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Chesty Morgan 31st Oct 2015 18:40

It obviously doesn't happen to everybody, perhaps there are reasons people don't hear back. Did you stop to think about that?

drag king 31st Oct 2015 19:21


Did you stop to think about that?
I did and I think it shows lack of organization and respect towards those that bothered to fill the form and attend their open days, especially when you had been promised at the same open-day that you'd not have been hanging on for much more than 4 weeks.

To say no thanks but no can't be that hard and should not take months.

However we shall respectfully and patiently wait.

DK :=

The Crew 1st Nov 2015 01:52

Yep many uk airlines recruiting and my experience is that they tend to operate in a similarly disrespectful manner. I blame social media. All airlines want to play the "keep options open" so rather than have a closing date and notification period, they just play dumb. Then if the first guys selected pull out, they can move to the next lot. And with BA in full flow, this will happen more often than not.

I was offered a bunch days to interview for Jet2 . They seem to think we can just come up with a day or two off roster like that.

We dont all sit around on our a$$es all winter , most of us are full roster.

Helps me think what i have now, id be daft to give up . Thank you J2 , Ryan and ThomasC.

PressTheTit 1st Nov 2015 13:14

Ah just read this threat for the first time, applied ages ago. Profile says my application is still under review (so assume I passed the online tests), also got the email about 2 months ago saying I should hear from them in approx 4 weeks.
Does anyone know what's happening at Jet2 with regards to recruitment? is there still any chance this year?
Does application still under review = PFO?:(

fullforward 1st Nov 2015 17:11

Hi Press
 
Mind to tell what you've applied for and your exp level?

Good luck!

PressTheTit 1st Nov 2015 17:15

NTR 737 FO.
Ex mil 2000hrs majority light ME turboprop

max_drift 1st Nov 2015 19:10

My application still shows under-review.

Applied shortly after opening, attended an open day and got all the usual comms. Had the same issues last year, 5 months to get a PFO so not holding my breath this time around.

Looking for NTR FO. 2500 TP in the book and I live within walking distance of a Scottish base. We'll see, but...

I suspect I'm far from alone.

Skystar02 1st Nov 2015 19:23

Hi guys,

I will tell you my experience with Jet2 and my opinion.

I applied, I filled up their forms and submitted all documents they required. After that, I did the ridiculous psico test. After a month I recieved the "now famous" mail telling me that in four weeks I would get an answer from them. Time passed, and finally almost eight weeks later, I got an email from jet2 telling me they decided not to continue to the next step with my application. Maybe those stupid tests were not so ridiculous...:ugh: or perhaps my profile didn't match, or who knows... My flight experience is more than 4000 hours, near 3000 of medium jet and some other from heavy turboprop. All as a First officer.

In my opinion they should explain better (or some) what they are really looking for. They want you to apply, to spend too much time in front of the computer filling up their forms and subimitting documents etc, but they don't say a :mad: about what they really want or how the process is. They should consider your life and what means to accept a new job, in case they say yes.

I apologise for my languange buy I had a bad week...

:ok:Good luck to those who are accepted and accept the job. Maybe you can show some light for future candidates.

HeartyMeatballs 1st Nov 2015 19:58

For me I applied for NTR FO. Have 1600 ish hours on a A320. Did the tests, found the maths a bit tricky and the psycho test (all 220 questions). Still showing as under review. In the end I didn't get to go to one of their open days.

Honiley 1st Nov 2015 21:59

Guys - Scratching has mentioned it, why are you queuing to join this company?

There are better options now in the UK, with Northern bases too! Most of this recruitment is down to how many pilots have left/leaving - does this not ring any bells!!?!

Unless you need a job/live next to a J2 base (and job satisfaction not required due other interests!), that is all its good for! Worst T&C's, even worse culture...

Chesty Morgan 1st Nov 2015 22:39

Honiley, I'm afraid that you're incorrect.

The answer to your first question is most likely because they can and because they want to and is also likely to be none of your business. I'm pretty sure most people are sensible enough to ignore the bitter ramblings of a has been and do some research when they're making career choices and in the end the decision is theirs to make.

