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Smooth Airperator 9th Nov 2017 07:51

I've heard that in practice many pilots are getting 11 and some even 12 days off per month. Also, very recently a new type of roster has been issued which gives a lot more STBYs at home.

According to their own admission, they are still working out how to roster for longhaul flights properly. They have plans to address the work/life balance but ultimately this cannot be done when you only have a couple of aircraft at a base and need W patterns to sustain the schedule in an economical and safe(delays) way.

Parkbremse 9th Nov 2017 10:14

The sim program is standard OPC material, very fair and something no trained pilot should have a problem with. The challenge lies in working properly with your colleague, who might be from a different nationality with a different cultural mindset, is used to different SOPs, is like you maybe not rated on the 737 etc... in a time pressed environment (Sim time is limited) Application of CRM is key and what recruiters primarily look for besides displaying a base level of flying standard.

Interview is pretty standard, no pitfalls here.

ProfessorSnape 9th Nov 2017 15:29

Could someone explain how the type rating bond works please.

Cheers

Smooth Airperator 9th Nov 2017 16:59

Very simple, you provide €35,000 up front paid into an account of the airline's/agency's choice and they pay it back by 1/3 every year up to 3 years. After 3 years, you owe nothing and get your money back and are free to leave if that's what you wish without penalty. Leave before and they keep the pro-rated amount.

If you are unwilling to pay the airline/agency then you can deposit into a bank account of your choice providing the bank can give the airline/agency a guarantee that they will be paid the cost of the training if you leave early. This way your money is safe in case the airline/agency disappear.

Not an easy thing to do, finding €35,000 but there you have it.

ProfessorSnape 9th Nov 2017 18:46

Thanks for the info - a non-starter for me

Sucram 9th Nov 2017 21:23

Thanks for the feed back Parkbremse, I'm a bit confused by the introduction email stating a "two part sim" and report 0600 ending at 1500, that seems a very long time for a sim and interview.

Speedbrakes Up 9th Nov 2017 21:42

Sucram,

Sims take place through the day, normally divided into 2 groups, interview etc in the morning, then sim in afternoon, or Visa Versa.

2 part sim, assessed as both PF and PM, so your in the box twice flying the same profile but once as PF and once as PM.

Sucram 13th Nov 2017 14:31

Many thanks for that Speedbrakes

Trampdave 14th Nov 2017 15:45


Originally Posted by Parkbremse (Post 9951563)
The sim program is standard OPC material, very fair and something no trained pilot should have a problem with. The challenge lies in working properly with your colleague, who might be from a different nationality with a different cultural mindset, is used to different SOPs, is like you maybe not rated on the 737 etc... in a time pressed environment (Sim time is limited) Application of CRM is key and what recruiters primarily look for besides displaying a base level of flying standard.

Interview is pretty standard, no pitfalls here.

Have I missed a twist of irony in your post Parkbremse?
A standard OPC in a cockpit you have never seen before, with no SOPs knowledge, with a guy in the same position like yourself that might not even understand what you re saying in a time pressed environment? Sure, piece of cake.
You re a genius and made my day bro :D

Quantity Surveyor 14th Nov 2017 19:40

Hi, Does anyone the rough LGW 787 FO gross pay per month ?

From looking at the pilot jobs network I can see the base pay is in Euros whilst the additional pay is in £'s ?

Thanks

Iver 19th Nov 2017 13:07

How often do you get internal transfers from the Norwegian 737 fleet to the 787 fleet? Are there many people out of LGW or other bases who have made the switch? Is there a defined path through the agencies or are the operations completely separate from a hiring perspective?

Parkbremse 19th Nov 2017 21:03


Originally Posted by Trampdave (Post 9956937)
Have I missed a twist of irony in your post Parkbremse?
A standard OPC in a cockpit you have never seen before, with no SOPs knowledge, with a guy in the same position like yourself that might not even understand what you re saying in a time pressed environment? Sure, piece of cake.
You re a genius and made my day bro :D

Great I made your day but sorry bro, you really think you must be a genius to fly a V1 Cut or a simple LOFT, followed by some decision making, approach, missed approach and NPA to landing to a safe standard, one time PF and and another time as PM?

alosaurus 9th Dec 2017 18:13

The rosters are...VERY slowly getting better. Ten days off still is the norm but now we have several promised changes (such as reserve days - 10 hour notice) replacing standby 80% of the time. This means the non UK based LGW crews can spend reserve days at home. As always though...will believe it when I see it on my roster.

Luggage 16th Dec 2017 08:18

FLL Crews for transfer
 
Are there any FLL crews who have transferred to Europe and how long does it take.

I live and work in the US but have been offered the 787 thru OSM.

Needless to say I am not a green card holder but have a work visa for the US thru my current company.

I would prefer to come back to Europe and take a base like BCN or FCO and wondering if anybody else was offered FLL but managed to just get a European base straight away.

In the US the bond is a 3 year service bond so no money up front which is a lot better and am hoping to transfer this deal over to Europe.

PM me if you wish to discuss anything privately and any help is much appreciated.

Also if you have any information on what a European flight schedule looks like for the 787 including days off/at home that would be great.:ok:

trancada 16th Dec 2017 16:38

But to be based in US, you need a green card.
They announced the opening of LAX base.
If you volunteer is it easy to get it after , for non-residents?

747 forever 17th Dec 2017 01:33

Hi guys,

sorry that this isn't necessarily related to the B787, but I wanted to ask if anybody knows whether or not Norwegian would be looking to recruit low hour pilots onto the B737 in Europe like they did in the past? There seems to be a lot of positions open at the minute for experience First Officers and as far as I'm aware they used to have low hour positions open previously.

Many thanks guys!

PLD 25th Jul 2018 20:52

29/10
 
Hi All,

Anyone got the confirmation for the 29/10 787 course, base in LGW?

Cheers

CaptainProp 30th Jul 2018 11:52

Virgin recruiting rated 787 FOs now. :ok:

CP

supergaleb 24th Sep 2018 08:59

Hello dear colleagues,

I am planing to joint the Norwegian Airlines on B787 non type rated, however I just have one doubt and I would appreciate if you could help me out. I've read all the previous threads... What I am concerned on: "What kind of agreement is offered after 3 years with global crew?"
Thank you so much!

Kind regards

supergaleb 24th Sep 2018 15:32

Thank you so much for a quick reply!
That is exactly what I am concern about.
​​​​​​​What are the conditions on the new contract after 3 years with global crew?


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