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Jonty 20th Aug 2022 06:02


Originally Posted by santacruz (Post 11281709)
Did they say anything about which bases Airbus will be going to?

Manchester and Birmingham initially.

marcus1290 20th Aug 2022 21:44

I know that at one point they were experiencing 1500 applications a day for 100-150 jobs, however I expect a lot of them are Non-UK Licence holders. If you're Airbus rated, you'll be of interest, especially a trainer. There is approx 30 command upgrades in the hold pool, all for winter course, only for 73 and 75. If you're looking for a DEC gig on either of those fleets, I wouldn't hold your breath. Airbus however, they'll be very interested as there has been no delays in the 321 order.

I know that assessments have taken / are taking place and some job offers have already gone out. I only know of NTR/TR 737 FOs being interviewed at the moment.

Alphamax1 21st Aug 2022 05:27

Hi chaps ,
Long time lurker !
I did the assesment a few weeks ago (FO A321 Rated) , it was super fast from applying to getting the congrats call from Will . First of all is the online testing which tbh are MUCH easier than they used to be ! the personality questions are linked to what you will be asked in the interview .Group exercise was items in a log cabing and its on fire what would you take etc.... just dont be overpowering and listen. The interview was just 2 pilots no HR which was a breath of fresh air ! VERY laid back and is like having a chat with colleagues that I would love to have a day out with .
If you pass the interview then you get booked into the sim later that day. I did it on the 757-200 , I would highly recommend getting microsoft flight sim and getting used to the PFD/ND and the scans . Or if you can afford it go into an actual sim ! Just remember the pitch power is something to behold !! The sim guys are highly experienced and make you feel at ease during the process and will try and help when they can , they dont provide feedback .
I got the phone call the next day saying I passed "very well" and I was in a type rated airbus pool .
My only thought is how long until I get the call ? I havent got anything official saying im in the pool ..... which is slightly concerning

SpamCanDriver 21st Aug 2022 16:51


Originally Posted by Alphamax1 (Post 11282283)
Hi chaps ,
Long time lurker !
I did the assesment a few weeks ago (FO A321 Rated) , it was super fast from applying to getting the congrats call from Will . First of all is the online testing which tbh are MUCH easier than they used to be ! the personality questions are linked to what you will be asked in the interview .Group exercise was items in a log cabing and its on fire what would you take etc.... just dont be overpowering and listen. The interview was just 2 pilots no HR which was a breath of fresh air ! VERY laid back and is like having a chat with colleagues that I would love to have a day out with .
If you pass the interview then you get booked into the sim later that day. I did it on the 757-200 , I would highly recommend getting microsoft flight sim and getting used to the PFD/ND and the scans . Or if you can afford it go into an actual sim ! Just remember the pitch power is something to behold !! The sim guys are highly experienced and make you feel at ease during the process and will try and help when they can , they dont provide feedback .
I got the phone call the next day saying I passed "very well" and I was in a type rated airbus pool .
My only thought is how long until I get the call ? I havent got anything official saying im in the pool ..... which is slightly concerning

Congratulations AlphaMax!

And thanks for the feedback on the process

mesh 22nd Aug 2022 12:29


Originally Posted by marcus1290 (Post 11282174)
I know that at one point they were experiencing 1500 applications a day for 100-150 jobs, however I expect a lot of them are Non-UK Licence holders. If you're Airbus rated, you'll be of interest, especially a trainer. There is approx 30 command upgrades in the hold pool, all for winter course, only for 73 and 75. If you're looking for a DEC gig on either of those fleets, I wouldn't hold your breath. Airbus however, they'll be very interested as there has been no delays in the 321 order.

I know that assessments have taken / are taking place and some job offers have already gone out. I only know of NTR/TR 737 FOs being interviewed at the moment.

are there definitely NTR interviews going on at present?


marcus1290 22nd Aug 2022 22:06


Originally Posted by mesh (Post 11283029)
are there definitely NTR interviews going on at present?

Yes. Have been for a few weeks, and still currently on going.

DCT_ELSIR 12th Sep 2022 11:48

As the days since I applied are now measured in the hundreds and I have yet to receive any acknowledgement of my application, I wondered if anyone else is in the same boat? I’m guessing at this stage I should consider this a de facto PFO? NTR FO. Thanks for any info.

SpamCanDriver 12th Sep 2022 13:12


Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR (Post 11295400)
As the days since I applied are now measured in the hundreds and I have yet to receive any acknowledgement of my application, I wondered if anyone else is in the same boat? I’m guessing at this stage I should consider this a de facto PFO? NTR FO. Thanks for any info.