The answer to your second question is yes, it does ring some bells (a phrase which means "sounds familiar" by the way). It is reminiscent of what happens at every other airline in the world. People leave, people join and it's a perpetual cycle with peaks and troughs. I'd hazard a guess that your poorly constructed, grammatically incorrect bovine faecal matter won't stop it.

How long is it since you left anyway? You're thoroughly out of the loop and irrelevant chap.

Ta ta.

Honiley 2nd Nov 2015 08:03

All posted with LSM in mind and knowing he'd never resist the opportunity to bite! Never disappoints...

Good luck to all who wish to join, one day the all powerful HR may get it right!

CaptainSensible 2nd Nov 2015 15:10

Nobody does that. You just put the competition out of business and then step in and pick up the bits you want

heliusac 2nd Nov 2015 21:26


There are better options now in the UK, with Northern bases too!
Do tell, where are all these prime jobs then? Where can you get a medium jet job in the UK if you are NTR especially as a DEC?

By the way Manchester is not a Northern base to many of us!:ok:

Big Tudor 2nd Nov 2015 21:49

Ah Honiley dear chap. Nice to see you have rediscovered your sense of humour, even if it is only a sense.

By your admission you do not, and never have, worked for Jet2 and yet you seem free and easy with your disparaging comments about the company and individuals employed there, all the while skulking under your cloak of anonymity. Such behaviour does little to endear you to others, and does even less to improve the image of the pilot profession within the industry. But then again you just don't care who you upset do you, just as you do little to verify facts before spreading your own brand of misinformation and negativity?

Never fear chaps. Air Honiley will soon be along, promising life changing T's&C's whilst cocking a snoop at the pesky ne'er-do-well's who condemn the business model as doomed to failure. Honiley will show all those incompetent airline CEO's how it should be done. All aboard the fantasy bus. :hmm:

HeartyMeatballs 6th Nov 2015 16:52

I got an email today stating that they have had huge levels of interest in recruitment. The email did make is clear that they are actively recruiting still and positions are still available.

highfive 8th Nov 2015 02:00

As ive stated before, there is a huge exodus of easa , cashed up pilots from the gulf airlines. Many left the UK/ Europe 15-20 years ago. They can work for pocket money. No mortgage. Huge global experience.
Whats not to like ?
Still , i cant understand the need for continued full page ads in Flight by J2.
Unless they bought the space in bulk , not expecting much interest ...

Cuillin Hills 8th Nov 2015 03:19

You'll work it out, eventually, high-five.

PressTheTit 10th Nov 2015 07:32

Does anyone know what deal NTR FOs are being / been offered most recently? Read this undated "GEN" on PPJN
:
Now only offering 100% contract with 3 year reducing bond. Reduced contract available on request.

This is far better than, 4 months half pay while training then 70% for a year.

Thanks

heliusac 13th Nov 2015 19:59


Now only offering 100% contract with 3 year reducing bond
Not true, 70% contracts offered in the past few weeks.

drag king 14th Nov 2015 10:01


I got an email today stating that they have had huge levels of interest in recruitment. The email did make is clear that they are actively recruiting still and positions are still available.
Those emails are like the out-of-office ones. Not paying attention anymore...

DK :*

JM926 25th Nov 2015 11:58

Sector Pay...
 
Can any current employees comment on the latest update (always looked at sceptically) to PPJN with regards to f/o sector pay.


Jet2.com pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools


The update suggests f/o sector pay being increased to meet that of captains. That would be more than doubling the current figures for f/o sector pay.


Anyone know if this update is indeed accurate and correct?

zerotohero 25th Nov 2015 15:57

I highly doubt that

Flying Wild 26th Nov 2015 06:41

Nothing been announced or heard formally.


Originally Posted by JM926 (Post 9191338)
Can any current employees comment on the latest update (always looked at sceptically) to PPJN with regards to f/o sector pay.


Jet2.com pilot jobs news for airline pilots and aviation schools


The update suggests f/o sector pay being increased to meet that of captains. That would be more than doubling the current figures for f/o sector pay.


