How strange,
when i commented that the tests, in my opinion were "Stupid" i was labelled as, not suitable, a w***er and a crm nightmare, despite having over twenty years airline experience, and another five in corporate, never having failed anything and always been marked up on crm skills in any sim I've done. Ive flown heavies in the monsoon and all over the world as well, and now back on 737,s to some very challenging destinations. Stop trying to sell Jet2 as something its not.. its not the RAF or BA or a flying club where you all go out and have a few jars after work, its an airline a very small one, which, by all accounts needs a lot of pilots. If it is as good as some of you make out then why are so many guys leaving? I know a lot of experienced guys rated on type who are infinitely suited to your operations who have fallen foul of the tests or your HR Heavy Brigade at interview. I passed your interviews, i just wasn't lured by the likely offer of a part time contract, 70% pay whilst line training and the chance to double my commute by being dual based in Scotland, thats why i couldn't be bothered to finish off the tests, but had i have done so i would have become a "top chap" overnight. |
Just to clarify, type rated people offered 100% in general, with option of 70% (your choice). No dual basing - EASA prohibit it.
I am not selling the company line - for some of us it works and is a good option. No I am not management or ex-military. From experience, the tests are a good filter..... |
I think if i recall they sold it as being based EDI and fly out of GLA, or the other way around, that kept it legal, saying that you would "only" consider three base choices got you a minus re being flexible, 70% was the contract offered but advised to reject it and see, again a minus on the interview sheet, and a solid non negotiable 70% pay whilst line training. Quote "won't take long" unquote, and we all know thats a crock as well.
we will have to disagree on the testing. |
Jet2
Yes the T&C are infinitely flexible, depending on how many they require. Some time ago I had signed a single base contract and they changed it to dual base two days later. They were quite miffed when I declined!
As one of the CRM bods mentioned the goal posts are fitted with very efficient castors! |
Thanks to Paddingtons wellies
( great user name, how the hell did you come up with that ? ). Anyway appreciate your input, good to know, thought I would say thanks. Too many people on here are very quick to criticise . Not often we see well balanced posts that are helpful, I have moaned about the process and it does depress me, but thanks for the balance.....
I have no way of telling, but are lots of people leaving Jet 2? Above average attrition? Any thoughts why if that's true ? |
I can't comment on the company much because I haven't been working for them long enough yet to make a fair assessment, although it has been refreshing in a good way so far.
What I will say though is that I told them I would only take 1 of two bases, I was asked if I would be interested in 70% and I said no and then a couple of weeks after that I was offered a 100% contract in my first base of choice with no reduction in salary during training - 100% from day dot. Line training was also not a prolonged affair not that it mattered due to the above. Hope this helps clear a couple of things up. |
In terms of the Maths and English tests, I have been helping with recruitment for several years and I do not know of anybody who has not got into the company just because of these tests. They do have to be passed, but if everything else is good we will allow another attempt. Over the years I can not think of a single case of anybody who has been declined just on the basis of the Maths/English tests, if all the pilot assessed elements have been passed. Sim test - 'acid' test, can you fly and work as a team!!! I hope Jet2 are not missing a trick here and failing perfectly good pilots who may just not have been up to speed in (uncontrolled) exam conditions? A friend of mine had his wife's 'phone go off unexpectedly and despite the fact that she was at the other side of the house it was a distraction. Hard to guarantee a perfect performance in all cases (he 'failed' the tests by the way). All the airlines I have worked for ensured exam-like conditions on their premises and to be honest the adrenaline building up in an exam room cannot be replicated in the comfort of ones home. Easy to moan when you fail, but when it appears unnecessary it is all the more disappointing I'm sure. |
Hi,
Can someone tell me about the 70% contract? Many Thanks BD |
Think Thomson have got it spot on with regards the interview day.
Group exercise, individual flight planning and problem solving exercise and tech test in the morning followed by interview with a couple of pilots in the afternoon. If successful and not type rate then a sim ride at a later date..Very relevant and practical. |
Yep ..........
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Jet2 Interviews
Does anyone have any information on the Jet2 interview in Leeds, what questions, format to expect and any info on the sim check? Much appreciated.
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One question guys.. Where you all provided with an automated mail saying your Reference Number right after creating an account on jet2careers.com?
