BA need around 200 Airbus rated DEP's right now. Pilots who can do the abbreviated conversion course with minimum sectors/fuss. So if you're being asked back sooner than you thought, there's your answer in black and white.

power.on.spin

August last year

Best of luck. Now you know what to expect you'll be fine.

Has anyone with no a320 TR been able to reapply before the 12months?

It appears they want A320 rated only. I'm non rated and got to the Sim last year. I can see why there's the requirement and its great people are being given an early second shot. Are guys getting a recall just to redo the sim? What does it mean for future attempts for non rated people as and when? A change to the recruitment process like that being used for Type rated people on further attempts?

HP,

BA is a simple beast and they go for the path of least resistance first. Let the type rated tranche die down first and then wait and see what their next cunning stunt will be.

You might be pleasantly surprised. :ok:

Very much hope so.

I'm in that exact situation HP.

If they only want rated applicants why did they advertise for Managed Path military people? Do they get an A320 type rating when they leave?

The DEP and managed entry is open but the above is referenced to people who didn't get through selection in the last round getting contacted to reapply inside of the 12 month reapplication ban. Those that have been contacted so far are all A320 rated.

Thanks Harry - I just wondered why not invite none type rated people too. Surely that ex military people are also none rated?

The pilots applying under the managed path option have a very long lead time before they can actually start their employment with BA. Unlike DEP who generally have a 1-3 months notice period, the armed forces have one which could be anything up to a year. Hence why managed path is probably open since successful candidates will only slot in somewhere over the next twelve months (on the line for summer 2016). While at the same time the rated DEP pilots are fast tracked because of the current requirement for Airbus pilots.

Not a large number, but RAF Voyager/A330 crew with the required previous experience, can get an EASA ATPL with Airbus Type Rating, (A330/350)with the Course. AirTanker is also a civil ATO with EASA rated Instructors.

The military managed path, RAFCARs as it used to be known, has a long lead in time for the participant. For example the process starts when the applicant is within the last 2 years of their military service.

Oddly enough it is quite tricky getting an EASA licence on anything the military flys except for the Voyager which is run by a civvie company! The RAF managed to spectacularly mismanage the alleviations process from National to JAR to EASA. Go figure.

BA has a history of sourcing from a wide variety of backgrounds, Cadets, Self Improvers, DEP's and Military. Given the large amount of ex-military pilots in the mamangement food chain I wouldn't expect that to change even though the source of ex-military pilots is slowing to a trickle as the vicious defence cuts over the past 2 decades take their toll.

As the recruitment of Managed Path applicants often runs non concurrently to DEP applications there can be no correlation between the two. The process only allows direct access to Braincrank for interview, often without a valid civvie licence. The application process and timeline take this into account.

I'm sure that non-type rated re-applications will occur if and when the flow of necessary type rated applicants is exhausted. Rumour has it that, for reasons given in a previous post, the number of overall applications wasn't overwhelming!

Has anyone been recalled just to attend the Sim or day two? Certainly interesting times at BA.

I know one lad that passed day one and has been asked to redo the interview only...ie pick up from there on day 2..

I take it he's also A320 rated too? Any indication of how many are being recalled?

I was invited last week, I checked the slots available, all were for 22nd, 23rd, 24th of June. I will be on duty in my current roster during those dates so I wasn't able to pick them. Now when I login there aren't any slots available.

I've emailed them but no reply thus far.

Does anybody have any idea how long an invitation to assessment day 1 is valid for? I guess not as long as I'm currently hoping for but just wondering if anyone could share.

Invitation is valid as long as recruitment is open I would suspect, but can not confirm.

As for the discussion about recalls and why non rated are not being recalled, don't over complicate the situation with theories or discussions on military V DEP etc. BA need pilots on the line now. Naturally the first port of call is to target rated pilots.

If that does not work obviously the net naturally needs to be extended. Patience.

I see the DEP application has reopened again closing on the 8th of June! Still inside 12 months, unless the recall reaches non rated people. Are they just not getting the numbers applying that's required for 2015?

If they only want 320 rated, why then advertise for A320/A350/747/757/767/777/787 pilots.

