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Mister 13th Dec 2016 11:32

When did you do your assessment mate?.

Its the base negotiable for DECs or you gotta take the one they offer you on first instance?.

Thank you.

leced4u 13th Dec 2016 13:00

I did last Tuesday in Stansted, very relax.
Base is negotiable, especially if you already have a job like me.
You have to give 3 choices but you discuss that with them and make your point,
I never flew NG before but rented a Sim 2 hrs for preparation.
I would leave something better paid for joining RYANAIR.

leced4u 13th Dec 2016 13:02


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 9607855)
Friends based there were telling me around 7.000 net a month, on average.

Non negotiable.

Where do those figures come from?
Is there a payscale?

dirk85 13th Dec 2016 17:20

It's a ballpark figure given to me by friends based there on the italian ryanair contract.

Usaf 13th Dec 2016 18:49

Only if you fly a lot of domestic you reach 7k otherwise 6k average in the year.

samca 13th Dec 2016 19:52

Average under RYR contract is 6.000 Eur per month you pay taxes in Ireland and Italy as well, around 40% from your gross salary.
Did they offer you Mcginley during your interview??
Cheers

Luibar 13th Dec 2016 20:18


Only if you fly a lot of domestic you reach 7k otherwise 6k average in the year.
Are the domestic sectors taxed directly accordiing to Italy tax system or is it taxed according to Irish tax system and then ajusted at the year end with the declaration from the Irish authorities?

zerograv 14th Dec 2016 13:23


You will need for sure to fund your B737 TR but I do not believe you will be considered as a cadet.
Similar situation as "worktolive"

Anyone knows if it's possible to do a ZFTT rating, and much that would cost? Also, it would have to be done via CAE, correct?

Mister 15th Dec 2016 12:07

Anybody around who has been given base and start date for April as DEC?

Thanks and regards guys.

SanTelmo 21st Dec 2016 20:30

Hello Guys, I need some help too...
Recently, I have got a pass as DEC in RYR. They offered several base options and among these I am finally thinking in OPO. Anyone from OPO base that could give me an advice about how is the the percentage split concerning social security, tax in Ireland and tax in Portugal from the gross salary? I found some information about certain amount of money considered as per diem non taxable...to summarize, if somebody could talk in first person with generic details would be very much appreciated. Thanks!

KayPam 22nd Dec 2016 21:45

Hello

Could anyone come up with a simple unique figure of how much a Ryanair cadet pilot would make, on average ?
And the same guy but with 1500-2500 hours on the b737 ? (after the first one or two pay gaps)

I was never able to get a clear figure, maybe because of the diversity of the contracts offered ?

Thanks

Vokes55 23rd Dec 2016 10:37

Because there is no clear figure - it depends on how 'efficient' you want to be with your expenses.

However, as they are desperately short of pilots and the pay is by the hour, you'll certainly earn well doing your 900 hours in 10 months - although the contract has supposedly got worse since I jumped.

Don't focus on how much you'll earn, focus on how quickly you can get enough 737 hours to move to a real employer.

samca 23rd Dec 2016 11:03

Also the command time it depends of your base captain and base TRE, if they don't like your eyes color you will stay waiting until they want. It doesn't matter if you comes with previous experience, if in your last command assestment associated with your last LPC or OPC you are so lucky of having certains old TRE's in Stansted Simulator Training Center you will have to wait at least 1 year more at least for your upgrade...
Some bases the trainers are good profesional people in other could be a really bad dream. I signed with the company looking to my upgradre command in a short time, that was a year and a half ago. Last OPC was PASSED but the old wolf TRE from Stansted make me a Command Assestment and he didn't like. So now I have to wait another year (2sims more) for being recommended, and of course 0 help or motivation from my base captain or TRE.
When I think I declined an employment letter signed with QATAR on last January month I feel like a stupid.

doniedarko 23rd Dec 2016 16:25

Hey Samca

.....did you ever consider that maybe the 'old wolf' was correct....:E:

samca 23rd Dec 2016 22:09

Yes I tried several times BUT may be I'm not so smart to understand why some people in this company hate the pilots from OCC and loves their cadets. I'm not the only one coming from a different company and waiting for the command. Nobody of my OCC course is doing the Command Course. 1 year and a half and waiting... when I see in this forum people telling that in 6 months to 1 year you go straight to the Command Upgrade Course I just say I know nobody in that situation.
Maybe to much old Wolves in Stansted thinking that our previous experience is rabbish but their cadets are like golden... really funny

Lepo 24th Dec 2016 12:27

As far as I know Ryanair is only hiring cadets and DEC right now.

Any perspectives for DEFO in 2017?

samca 24th Dec 2016 12:45

They are hiring DEFO since more than 2 years ago and still doing.

kumbaya 25th Dec 2016 05:42

Is there really a difference in how they treat DEFO vs cadets ?
I am surprised because I was under the impression that they need experienced co-pilots / captain candidates.
Would really appreciate more information on this.

samca 25th Dec 2016 17:28

For DEFO the answer is YES, and yes of course they need you but be aware that your Upgrade can be really hard. Also it depends of the base you are, there are very good professionals that try to help you and motivate you for the CU. BUT I found some TREs in Stansted and some BC that is just the opposite. So if you are so lucky that you have a nice BC and TRE in your base is easier if not you are ....
Also when you try to analize the situation or make some questions in order to improve your weaks areas, you gonna receive ambiguous answers. So you don't know how, when and why...
A part of that the problem that I'm worried it is that getting a base in your country once you have passed the interview before to join the CU course is being really harder, as DEFO no problem for that but once you go through the CU interview be prepare for going outside. Now, they are offering mainly bases in Eastern Europe, south of Italy, Greece or Morocco. And the worse part is that you have to sign a bond for 2 years for your training. So my motivation is falling down very fast

doniedarko 28th Dec 2016 12:35

Knew lots of DEFO over the years and with the very odd exception nobody was upgraded in their first year. The usual time frame was 18+ months. I always felt it took at least that long to learn the 'Ryanair' way. Not SOPs or checks just an attitude.An attitude which is beaten into the ' golden' cadets from day1....IMHO


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