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highfive 2nd May 2017 09:23

Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

mackey 2nd May 2017 12:37

Bonds...

Its all in the contract and will be explained to you in detail during your initial Skype interview. You will be asked on skype how you intend to provide the funds.

Last I looked the DEC bonds ( bank guarantees) were :
€ 40k for unrated widebody ( eg airbus)
€30k boeing eg 767/744
€20k if 777 rated.(may have been dropped?)

I appreciate this but what I was asking, was did anyone know who the bank guarantee is with, which bank or banks?
Cheers.

Avenger 2nd May 2017 16:09

Normally a "bank guarantee" is written by your own bank, which means they are satisfied that you have the means to pay them back if they pay the airline money according to a default clause, In some cases airlines require a bank guarantee from a particular bank, if it is not your "normal bank" and you have no client history with them they may ask you to deposit funds equal to the guarantee in an escrow type account, which bears interest ( FWIW!) .A chum of mine required a letter of guarantee and the bank obliged after they took a second charge on his home..

highfive 3rd May 2017 03:46

Taking out a second mortgage on a home to allow you to join a company who pays a salary to allow you to pay off that very load is self defeating .
But its the way of the modern pilot ( society?) .
Debt debt debt ...

pilot hans 3rd May 2017 06:57

even when you're type rated they ask for a bond...
Atmosphere is good they say ;-)

Mr Angry from Purley 3rd May 2017 14:11

If its a great place to work you can either suggest no need to bond crews, or on the other foot no need to worry about bond (as long as you have it) when you're not going to move on...
Unless the losses continue to grow?

Push to talk 5th May 2017 18:04

Lot of interesting and creative talk here, but I do know RCA's in Norwegian can not log a single hour as PIC! You can have discussions if its right or wrong, but as an RCA you are just looking after the aircraft for the Captain and can't log it as PIC. It simply is fraude if you do as Norwegian doesn't let RCA's log their time in the captains seat as PIC. Being RCA is nothing more than a sort of senior FO in Norwegian.

Could an FO otherwise also log PIC time when the captain is in the toilet during flight with a two man crew? Right......

NineInchSnail 13th May 2017 07:19

You can say whatever you want about Norwegian LH, how good the working environment is, new planes....etc, at the end of the day 10 days off at home per month for a long haul operation seems very low to me. Most of the domestic low costs offer 12 days off. Flying a widebody should AT LEAST be able to accomodate the same. Looks like guys are currently getting a couple more days off in Scandinavia but this is still days away from home.....

twentyyearstoolate 13th May 2017 08:39

Been here as a Captain a few months now. Some people like it, but I don't.

10 days off and doing over 90 hours east west. First 3 years no overtime pay, so they work you as hard as they can. The times they maybe have a surplus of crew and the schedules aren't as busy you can expect no more days off than 10, but spare days to be standby.

Hotels by the most part are terrible, and the transport is usually a van where you only just fit. Sometimes theres not even enough seats if theres extra crew on training flights. Then a few have to wait for the return trip to get picked up, or agree to squeeze in illegally. Many places you have to call the Hotel yourself to arrange pickup!

Very nice colleagues to fly with, but i got to say I'll be looking for another job as this one is modern slavery.

kahaha 13th May 2017 16:27

Midnight cruiser, with that attitude , you will be outta the door my asian friend ;)

flyhigh788 20th May 2017 14:23

How much net can I expect as a FO on the 787?

As far as I understand, it's a contract with rishworth?

samca 20th May 2017 14:52

Answer 5000 net

flyhigh788 20th May 2017 15:14

So no deductions at all

Speedbrakes Up 20th May 2017 16:53

5000 net as a first officer....your dreaming right!

aless85 20th May 2017 17:34

I think Samca is right 5k Net in Euros though.

737 CL 20th May 2017 20:20

Hi, Anybody knows the Net Salary for Captain and Relief Captain under Rishworth contract?

samsara 22nd May 2017 14:57

Thats the gross figure without per diem .

Avenger 23rd May 2017 08:41

Thats about £4900 after tax then ( but without per diem) which could be taxed at a different rate

sirfly 24th May 2017 01:38

6. REMUNERATION

. 6.1 Employer shall for the period from the Commencement Date until the termination of this Agreement pay the Employee the monthly payments as follows:
(a) Salary of Captain GBP 7,470;
(b) The Employee can claim destination specific per diems to cover work related expenses for time the Employee spends away from Base outside the UK as part of their flight duties or on other official work-related business. The Employee can claim a maximum amount of GBP 830 per month as per diems based on rosters. Should the Employee claim more than GBP 830 in a month, the Employer may carry forward any excess to the following months until utilised or the current tax year ends, whichever comes first. Should the Employee claim less than GBP 830 per month, the Employer will add any excess carried forward from previous months. If this sum is less than GBP 830, then the difference will be paid as a taxable bonus; and
such payment to be prorated for any employment commencing or terminating part way through a month.

. 6.2 The payments specified in Clause 6.1 above are before Taxes and shall be paid in arrears. The above stated payments are the total remuneration payable to the Employee inclusive of all benefits and no overtime rates or additional payments will apply.

. 6.3 Payment shall be sent from Employer’s bank account to an account to be nominated by the Employee for each month of completed service, no later than the 28th day of the month of service (less any bank transfer charges payments if to more than one bank account, if any). Where the 28th day falls on a weekend or public or bank holiday, payment shall be sent on the next working day.

7. TAXES

. 7.1 The Employer shall be entitled to deduct any Taxes arising at Base or as required under the law of any other jurisdiction.

. 7.2 Subject to any deductions by the Employer in accordance with Clause 7.1 above, the Employee shall be responsible for all Taxes relating to the Employee or to this Agreement, and shall:

. (i) file all tax returns and pay any required Taxes as they fall due in any applicable jurisdiction; and

. (ii) provide the Employer with information requested by the Employer evidencing the Employee ́s tax and social security numbers and payment of Taxes in accordance with Clause 7.2 (i) above;

. (iii) indemnify the Employer and/or the Client in respect of any failure by the Employee to pay Taxes due or comply with any applicable laws and regulations.

Ethiopia 26th May 2017 16:41

Would any of you be so kind to tell us how a normal roster would be for a Cruise Relief Capt? Any chance to commute on days off or they are just spread single days off?

How long does it normally take to upgrade?

Thanks.


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