You didnt receive the automatic acknowledgement?
Or are you talking about the quote from that email, that said they would be in touch within 4weeks?

No one I know has heard anything, including people who were previously in the hold pool.
I wouldn't write yourself off yet

DCT_ELSIR 12th Sep 2022 13:14

Thanks spamcandriver. I did get the auto-acknowledgement but nothing beyond that. Thanks for the info.

KruegerFlappage 12th Sep 2022 14:53


Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR (Post 11295400)
As the days since I applied are now measured in the hundreds and I have yet to receive any acknowledgement of my application, I wondered if anyone else is in the same boat? I’m guessing at this stage I should consider this a de facto PFO? NTR FO. Thanks for any info.

nothing here either. If they want people trained for next summer with 3 month notice periods and 3 month training (approx) I imagine things will move quick from October

737 Jockey 12th Sep 2022 15:37


Originally Posted by DCT_ELSIR (Post 11295400)
As the days since I applied are now measured in the hundreds and I have yet to receive any acknowledgement of my application, I wondered if anyone else is in the same boat? I’m guessing at this stage I should consider this a de facto PFO? NTR FO. Thanks for any info.


Nowt here either… 737 TR DEC.

IMHO it’s a poor show that there’s been radio silence from J2. A simple one sentence generic update to all applicants wouldn’t go amiss. If their fleet/crew plans have changed, fair enough, but at least have the decency to communicate.

black diamond 12th Sep 2022 21:16

Has anyone actually heard anything ?

mesh 14th Sep 2022 15:06

TR DEC will unfortunately be the last to be called. Big push to promote from within coupled with the majority of recruitment being FO’s spells a wait I’m afraid. I would say most of the DEC incomes will be trainers, mainly on the airbus. We will be recruiting all year around apparently so maybe when the pool of internal candidates dries up there maybe movement.

First.officer 15th Sep 2022 08:56


Has anyone actually heard anything ?
Some have heard from J2, so at least as recent as a few weeks ago there was activity with recent applications. For those of us not hearing thus far from J2 - it may be we have to accept that perhaps we don't necessarily have at this time, the criteria that J2 are looking for in recruiting new pilots? Harsh but maybe true? and I include myself in this number as I have not heard anything. :sad:

737 Jockey 15th Sep 2022 09:26


Originally Posted by First.officer (Post 11297044)
Some have heard from J2, so at least as recent as a few weeks ago there was activity with recent applications. For those of us not hearing thus far from J2 - it may be we have to accept that perhaps we don't necessarily have at this time, the criteria that J2 are looking for in recruiting new pilots? Harsh but maybe true? and I include myself in this number as I have not heard anything. :sad:

I don’t mind not being selected, I just want them to either send an interim comms out, or issue a PFO, rather than just radio silence. It’s basic decency.

DCT_ELSIR 15th Sep 2022 09:28


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 11297056)
I don’t mind not being selected, I just want them to either send an interim comms out, or issue a PFO, rather than just radio silence. It’s basic decency.

I totally agree. It’s very poor to go months without an update, or even an indication that an application has been read and assessed.

thetimesreader84 15th Sep 2022 10:22


Originally Posted by 737 Jockey (Post 11297056)
I don’t mind not being selected, I just want them to either send an interim comms out, or issue a PFO, rather than just radio silence. It’s basic decency.

just to temper your expectations, when I have applied to Jet 2 in the past, I didn’t get the PFO until much later. I’m led to believe it’s only sent out once all vacancies in the campaign (TR, NTR, FO, DEC etc) have been filled. So could be a while depending on how they’re doing it.

Bon Chance.

First.officer 15th Sep 2022 11:27


I didn’t get the PFO until much later. I’m led to believe it’s only sent out once all vacancies in the campaign (TR, NTR, FO, DEC etc) have been filled
I think this may well be the case as to why we haven't heard anything - understand why it perhaps is frustrating not to have heard anything in the interim, or otherwise but equally - they (J2) I am sure will have been inundated to the extreme, so might explain a lack of comms. For me personally, I will therefore accept that the PFO is most likely 'in the post' and move on to the next opportunity should it present itself in due course.

mesh 20th Sep 2022 18:03

Has anybody received an offer/start date and if yes how long did it take them to contact you with the good news?

Brexoff 21st Sep 2022 08:59

Someone at my airline (NTR FO with TP time) applied the first week it opened this year and got an email a month ago asking if he was still interested. He’d already started a new job with the pink people so he didn’t reply.

