STN start getting neo?
“Asking for a friend as well” |
Originally Posted by 852pilot
(Post 11438541)
Any news on STN base Airbus TR CAPT/FO? When will STN start getting neo?
“Asking for a friend as well” |
Anyone struggled with comms from J2 recently? Informed I passed the assessment a couple weeks ago but had no phone call regarding base/contract since whereas I know some who got the contract the day after being told they passed. Sent an email last week but heard nothing back so just trying to get a feel for the avg turnaround time getting the contract.
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
(Post 11438663)
They can't get the Airbus to MAN and BHX as quick as they were planning, so STN unlikely until the deliveries ramp up in 2024. And even then they'll likely want to focus on MAN where they really need the bigger aircraft due to the stand shortage.
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Originally Posted by Mr Good Cat
(Post 11431667)
Unless he’s got a history, then I’d say he can expect a call. Experienced AND rated.
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don’t think it’s anything to worry about usually the ones that take a couple of weeks is training etc sorting out places on courses etc they should respond to you email might just take few days, oh to be rated! Congratulations passing!
Originally Posted by Moonraker4
(Post 11438675)
Anyone struggled with comms from J2 recently? Informed I passed the assessment a couple weeks ago but had no phone call regarding base/contract since whereas I know some who got the contract the day after being told they passed. Sent an email last week but heard nothing back so just trying to get a feel for the avg turnaround time getting the contract.
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What is the typical variable pay per year at jet2?
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Looks like new recruitment campaign to be launched anyone NTR had any movement lately?
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Looking at the figures on PPJN, Jet2 seem to be blowing the likes of easyJet/Ryanair/BA EF out of the water on pay. Approaching legacy carrier pay levels for SFOs. Is anyone within the airline concerned as to the sustainability of this going forward? An ex colleague there has spoken about another payrise coming at the end of the summer in order to attract airbus talent away from easyJet at MAN.
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I think I’d be more concerned if I was (had the misfortune) to be a Ryanair U.K. manager, looking at the amount of RYR 737 drivers Jet2 are hoovering up at the moment. I think Jet2 have been quick off the mark to spot the shortage of qualified/experienced Pilots that are both licenced, and have the right to live/work in the U.K. given the expansion plans, and the recruitment at many other U.K. carriers. IMHO, Jet2 will need a better, probably fixed roster to attract significant numbers of easyJet pilots away from Planet Orange, as the financial package is pretty similar between the two.
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Originally Posted by go-around flap 15
(Post 11461246)
Looking at the figures on PPJN, Jet2 seem to be blowing the likes of easyJet/Ryanair/BA EF out of the water on pay. Approaching legacy carrier pay levels for SFOs. Is anyone within the airline concerned as to the sustainability of this going forward? An ex colleague there has spoken about another payrise coming at the end of the summer in order to attract airbus talent away from easyJet at MAN.
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The more pay rises J2 give out the better it is for the rest of us too! RYR are being left far, far behind in the U.K. and the likes of BA VA are going to have to increase their package to stay ahead of J2.
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