correct. However you only get through to the sim if you pass their metrics of the interview and group exercise. View is NTR DEC is tailed back.

Thanks
Do you do yhe full cut e tests? Or is it just the personality questionnaire?

Yes I was very surprised to get called forward for interview, wasn't expecting it at all to be honest. A very pleasant surprise though

the online tests are pretty basic , from memory it’s flying through a tunnel with shapes to avoid / an ATC listening thing / a multi action task (basic maths ) and the personality questions which they use the results from to generate questions for the interview .
might have been some other things but nothing that difficult

Unfortunately had my assessment as NTR FO back in October but have hardly heard anything since, I have about 2500 hours and currently with a Scottish regional however have decided to start pursuing other jobs as think this hold pool is more aimed at 2024 than anything more for 2023 possibly. Disappointed in the lack of comms after going too so much effort and cost for the assessment yet they are still advertising for more recruitment

Thank you

Very much appreciated

I know many people in a similar situation. A call to say they've passed and then radio silence for months and months.

Their lack of comms to people is what's rather unfortunate. As you say it costs a fortune to go and attend these assessment days with hotels, fuel, flights all involved. It costs nothing to send an update email to those in the hold pool.

Is it possibly because of base preference?

I wouldn’t think so, they pick the right candidate and asign base that’s best fit. If it’s not your first choice they do well getting people to their preferred base.

Some communication would have been appreciated or updates about anticipated start dates, maybe too much to ask. Start date received now relatively quickly for British Airways and kept informed along the way shame didn’t work out

mid you don’t mind me asking what was your base preference?

BHX EMA or similar would have been first choices

Apparently the ATO has to sign off on some paperwork before the thumbs up. Don’t forget like every other airline, the internal comms will be sub par, they are massively recruiting, upgrades and have a military culture overload in many management areas, hence the snail pace. They will loose out on good folk going to BA/DHL/TUI

Hi Everyone,
I have a Jet2 assessment coming up for DEC. Looking for feedback on group exercises, interview questions and sim. I would be grateful if you could PM me, or reply to this message.

Many Thanks,

FB

At any of the recent assessments have they been saying how long it is until offer of employment? Presuming it will depend on fleet / base etc. Are they currently recruiting for the summer or is it more of a long term plan?

Anyone had any start dates lately, all seems to have gone rather quiet guessing with summer approaching.

Heard from another candidate they were told no capacity for anyone requiring base training but I haven’t been told this personally. Not sure how long they expect people to keep swimming for, anyone else in the hold pool have any updates for FO positions?

Type rated Pilots will be prioritised due to being less training resource intensive at this critical time. Rated guys from last weeks assessments already have contracts and start dates for a June OCC.

Yes completely understand that, good to hear they are still actively recruiting aswell. Just when you have applied for a role in June 2022 been through assessment and passed and now fast approaching a year down the line seems a bit of a waste of everyone’s time. Happy enough where I am for just now hopefully get a call over next few months 🙏 wonder how many waiting for start dates now and still advertising for more

If anyone could share some feedback/pointers on the assessment day/757 sim profile it would be much appreciated. Whether on here or thorough PM. Thanks in advance and best of luck to everyone.

sent dm good luck

Hey Atrus, I’ve tried to send you a DM in reply but it’s saying your inbox is full

nothing in my inbox so should be ok

I believe Pprune has a restriction for receiving PM, whereby you need to have made a certain number of posts prior to being able to. Don’t know what that number is though.

Hi All,
Considering a Jet2 TR A321 SFO Application.
Ive lots of hours total and experienced on the 320. I have my own reasons for considering a move from my current employer and aware of the view gain command first then apply DEC 321. I’m considering all the angles and lifestyle choices rather than money driven.
Is there a DE SFO process? Can anyone elude to the Recruitment Process and Command Upgrade Process? With the predicted Airbus fleet expansion, subject to meeting the Command Upgrade requirements, what would the likely time to command be? Appreciate can’t share official training manuals details on this forum but highlights would be useful to know.
I’m new to PPRUNE, and not sure if it’s possible to DM rather than make it public here?