Anyone know if this update is indeed accurate and correct?


2 Whites 2 Reds 26th Nov 2015 08:04

Many resignations in, many more in the pipeline. Even the Apprentices are looking around apparently. A substantial (at least 10%) payrise for both seats maybe the only way to temporarily stem the flow while some of the other issues are addressed. But a time when a certain members of senior management are apparently not talking to each other, don't expect much to improve. The very experienced Captains at Jet2 always said it was a company that desperately needed to grow up. How right they were!

To be honest, I enjoyed my time at Jet2 thanks to the people I had the pleasure of working with day to day. We had a really good gaggle of people at my base but when all's said and done, the company is an amateur circus with bottom of the market T's and C's. Go in with your eyes open people!

mini-jumbo 26th Nov 2015 10:36

Nothing formally announced, so whoever put it on PPJN is purely speculating - or maybe it's been put there to entice more applications - who knows?

Plenty of rumours surrounding increase in pay and terms, but rumours are just rumours - most of us don't believe it until it actually appears in practice. The 10% pay rise one has been going around for months - plenty of time for some official communication to either confirm or deny from the powers to be but silence is the chosen method of communication.

The only thing certain, is that there are still lots of people actively looking for other jobs, whilst many people who have applied are still waiting for news of any kind - and I can't see that trend changing until the company grows up and realises how big it has become.

Day to day working is good fun, with a great bunch of guys and gals, the company just needs to grow up.

JB007 26th Nov 2015 11:33

Zenon looking for summer contractors too! Email & phone call yesterday!

highfive 26th Nov 2015 13:18

Its all supply n demand . Period.
The companies " only " 13 years old, should they be forgiven for being lime i assume they are?
If you are having fun atwork then thats 90%
all its about ?

A and C 26th Nov 2015 13:42

Mini-Jumbo
 
When I left Channel Express in 1999 that is exactly how I described the place, nice bunch of people to work with but the system needs to grow up.

It would seem little has changed !

Marcus Absent 26th Nov 2015 15:09

Pay Rise
 
It appears that the Zenon pay has increased by approx 10%, giving rise to the speculation that full timers may also benefit. Somehow though.........

Ivan aromer 26th Nov 2015 16:11

Jet2
 
Something is going on; the share price is doing very well. Phillip will be back in the Sunday Times rich list again!

Ivan aromer 26th Nov 2015 17:56

Code:

Someone buying Philip out?
Shouldn't think so!
I understand that he has 42,000,000 shares so dont think he will be after a Wonga loan any time soon!

Johnny F@rt Pants 27th Nov 2015 11:17


Something is going on; the share price is doing very well. Phillip will be back in the Sunday Times rich list again
Suspect it's all related to the interim trading reports showing record profits.

Honiley 27th Nov 2015 18:46

Bless old Johnny! Still can't see past the 'cool-aid'...

Meeson has nothing else in his life, he won't sell...

highfive 28th Nov 2015 03:19

Dont get too excited ...
" However, increased losses are to be expected in the second half of the year as our expanding Leisure Travel business invests in additional aircraft, advertising and people in readiness for the summer 2016 season. "

H44 28th Nov 2015 08:19

Yes, it's the challenge of being able to grow the summer profit to offset the ever expanding winter loss that will be key. The big unknown thrown into the mix next year will be the large investment in brand new aircraft - a big change from their previous operating model. Will be interesting to see if they really can utilise these aircraft efficiently enough to cover their large lease costs and/or loan repayments.

Johnny F@rt Pants 28th Nov 2015 14:37


Bless old Johnny! Still can't see past the 'cool-aid'...
Whatever........

We're all sick of hearing it Honiley, you're like a stuck record:\:rolleyes::\:rolleyes:

Honiley 28th Nov 2015 18:37

Perhaps light aircraft are more your thing Council...say a DO228!?!

Big Tudor 28th Nov 2015 19:01

And some people's inter-personal skills mean cargo flying is more their thing.

Honiley 28th Nov 2015 20:46

How funny, people working for Big Phil talking about 'people skills'...


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