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Papa_Golf 4th Jun 2015 18:19

Widebody thank you very much!

kirungi1 5th Jun 2015 12:20

Crew Visa; Who/how is this facility, Entry clearance, into Turkey for short haul, Russian, et cetera and indeed to other destinations where automatic entry is not in any privilege. I suppose this has a bearing on bidding!


In lay, how is entry arranged to certain Visa destinations, such as Turkey etc, at short notice especially for short haul for standby pilots and others?

Cattivo 5th Jun 2015 13:58

Kirungi1

Try arranging the above post into some sort of sentence. You might get the response you're looking for.

PS Apologies if you typed that whilst completely leathered, that would make perfect sense:)

kirungi1 5th Jun 2015 14:49


PS Apologies if you typed that whilst completely leathered, that would make perfect sense
Cattivo; Grandpa used to be a master of executive briefs - maybe his influence!:} Thanks for guidance.

clearofconflict 5th Jun 2015 19:02

It's done with Gendec's and passports from my experience, and has no effect on bidding.

Cheers

wiggy 5th Jun 2015 19:56

AFAIK the only country that BA operate into that demands crew have a formal printed visa stuck in their passport is the good old US of A, so if you end up going onto a fleet that visits the States you'll have some admin to do during the conversion course and a visit to a nice embassy near you. Every ten years you have to jump through the hoops again.

Most everywhere else it's done a clearofconflict describes, you gain entry with ID and/or Passport by the simple fact that you are on the General Declaration and in the case of the PRC, the company submits your name on the quaintly titled waterguard list....

kirungi1 5th Jun 2015 20:24

clearofconflict & wiggy; Thank you for your thorough responses :ok:

dave_1829 8th Jun 2015 14:30

Application Questions??
 
Hey Guys!
i know that the applications closed today (8th June) i had the screen up with the required questions on my Macbook, but accidentally refreshed it and its all disappeared :/ Now getting to my point, has ANYONE still got a copy of those questions they wanted us to answer as part of our application? As i would have completed my licence conversion prior to the next open date, and would love to start preparing those answers beforehand to save time!

Cheers

PS: If anyone has any gossip on the next openning dates, i understand its prob a guess at most - but all answers appreciated :)

manflexsrsrwy 8th Jun 2015 21:00

got my sod off letter today...very sad :(

PitchPitch 9th Jun 2015 22:31

Was that after the assessment day Manflx?

flite idol 10th Jun 2015 00:27


got my sod off letter today...very sad
Very sorry to hear that. I have so many sod off letters dating back decades. I have kept all of them and my retirement project is to wallpaper my downstairs loo with them so I can read them while.........well you know. I probably have enough for your loo too! Chin up........you will get where you want to be. Good luck!:ok:

manflexsrsrwy 10th Jun 2015 17:27

thanks , i will, got passed the assessment in 2008 but that only resulted in a years swim, since then been consistently told to sod off, 2011, 2014 & now 2015 without even attending crane bank again....puzzling to say the least

VJW 10th Jun 2015 21:05

That is unfortunate, and makes the whole system look a bit naff- how have you got worse over the years? :)

binsleepen 11th Jun 2015 21:33

Hi all,

BA is having a roadshow at at Gatwick for experienced airline pilots. Details and tickets can be found here: British Airways Flight Operations Pilot Recruitment Team Events | Eventbrite

Regards

WHYEYEMAN 11th Jun 2015 22:01

I wonder who they're targeting.......

glipglop 11th Jun 2015 22:09

Anyone else got their initial assessment on the 24th of June?

Or anyone done the assessment recently, and know what to expect? Thanks! :)

hautemude 12th Jun 2015 17:54

If you're thinking of it, don't bother since comprehension is quite important!

The presentations are aimed at experienced pilots including those who hold type ratings on any of the aircraft BA currently operates or has on order. We are not seeking attendees who are low-hour or trainee pilots, but if you fall into one of these categories we'd be delighted to meet you at one of the other events we support including Pilot Careers Live, formerly the Flyer Professional Flight Training Exhibition.

