Would be quite interested as well. Plus a few more questions:

- what's the roster like at the minute
- as a RCA do you get to land the aircraft from the right seat
- they are advertising a base in AMS, how does that work out with no 787 there.
- the average take home pay for a RCA

Thanks for any info available!

What exactly is an RCA?

I know what it stands for but what's the difference between one and a suitably qualified SFO at BA or VS that acts as PIC whilst the captain is in the bunks?
Are they paid as captains minus a few %? Completed a command course?
What's the deal?

I assume it's more than just a :mad: title to stroke egos so people can pretend they're captains?

Roster
 

Could any 787 Norwegian drivers please pm me a typical month roster.

Same here if possible? Even if just indicative of blocks of tasking and locations flown to.

Is the 78 operating to KSWF? An old haunt of mine!

Looking also to have a look to the roster.

Thanks

As far as I've heard it's a small block of a 3 day trip (LAX) followed by 5 days off followed by 10-14 (!) days trip away followed by 5 off followed by 4 on. In the 10-14 day trip you are sent all over the network. Anybody on the inside can confirm if this is 'normal'?

What is the typical layover around the network? Sounds pretty good compared to what I am used to at my current employment. Is overtime in down time available from the 2 week published roster point?

How many days standby per month, and is this based on 2 hours/1 hour report?

Does anyone who applied in the last 6 weeks got any reply yet? Nothing here from Norwegian or Rishworth....

They're probably trying to decipher your grammar!

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Thanks for being so kind....

They do offer day off payments for overtime

Now offering people in the holding pool for the Dreamliner to fly B737 from DUB or EDI on an OSM contract. 787 training bond is reduced by 950€/month while on the 737. Seniority is counted from the day of entry on the 737 and can be transferred onto the 787. Paid accommodation while on the assignment.

They are offering 737 because they are desperate on that fleet too. You can say no without penalty. There is still plenty of movement wrt 787 hiring with dates of January being offered to latest joiners.

BTW, overtime payments are now here. Showing on a sample Global Crew contract I've seen. 1/10th of monthly salary paid as a daily rate.

Any idea of what kind of roster can you expect in the 787?

Is the same roster in all the bases or LGW guys get a few more days in base?

Thanks!

I hope you don't mind that I post the following here, but I'm curious if there are similar conditions for contracts at other B787 bases.
I was shown a copy of the contract for working for OSM in Florida. I have never seen such a document for a job. I can only imagine that it might apply to a very highly paid, very sensitive position at an internet startup, or such. When you resign, or are asked to leave, it seems to say that you cannot work for any other company that might pose any kind of competition to OSM, for the subsequent two years. In other words, you cannot work as a pilot (or other aviation profession) in any part of the world they operate after you leave the company.
Perhaps I misread it - and I cannot post it out of respect for the person to whom it was sent - but it is quite intimidating as I read it. It goes so far as to say that if it is not shown to be valid in court, it could still be enforced. There is no provision for a pay increase during the time of the contract (3 years). There is no facility for a pension contribution, by either the company or the employee. The contract is extendable by 1 year on a renewable basis, after the first three years.
I don't mean to be critical of the company, but i am curious if anyone involved has seen such a document before. I have read of non compete clauses in contracts in the US. However the restriction of two years after leaving seems a violation of a person's human right to work, and to provide for themselves.
There is a restriction on doing any kind of other work - self employed or otherwise.
I have heard that the work environment is quite good, and that the management are reasonable. I was told that at a road show, they prided themselves in being the opposite to a middle eastern company in how they treated their people.
I realise that a contract is most likely the product of what is allowed by the laws of the base you're in. But the spirit of this contract seems to be hostile to the employee, and contrary to the culture the company purports to promote.
Any thoughts?

Enter stage left....... Bondi.
There are hundreds of posts on numerous threads about OSM contracts.
RYR have replaced Norwegian as public enemy number one for the time being, but I doubt you will get many replies in defence.

Hi does anyone have any info on the format for the Sim assessment and interview in Oslo for a 787 DEC, thanks.

I know it keeps being asked...seemingly without a confirmed response so what is the standard roster on the 787? If it's true you do a 10-14 day block away, it's not exactly ideal if you have a family. Any truth in this? Thanks.

No good for families. No good for over 40s ! The roster could be upto 20 days away then a block of 10 off . From what I
saw. But it may have changed.

10days off a month not really worth it when many other options.

Contact Rishworth for example rosters and all the contract details for all the different bases. That's what they're for and they reply very quick.
The improved OSM contract after the initial 3 year contract seems to be a big secret though...

