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recall_checked 9th Mar 2018 13:33


Originally Posted by Snapper5 (Post 10045750)
1) Virgin Atlantic
2) RHS
3) A330
4) Less than a year (November ex Mon)
5) 12
6) 5 I think
7) 40
8) around £73,000 and thatís with 750hrs limitation which I find amazing
9) pension is 15% , around $800 downroute pay , great staff Travel and other perks , crew actually have a good time and socialise
10) Including down route expenses itís around £4500pm ,

Iím happy and lucky , night flights are pretty difficult but I always found them hard !

Happy with the Job security MUCH better than Monarch anyway 😂

Is that £4.5k before you have spent your down route allowances, or is that what you have left?

Snapper5 9th Mar 2018 16:05

Thatís with a few hundred spent downroute , you get the cash out on a card which you can do with as you please

Enzo999 10th Mar 2018 19:00


Originally Posted by Snapper5 (Post 10077838)
Ä2400 jeez !! Your BA colleagues basically do the same thing for £4K ? Looking at the way mr Cruz operates Iím sure that gap will be getting smaller (the wrong way)

And I am sure your colleagues at Hop, Joon, Transavia and Delta Conections all get paid less than you to do basically the same job. Still providing we all keep making money no need for panic just yet!!!

Snapper5 11th Mar 2018 08:29

I actually have to partially agree with you Enzo , thing I hate is that KLM/AF/Delta guys get paid quite a bit more !
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a [email protected] load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which Iím sure you know about

Whisperfail 11th Mar 2018 08:36

1) Nordic Carrier 

2) F/O
3) B737

4) Second year

5) 173 (had a few days off due to parental leave)

6) 45 in full year. 3-7/month

7) 835

8) 3800Ä/month

9) 200-600Ä/month (per diem payments, whereof some are taxable and some not)
-Pension of about 4,5% of salary is payed on top of the basic state pension. (% increase with higher income.)
-Company pays for all expenses with license, medical, uniforms etc. lol & extra medical insurense on top of the state is payed for by the employer. However some taxes are to be payed for those benefits.

10) total gross income 2017 ~50k Ä
- Net income after taxes was around 35k

Kind of high taxes where I live but it comes with some perks like payed parental leave up to a certain income (where basically all pilots hits the cap), and good vacation laws.

Enzo999 11th Mar 2018 10:51


Originally Posted by Snapper5 (Post 10079769)
I actually have to partially agree with you Enzo , thing I hate is that KLM/AF/Delta guys get paid quite a bit more !
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a [email protected] load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which Iím sure you know about

Itís a shame neither of us will ever get to experience the joys of working for Delta! I think you get my point, Vueling are no more colleagues of BA than Virgin is to Hop! Your constant little digs at BA and loving of Monarch, Virgin or who ever it is you currently work for is getting boring. Most people reading your sarcastic comments will simply put your bitterness down to one or several failed application attempts, if this is not the case then simply refrain from bad mouthing a company you have no connection to, that way you wont come across as so arrogant.

A320baby 11th Mar 2018 11:19

You never know, some of us might experience Delta one day

Snapper5 11th Mar 2018 13:16

Well I obviously no longer work at Monarch , perfectly happy with the way it has all worked out , loyal to Monarch until the end and now in Virgin . Admittedly I had applied to Virgin a number of times in the past !
Iím not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder

Wodka 11th Mar 2018 13:36

1) BACF
2) LHS
3) E190/170
4) 3yrs
5) LOTS
6) 10+ per month is normal
7) 700ish last year, more this year but high duty hrs
8) £74k basic + £6k duty = £80k
9) £2k London weighting + £3k avg. disruption (disruption £250 & day off = £500) + £1k bonus (whatever...)
10) £86k avg = £4500-4800 net avg.

A large gulf indeed from RYR/EZY et al... with increases in weekend & night flying, out of base operations and a probable future re-fleet, mgmt will not be able to hide behind the current excuses of aircraft size & productivity forever.