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I thought recruitment for summer would be all done and dusted by now?
Serious question.. Do they have enough crew to run their summer schedule. Do they have enough training capacity to cope with the turnover of pilots. |
Sim checked a week or so ago for the DEC 738, phoned day after saying that the sim check was successful but still waiting for the 'yay or nay'. Does anybody have any experience of how long they take to make a decision and get back to you or is it a case of no news is bad news?
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Originally Posted by happy eater
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Sim checked a week or so ago for the DEC 738, phoned day after saying that the sim check was successful but still waiting for the 'yay or nay'. Does anybody have any experience of how long they take to make a decision and get back to you or is it a case of no news is bad news?
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If you be passed the sim and interview, then you'll probably be in the DEC pool - basically seeing where and when they can fit you in.
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Don't accept anything other than a full salary. Even BA can't recruit enough staff.
Companies making record profits and paying CEOs £29,000 pm net can afford it. |
Is there a summer only or part time option at jet2?
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Originally Posted by tdk90
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Is there a summer only or part time option at jet2?
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Tinker
If you want to earn 29k a month go do it. These guys are feeding your family and 24/7 commercial pressure. What happens when you switch your engines off?. Jack all. |
Originally Posted by Normal Pilot
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Having said that I did not take the job as the base they offered me was no good. My only complaint is that if all bases are not on offer, then don't advertise them as being available.
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Try again in a while, recruitment will be ongoing I suspect and more aeroplanes arriving mean more pilots needed.
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Normal.
Well done for taking the broad view and bothering to post it. Mostly all you hear about is the bad experiences. Not just J2, it's just the nature of forums. As Johnny said, maybe keep trying. |
I attended their interviews recently and had a loverly hour long tour of their "call centre".
Then some loverly instant coffee in the corridor. Then a loverly big room with a group excersise about walking on the moon. Then a loverly video on how well they love their " customers" , the cream of the north I'm sure. Then i was offered their loverly 70% contract , and was on my way home. I have several videos of their psychometric and aptitude tests that i took when i applied online . Including all the 120 personality questions. If anyone is interested i will upload to you tube for your viewing pleasure 😜 |
What experience levels do those who have recently joined as DEFO have?
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Variety, a lot of guys from Ryanair, Flybe and Eastern and a bunch of direct entry captains from the Middle East
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I got my annual jet 2 call from the recruitment agency last week....... Thanks but no thanks says I.
But for those of you without jobs the fact they are still recruiting is good news. |
Everybody at Jet2.com happy?
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Yup. Thanks for asking.
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Yes thanks, a nice fat pay rise, extra bits and pieces offered, home base with mostly shortish days and a rostering team that always seem happy to help me out.
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Me too. Did my last flight a week last Tuesday. And I still don't fly until next Thursday. Crewing helpful in a crisis.
Best job in the world |
I'm very happy thank you. I've had 5 flights this month and have 5 next month. Had a pay rise this month too! When I do fly, I'm home every night, so no complaints here.
I'd agree that the rostering/crewing teams are helpful whenever I've had to make requests outside of the bidding system. Don't get me wrong, I know that the summer is coming and it's going to be pretty busy and probably painful for 3-4 months. The winter slow down more than makes up for it in my opinion. |
All happy here.
Nice off you to ask Daddy Oh. Have a good weekend. |
Yup happy also.
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With everyone here talking of little flying and a recent chat I had with a CP who did one (!) day of flying in January and who had 12 rostered days off this month (no leave or anything, just rostered days off), do you ever worry that the music may suddenly stop one day? It can't be an efficient way to run the business. Will this be sustainable when the new aircraft start coming in? It wouldn't make business sense to have them (and their crew) sat idle for months at a time with the mortgage to pay on the airframe.
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It will be busier next year no doubt, but in the mean time.......
Most of the airframes are bought and payed for. |
Seeing as you are a current jet2 757 Manchester captain Daddy-Oh. Why do you ask if people are happy? Did the Norwegian application get turned down?
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So, a strange public out-pour of happy-clapping, that no other airline feels the need to do, all started by a current member of Flight Crew?!
It really is a childish, weird company! |
What do you mean?
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I think he's just disappointed that we seem to be content and he couldn't get in.
I didn't think it would be long before these two to showed up with their usual spiteful behaviour. |
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