Cavallier 12th Jun 2015 22:25

They might have heard that there are alot of disgruntled Cathay Pacific guys and gals who are either 777, 747 or Airbus rated who might be interested.

SOPS 13th Jun 2015 04:08

Might be a few EK people interested as well.

bringbackthe80s 13th Jun 2015 09:03

What should make you wonder is why on earth would BA need to roadshows..? Not a good sign if you ask me

flyboy1818 13th Jun 2015 13:34

I went to the assessment (tests) yesterday and I'm non rated, with experience on a Biz Jet. I got the overall impression that BA are only really looking for A320 rated people and it seems quite strange that they have invited some non rated people for assessment. Still hoping to hear the good news next week, my fingers remain crossed!

glipglop 13th Jun 2015 13:40

How was the assessment flyboy1818? Just like the emails or anything out of the ordinary?

Best of luck!

VJW 13th Jun 2015 14:59

While I'm not A320 rated, it doesn't mention you need to be to attend this seminar. So I might pop by...

Capn 13th Jun 2015 15:04

Question regarding roadshows at Gatwick

A Flight instructor with 3000hrs, Non type rated, is it worth attending?

Too many hours to apply for FPP, not experienced enough for DEC as no Type rating. Stuck in between the two extremes.

Worth attending?

binsleepen 13th Jun 2015 16:30

Capn,

I am sorry to say that this is probably not for you. On the bright side though, with all the recruitment that BA is doing, sucking in pilots from other UK airlines, there should be plenty of opportunities come the autumn as these airlines start recruitment for next year.


What should make you wonder is why on earth would BA need to roadshows..? Not a good sign if you ask me
This will be just the first roadshow of many planned across the country. It should allow pilots to learn more about BA, ask a few questions and decide whether BA is for them prior to applying. It may cut down on wasted applications or persuade some to apply who thought they were not suitably qualified. A better understanding of BA and what it does or does not offer cannot be a bad thing surely (don't call me surely)

regards

sidtheesexist 13th Jun 2015 19:36

I agree BB80s......why on earth should Britain's legacy carrier, hitherto regarded as nirvana to many British airline pilots, be in need of road Shows?? Could it possibly be that folks out there are waking up to the fact that the grass on the BA side of the fence is'nt actually that green after all? I could post a helluva lot more but it might come back and bite me in the arse. Do your research folks to get the TRUE picture of what life in BA is really like. Don't be under any illusions as to how hard the company will work you should you join. I'm not suggesting BA is a bad company to work for but things have changed a heck of a lot over last coupla years and definitely not for the better. Good luck :ok:

Juan Tugoh 14th Jun 2015 07:03


Do your research folks to get the TRUE picture of what life in BA is really like. Don't be under any illusions as to how hard the company will work you should you join
Find out all you can from people on the fleets you are likely to join, find out from people who have joined recently what life is really like. BA rosters are different from other companies out there - there has been much talk in BA comparing Easyjet and Ryanair rostering to BA rostering, little of it favours BA at the moment.

Longhaul is different but is "evolving", the EASA FTLs that come in later this year are likely to change LH rostering hugely. Life in BA is very different to what it was two years ago when Bidline still existed.

wiggy 14th Jun 2015 07:15

Juan & Sid - Wise words....


when Bidline still existed.
:=

Exhibit A: My 2010 paper copy of Bidline Rules..
Exhibit B: The latest Notice/e-mail entitled something like: "Work Coverage; this month's attempt to get a quart out of a pint pot...."

Wirbelsturm 15th Jun 2015 08:14

Bidline?

Ballots?
New System?