Enzo999 11th Mar 2018 13:51


Originally Posted by Snapper5 (Post 10079967)
Well I obviously no longer work at Monarch , perfectly happy with the way it has all worked out , loyal to Monarch until the end and now in Virgin . Admittedly I had applied to Virgin a number of times in the past !
Iím not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder

Itís not me making barbed comments about other peopleís employers!

felixthecat 11th Mar 2018 14:02

1) EK
2) LHS
3) 777
4) Lots
5) Approx 20 per month
6) 10+
7) 900 plus bunk time
8) £150,000 net (salary flight pay and housing)
9) Pension £15000
10) Tax free so £165000 including pension

Boeing 7E7 11th Mar 2018 14:43

What about the big US carriers? That would be very interesting to hear.

Lepo 11th Mar 2018 17:35

Just to give you guys a perspective of what happens in another part of the world.

1) Employer - GOL Linhas Aereas (Brazil)
2) FO
3) B737NG
4) 3 years of service
5) Usually between 10-13 days off a month.
6) Usually around 5-8 overnights a month.
7) 708h in 2017
8) Gross Income 2017: 160k BRL (around Ä40k)
9) Around Ä300-400 on per diem per month. Per diems are not taxed in Brazil.
Last year airline paid 0,5 salaries on profit share bonus. This year they're paying 0,65.
MyID travel available with tons of airlines.
10) 180k BRL (around 45k Euro)

skyblue738 11th Mar 2018 21:28


Originally Posted by Flocks (Post 10078008)
24000 euro a year, it is 2000euro a month, I hope it is after tax and they didn't ask you to pay your type rating ... And you did 899hours (there are really good at rostering ...)
I know we all need to start, but on a A320, knowing the airline (we all recognise) is working quit well, I don't understand why Europe pilot accept this stuff ...

Actually it's a little bit more, with stand by duty, hours in excess, etc. I forgot to consider that. On average, 2300 net.

Airlines which don't ask you to pay type rating... There aren't a lot.

Sfopilot207 12th Mar 2018 07:57

1) Alaska Airlines/ Virgin America
2) FO
3) A320
4) 2 yrs with the company
5) ~160 Days worked
6) ~ 110 overnights
7) 750 hrs
8) $76K USD
9) $15k USD (Profit sharing +Retirement)
10) $91K USD for 2017

INNflight 13th Mar 2018 23:03

1) Swiss
2) F/O
3) 777
4) 6 years
5) 130-160 maybe
6) 8-10 / month
7) looks like 600-700 p.a.
8) 105,000 CHF / year
9) 1000-1200 CHF per diem / month plus bonus and xmas money if we're lucky
10) ca. 120,000 CHF all in depending on bonus and per diems

hans brinker 14th Mar 2018 05:30

1) Airline employer: USA ULCC
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; A320
4) Years of Service with company: 5
5) How many days you worked: 15/month
6) How many overnights you had 11/month
7) How many hours you blocked 750/yr
8) Gross income: $195.000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) retirement $20.000. Per diem $6.000 both untaxed
10) Total gross income. +/- $220.000

All based on flying guarantee (basic schedule), I can normally drop half my schedule or pickup another 30-50 hours of credit (depending on reserve availability) @$210/hr if I want to.

GoodTimes 14th Mar 2018 09:44

Southwest
365k
36k retirement

Marlon Brando 14th Mar 2018 10:05

1) Airline employer: private owner
2) Seat : FO
3) Aircraft type; Challenger
4) Years of Service with company: 1
5) How many days you worked: 180 days
6) How many overnights you had: 180
7) How many hours you blocked : 350hrs
8) Gross income: $60000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) : 8000
10) Total gross income : 68000$

NXdude 14th Mar 2018 12:40

1) Air Macau
2) LHS
3) A320
4) 4 Years of service
5) 240
6) 4-6/month
7) 900
8) US$90k/year basic
9) 13th salary (by contract), 14th salary (discretionary), sector pay, duty pay, per diem, overtime, triple time on public holidays, housing allowance, laundry allowance, transport allowance, performance incentive.
10) US$200k before tax. Low tax regime gives US$190k after tax. Plus provident fund of 12.5% of basic salary on top, only payable in cash after every 4 years of service.


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