They contacted him again a couple of weeks ago offering an assessment which he politely declined.

doz111 22nd Sep 2022 14:04

I just had a call asking if still I was still interested and availability for selection days in October. My application was for A321 type rated.

She did apologise for the delay and explained that it was down to decisions on basing. Not sure if this was only for the A321 but I was told that the application would now only be for Birmingham or Manchester bases.

She said she had lots of people to call so hopefully everyone should get some news soon either way.

737 CL 22nd Sep 2022 14:15

My application was not progressing for B737 TR Captain with UK license.

YosserHughes 22nd Sep 2022 15:28


Originally Posted by 737 CL (Post 11300822)
My application was not progressing for B737 TR Captain with UK license.


Did you receive a PFO?

I've still not heard a thing, 737 rated, current, UK licence & Yorkshire passport holder.

ToCatLady 22nd Sep 2022 18:59

Email went out last week apologising for the delay as they continuously adjust their requirements for summer 23. Told to expect an update in the next 3-4 weeks.

737 CL 22nd Sep 2022 22:17

I have only EU Passport. Maybe for that reason my application is not progressing.

mesh 23rd Sep 2022 07:00

Man or Brum ...
That’s due to type

737 Jockey 23rd Sep 2022 08:36

Just logged on to my J2 application to find it’s finally moved onto stage 2 ‘under review’. Haven’t got my U.K. Licence yet, so not getting too excited. DEC TR 737.

Count of Monte Bisto 26th Sep 2022 21:43

I work for easyJet and am not looking at Jet2. I used to work previously for Channel Express and flew the Handley Page Herald for them in a previous life. I am not looking to go anywhere, but came across this thread. I do know, however, that many of our FOs and captains are applying to Jet2 as they are hacked off by easyJet for one reason or another. Whether they will actually leave when push comes to shove is another matter. From Jet2's point of view, current A320 pilots with loads of hours on type are a pretty attractive commodity. I believe they are trying to hoover up our MAN-based TRE's who now have to work in Crawley near Gatwick and spend a lot of time away from home. By all accounts a good number have applied to them and are progressing through the system. Apparently, they also pay TRE's more at Jet2 than easyJet, but I cannot confirm that.

I am near the end of my career and enjoy being a TRE at easyJet. However, Jet2 have much to commend them, but it is a hard-rules world. Having seen Philip Meeson (Executive Chairman at Jet2) in action many years ago, I have no desire to be part of his empire ever again. However, it is horses for courses and good luck to everyone who goes there. I have as somewhat mercenary view of this. If loads of pilots leave us to join Jet2 then that puts pressure on our terms and conditions and we will all gain from that.

Regarding waiting for recruitment updates, I am afraid that is the nature of the beast. These guys do not care if you are offended in any way - it is simply a matter of filling seats when required. If you fit the bill then you get the call at a time of their convenience. If you pass the assessment you get a job offer for start date of their convenience. If you do not fit the bill at the time, they simply keep you hanging on until you are definitely surplus to requirements and they send out the letter or just do nothing at all. Such is the world of job hunting sadly.

mesh 27th Sep 2022 13:11

Yep the minute you think a company is going to give feedback, updates etc with thousands of applications you are in for an unhappy time. If you get angry with that then maybe it’s not the right company for you. I think when you are waiting for the call from Jet2 it’s good to think about the recruitment team, the changing market, financial environment etc. The recruitment numbers and experience/type levels that they require are changing daily. Some points to consider…and to touch on some of the points just made. For TRE’s the general figure required was 20ish A320. Guys who have been called for assessment have come from many different airlines and backgrounds. I know and have recommended current A320 TRE’s that haven’t had a sniff of assessment as have many other colleagues. I know of TRE’s that aren’t current on type that have been called for assessment. Jet2 have a long track record of looking at and recruiting a mix of candidates with a variety of experience. It works well, we still have a mix of Type rated and none type rated courses going through. On the NTR you will have big jet, military, rotary, turbo prop etc and thank god for that. Jet2 also has a marked intention to promote from within. There are lately an increasing number of internal upgrades raising there heads. They also have a large order for Airbus and possibly more 737’s which will arrive at different timelines to those expected. All of these factors have an ever changing effect on people needed and called for interview. The picture is changing daily so I find it hard to understand what communication people expect pertinent to them. They can’t tell every individual wether they will be called as they don’t know. They can only tell you that they have received your application. Recruitment is year running so they can’t tell you time is up. From my limited knowledge of the current situation I would say the majority of DEC’s are TRE A320. We needed around 20 and recruitment has been going for quite a while. If more airbuses are coming this may improve and more will be called. DEC, with the command upgrades on the horizon most if not all of the LHS opportunities will be taken by them. FO Type rated, yep probably the biggest group to be recruited. FO NTR also being recruited but a smaller number. As a last bit of hope for the guys that aren’t orange or even type rated. Jet2 still recruit ‘the best fit as an individual’. There will be many Easyjet candidates that don’t get the job for many reasons as there will be ex Thomas Cook etc. When Monarch and Thomas cook went down there were many individuals that thought Jet2 and EasyJet would snap them up and be great full for it. Boy did they get a wake up call. Hang in there and all the best to all applying.