-Only 10 days off guaranteed. Given in blocks of 5+5 or 4+4+2 or random.
-Mostly W-patterns: From A to B to C to D to A.
-Some stand-by days to fill the gaps. Could be at home base or could be in a hotel somewhere else.

I've heard that in practice many pilots are getting 11 and some even 12 days off per month. Also, very recently a new type of roster has been issued which gives a lot more STBYs at home.

According to their own admission, they are still working out how to roster for longhaul flights properly. They have plans to address the work/life balance but ultimately this cannot be done when you only have a couple of aircraft at a base and need W patterns to sustain the schedule in an economical and safe(delays) way.

The sim program is standard OPC material, very fair and something no trained pilot should have a problem with. The challenge lies in working properly with your colleague, who might be from a different nationality with a different cultural mindset, is used to different SOPs, is like you maybe not rated on the 737 etc... in a time pressed environment (Sim time is limited) Application of CRM is key and what recruiters primarily look for besides displaying a base level of flying standard.

Interview is pretty standard, no pitfalls here.

Could someone explain how the type rating bond works please.

Cheers

Very simple, you provide €35,000 up front paid into an account of the airline's/agency's choice and they pay it back by 1/3 every year up to 3 years. After 3 years, you owe nothing and get your money back and are free to leave if that's what you wish without penalty. Leave before and they keep the pro-rated amount.

If you are unwilling to pay the airline/agency then you can deposit into a bank account of your choice providing the bank can give the airline/agency a guarantee that they will be paid the cost of the training if you leave early. This way your money is safe in case the airline/agency disappear.

Not an easy thing to do, finding €35,000 but there you have it.

Thanks for the info - a non-starter for me

Thanks for the feed back Parkbremse, I'm a bit confused by the introduction email stating a "two part sim" and report 0600 ending at 1500, that seems a very long time for a sim and interview.

Sucram,

Sims take place through the day, normally divided into 2 groups, interview etc in the morning, then sim in afternoon, or Visa Versa.

2 part sim, assessed as both PF and PM, so your in the box twice flying the same profile but once as PF and once as PM.

Many thanks for that Speedbrakes

Have I missed a twist of irony in your post Parkbremse?
A standard OPC in a cockpit you have never seen before, with no SOPs knowledge, with a guy in the same position like yourself that might not even understand what you re saying in a time pressed environment? Sure, piece of cake.
You re a genius and made my day bro :D

Hi, Does anyone the rough LGW 787 FO gross pay per month ?

From looking at the pilot jobs network I can see the base pay is in Euros whilst the additional pay is in £'s ?

Thanks

How often do you get internal transfers from the Norwegian 737 fleet to the 787 fleet? Are there many people out of LGW or other bases who have made the switch? Is there a defined path through the agencies or are the operations completely separate from a hiring perspective?

Great I made your day but sorry bro, you really think you must be a genius to fly a V1 Cut or a simple LOFT, followed by some decision making, approach, missed approach and NPA to landing to a safe standard, one time PF and and another time as PM?

The rosters are...VERY slowly getting better. Ten days off still is the norm but now we have several promised changes (such as reserve days - 10 hour notice) replacing standby 80% of the time. This means the non UK based LGW crews can spend reserve days at home. As always though...will believe it when I see it on my roster.

FLL Crews for transfer
 

Are there any FLL crews who have transferred to Europe and how long does it take.

I live and work in the US but have been offered the 787 thru OSM.

Needless to say I am not a green card holder but have a work visa for the US thru my current company.

I would prefer to come back to Europe and take a base like BCN or FCO and wondering if anybody else was offered FLL but managed to just get a European base straight away.

In the US the bond is a 3 year service bond so no money up front which is a lot better and am hoping to transfer this deal over to Europe.

PM me if you wish to discuss anything privately and any help is much appreciated.

Also if you have any information on what a European flight schedule looks like for the 787 including days off/at home that would be great.:ok:

But to be based in US, you need a green card.
They announced the opening of LAX base.
If you volunteer is it easy to get it after , for non-residents?

Hi guys,

sorry that this isn't necessarily related to the B787, but I wanted to ask if anybody knows whether or not Norwegian would be looking to recruit low hour pilots onto the B737 in Europe like they did in the past? There seems to be a lot of positions open at the minute for experience First Officers and as far as I'm aware they used to have low hour positions open previously.

Many thanks guys!

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Hello dear colleagues,

I am planing to joint the Norwegian Airlines on B787 non type rated, however I just have one doubt and I would appreciate if you could help me out. I've read all the previous threads... What I am concerned on: "What kind of agreement is offered after 3 years with global crew?"
Thank you so much!

Kind regards

Thank you so much for a quick reply!
That is exactly what I am concern about.
​​​​​​​What are the conditions on the new contract after 3 years with global crew?