Can anyone ACTUALLY in Jet2, and in the know provide any useful info?

Cheers

With all the Airbus on order, and a potential shortage of U.K. licenced, experienced Airbus pilots willing to jump ship from EZY/BA, is there a good chance of moving from the 737 to the bus? Asking for a friend… 👀

Jet2 is a meritocracy which isn’t popular to many , but I think it’s a good thing ! You don’t get 15year FOs (like in my previous company) that are useless.
The company rewards guys and girls that are good.
Although definitely still a bit of who you know …… which is improving

True; well… almost true.

The site seems to block the sending of PMs from new contributors with fewer than a certain number of posts (10 possibly?), rather than blocking the receiving of PMs.

However the site wrongly informs the sender that the recipient's InBox is full, instead of correctly informing the sender that they are blocked from sending PMs, which would be so much more helpful.

One of the many 'features' of PPRuNe.

Interesting, but would it not be more likely to have a 15 year FO that is useless in a meritocracy as they may have been passed over for command multiple times?

yes sorry that didn’t really make sense , I think I was trying to get at the fact of seniority scales . So you have a “senior FO” earning over 120k who is useless but is senior . That used to get at me

Makes perfect sense, can imagine it being frustrating. Have also heard from a few mates in 'Big Airways' that being 'useless' isn't solely the preserve of RHS crew. Not to turn this into a seniority debate but when friends outside of the business ask why I can't join BA/Virgin/TUI etc as a Captain, despite having been one for years, they are a little confused. They're even more surprised when I go on to explain i'd join at the bottom of the payscales as a year 1 FO (save perhaps for VS as SFO).

Recruitment adverts updated to only type rated candidates now for Boeing and Airbus

Could any current Jet2 pilots briefly outline the options available for part-time or unpaid leave etc. during the ‘quiet’ Winter season. TIA

What are the current wait times from application to first contact?

Winter just gone was up to 3 months (usually 2-5 months) off on half pay, full pension, leave adjusted accordingly , not guaranteed and was restricted at some bases this year. There are other options but they never seem as appealing.

But if you do want Winter options, or even permanent part-time working, temporary overseas base secondments (free holiday in the sun), Football / Rugby Charter night stops, contactable duties, and standby duties, then definitely don't become a Trainer with them.

that’s a shame I agree. It’s frankly hard to imagine how BA/TUI/Virgin have managed to survive with out you. Suggest writing to the DFO @big airways quoting your mates and tell him you’re available for immediate hire onto Pp24 LHS A350 as you’ve “been a Captain for years”.
Let us all know how you get on.

It’s this kind of attitude to job/lifestyle protectionism that makes aviation rather unique in the world of commerce/business. For example, You’re ok, because you’re on PP24, so f*%k everyone else below you.
I’m not aware of any other industry where someone with commensurate experience would be required to start back at the bottom of the ladder. To an outsider it does seem rather strange. One might argue it also caps pay and conditions, as airlines know they have a relatively captive workforce. If DEC/DE(S)FO were commonplace, airlines would have to offer the right package to recruit/retain workforce. Doubt this will change in my lifetime though.

that’s one of the reasons I left BA ! Guys like him stuck in a pipe dream and seniority bubble which HR absolutely love

Well I’m certainly not going to sit here and defend seniority, but there are pros and cons to everything. Having worked at two airlines without seniority - the downside was a system in which a significant element of the promotion process was being on good terms with the chief pilot, and being a yes man and not creating “issues” or being “awkward” (no guidance on what that might mean in practise!) This lead to less than ideal candidates being promoted.

In contrast, the current airline I work for has a very transparent command process which, yes, does of course partly depend on seniority, but has little to do with you being best mates with the chief pilot or head of training…

I think there’s pros and cons to both, and one makes one’s choices accordingly.

so why don’t pilots switch between companies that don’t have seniority? No seniority at Easy, Ryan or jet2 .

hold pool thread now seniority debate like most threads ha