Even that is back up in the air! Ludicrous situation all around! :ugh:

Right Engine 15th Jun 2015 08:32

I reckon the last remaining carrot to dangle is a DE Command at LGW.

bringbackthe80s 15th Jun 2015 08:34


This will be just the first roadshow of many planned across the country. It should allow pilots to learn more about BA, ask a few questions and decide whether BA is for them prior to applying. It may cut down on wasted applications or persuade some to apply who thought they were not suitably qualified. A better understanding of BA and what it does or does not offer cannot be a bad thing surely (don't call me surely)
binsleepen are you for real? I don't see AF, LH or KLM doing roadshows

manflexsrsrwy 15th Jun 2015 10:07

Question
 
Hi all, does anyone have any idea what the " unofficial cut off age" of BA is ? Through the years rumours I've heard vary from 28-32, anyone able to corroborate ? PM me if you prefer...
Surely galley fm has heard something different as there always is an exception to the "rule"

no sponsor 15th Jun 2015 10:12

There's no age limit. Lots of guys hired in their 30s, 40s etc.

Primary Governor 15th Jun 2015 10:16

Advertising again with new closing
date:

Airbus 320 First Officer Direct Entry (London - Heathrow)-Latest Pilot Jobs-Latest Pilot Jobs

I'm due to attend initial assessment in mind July. 0 jet experience and now 30 yrs old, just 1800 TT.

speedrestriction 15th Jun 2015 10:26


Originally Posted by bringbackthe80s (Post 9012097)
binsleepen are you for real? I don't see AF, LH or KLM doing roadshows

I would argue that, simply put, BA is no longer the employer of choice for those who wish to fly SH and live in the UK. From my own perspective: I cannot be bothered with LHR, the roster is worse than my current airline (5/3 5/4) where I am flying less than 800 hours per year. The financial package is not appreciably different either from what I can see.

BA need to be competing on either remuneration or lifestyle to attract more type rated, experienced folk from the UK to their SH fleet.

Wirbelsturm 15th Jun 2015 11:19


binsleepen are you for real? I don't see AF, LH or KLM doing roadshows
Sometimes you need to see the forest for the trees! A look at both Lufthansa's and Air France/KLM's current balance sheet, drastic cost cutting and future aircraft order book should tell you a lot about why they are NOT doing 'roadshows'.

A little rumour is going around that a bunch of managers were off to SEA to have a chat with Boeing about a future order of a large twin jet. Wonder which one that might be? Willie Walsh has stated in the past that IAG will no longer be a launch airline. A policy that has borne fruit after the messes that were the A380 and the 787. He also intimated that the order of 16 A350-1000's was a 'stop gap' measure.

A fair bit of smoke and mirrors from the management has resulted in, yet again, a lack of flight crew for this summer. The company wants to expand but is currently struggling to cover the summer flying programme. The source of DEP's is being trolled through, there are few, if any ex-Mil guys coming through and the FPP programme is, currently, choc-a-bloc.

Retirements are starting up again, fleets are expanding and the company is pushing to find people to join. Is it really only and all about T's & C's?

Yes we are all working harder, yes EASA is going to throw the whole mix back in the melting pot but I for one welcome recruitment if it reduces CAP.

All IMHO of course. :ok::}

Juan Tugoh 15th Jun 2015 13:14


Yes we are all working harder, yes EASA is going to throw the whole mix back in the melting pot but I for one welcome recruitment if it reduces CAP.
That is a huge "IF" there Wirbelsturm.

Wirbelsturm 15th Jun 2015 14:16

Granted. :{

Juan Tugoh 15th Jun 2015 14:31

LH command on 777 now down to nearly 1500. Looks like all the changes are finally starting to clear the log jam. Killing Bidline seems to have relieved the logjam caused by the changes to the retirement age. SH commands at 3100 too.

sandeagle2808 15th Jun 2015 14:41

DEP Day 1
 
Dear all,
Happy to read an email from BA to book a slot for Day 1 of DEP :)
I am currently on duty in Asia and very concerned about not preparing properly with the lack of time I have in front of me. For the ones who recently passed this first step: how much time did you allocate to your preparation? Preferable web sites? In total how many tests the D-Day: Math/physics+numerical+verbal reasoning+2 computer tests= 5?
For Computer tests are pen and paper authorized?
Thanks a lot,
sandeagle (would love to increase female FO ratio within BA ;))


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