ToCatLady 27th Sep 2022 15:28

Would it be correct that J2 tend not to inform of pass/fail until they’ve assessed everyone so they can then award the position based on the individuals overall score? ie 125 pass the assessments but there’s only 75 positions available so they hire the “best” 75?

mesh 28th Sep 2022 11:19

All I can say is the individuals I know were told they had passed 3 days later give or take.

mesh 28th Sep 2022 11:23


Originally Posted by Time Traveller (Post 11303637)
No, I'm sorry, but jet2 is the only company where months of silence are regarded as perfectly ok, even if you've gone to the trouble of attending the assessment and passed. I only knew soon after, because one of the interviewers, (who were top blokes) let me know unofficially. The first official communication was a call to start asap, about 6 months later, and unsurprisingly, I was already working elsewhere. Not SFs fault I might add - it seems he has to handle the whole system single handedly.

out of interest how did the interviewer know you had passed if you hadn’t had the sim?

Time Traveller 28th Sep 2022 18:14

I had. All done in the same visit.

mesh 28th Sep 2022 22:12


Originally Posted by Time Traveller (Post 11304413)
I had. All done in the same visit.

ah ok, it strange as usually the sim guys are completely separate to the interviewers. Separate for a reason and neither know they just fill their bit in so still surprised you knew when you left you had passed. The reports go back to the team for a final decision so not sure how you felt that. Anyway, I’m glad you have found the right place and wish you all the best.

Cuillin Hills 29th Sep 2022 10:55


Originally Posted by Time Traveller (Post 11303637)
No, I'm sorry, but jet2 is the only company where months of silence are regarded as perfectly ok, even if you've gone to the trouble of attending the assessment and passed. I only knew soon after, because one of the interviewers, (who were top blokes) let me know unofficially. The first official communication was a call to start asap, about 6 months later, and unsurprisingly, I was already working elsewhere. Not SFs fault I might add - it seems he has to handle the whole system single handedly.


Disagree

For example, several years ago I was told I had passed everything by Qatar and was likely a DEC for the B787.

Nothing heard from Qatar for 8 months then informed of a start date which only just cleared my notice period for my current employer.

Was told that if I didn’t accept the start date then my application would be cancelled.

I decided to stay where I was and very pleased that I did.


Airline pilot recruitment numbers change almost by the day and are very reactive to retention, new aircraft delivery slots, exchange rates etc - it is just the way it is.


Alrosa 29th Sep 2022 11:10


Originally Posted by Cuillin Hills (Post 11304834)
Disagree

For example, several years ago I was told I had passed everything by Qatar and was likely a DEC for the B787.

Nothing heard from Qatar for 8 months then informed of a start date which only just cleared my notice period for my current employer.

Was told that if I didn’t accept the start date then my application would be cancelled.

I decided to stay where I was and very pleased that I did.


Airline pilot recruitment numbers change almost by the day and are very reactive to retention, new aircraft delivery slots, exchange rates etc - it is just the way it is.

I’d agree with this. That’s been my experience with various applications over the years. I think the only possible exception that currently applies is Ryanair, who will most likely get back to you in very short order should you apply as a rated DEFO.



santacruz 17th Oct 2022 13:25

That’s over 4 weeks…

First.officer 18th Oct 2022 09:51


That’s over 4 weeks…
Relax, I'm sure they'll be in touch - just very busy....

santacruz 18th Oct 2022 16:08


Originally Posted by First.officer (Post 11315285)
Relax, I'm sure they'll be in touch - just very busy....

just to clarify, my application has been in for months.

it’s over 4 weeks since the email saying they would be in touch in 3-4 weeks.

And I am Nice and relaxed.

😀

A321drvr 19th Oct 2022 09:16

Wizz UK needs to up their training capacity to cater for Jet2's A32F expansion!


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