I know I'm bad at verbal reasoning but even I read this-

'The majority of postings will be as an A320 First Officer based at London Heathrow. There may also be opportunities to join our A320 fleet at London Gatwick or our longhaul fleets subject to your experience.'

I don't read that as only wanting A320 rated.

;)

Exactly. This thread could be misleading some folk from applying.

You'd have to read every post on the last 83 pages to know if this 'thread' has been misleading. The last couple of pages have been us talking about guys like myself that applied and failed at the assessment stage last year, who are now being emailed back early (prior to the normal 12 month minimum reapplication period) to give it another go. Most, if not all the people this has happened to in the last week have failed either day 1 or 2 and are currently A320 rated.

I'm not A320 rated, hence haven't been emailed, but reading the last few pages of this forum over the last week or so and assuming we are talking about the entry requirements posted on BA's recruitment page today, is where your confusion begins.

:)

This is a forum where facts and rumours become confused. It should be obvious to anyone applying for any job to read the advert with a fine tooth comb instead of pprune:} . I was surprised at the amount of colleagues who didn't understand 737 pilots could apply in one recent recruitment window. There was also a requirement for a cover letter in one previous window which several people seemed to miss out on because they weren't bothered enough to read:confused:

Have many more been contacted to reapply early? Interesting its reopened again so early. Still within the 12 months for me, very much hope that changes for non rated people.

No slots available
 

I've applied and been asked to attend the first assessment. When I try to book it tells me there are no slots available.

Is anyone else in the same boat or had a similar experience?

Thanks

JStone, I'm in the same situation as you. No slots available for over a week now, maybe we missed the boat!

Just received email this morning from BA stating that assessment slots will be available from next week

Having just read the Norwegian thread currently ongoing, I couldn't help but wish the guys/girls above the best of luck with their interviews. You may get one of the few remaining decent #careers# left in aviation. Most of the rest is joining the race into financial oblivion.
Thankfully, only five years to retirement for moi!

City Flyer
 

Does anyone have any RECENT and positive info on the City Flyer assessment day?

City Flyer thread says see main line thread, but I have been reading for an hour and found nothing?

Appreciate any info as only a week to prepare

Thanks

Off topic but there's nothing positive to say about their interview process from what I experienced in 2011. It's a total mickey mouse ordeal, that tries to copy the BA mainline one.

Maths, verbal tests and the group exercises are what they are. The interview however was almost insulting they way they hashed together a few people not busy in the office that afternoon. Mine was conducted by an FO who had less hours then I did at the time, and some spotty 18 year old temp it seemed, neither of which had clearly ever interviewed someone before, and hadn't even read the questions someone had nicely laminated for them. One read them while the other tried to write down your answers for someone else to read at a later date I presume.

For a cadet I'm sure it's cool, but as someone applying with experience, I could have been made to feel somewhat wanted a bit more then the show they put on.

They're not a real airline

BA Mainline
 

DEP numbers for 2015 set to rise from 311 - 362.

Good Luck to everyone who is applying!

24th May
 

Hi Guys, has anyone had a response who applied on the closing day of May 24th ?
I have received acknowledgement of my application but I suppose no news is good news eh ?
anyone have any different info ?
:ok:

manflexsrsrwy, it took nearly 9 weeks for me to hear back and get the invitation to Stage One after my application in October, so I wouldn't worry. I know others for whom it took even longer. BA, unlike many others, do actually respond to every application. It would seem that the length of time it takes them to get back to you offers very little indication of whether they are interested or not.

All the very best with the application.

thanks ....

I heard BA is to launch Pilot Recruitment Roadshows starting with LGW in June :)

I've got the invitation for Stage One, however now I'm sick, my screening date is around the corner and there very little chance for me to attend the day. I will phone them to deal with this, but I would like to know if anybody else had the same misfortune in the past. Did you manage to postpone the assessment?

Thanks in advance

Papa_Golf in my experience British Airways are very flexible when it comes to rescheduling people who need to postpone their date. Just call them up as per the details on your invitation. If there are no dates available you may have to wait a while - you will just have to log into the online portal as you did to book the initial date.