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RexBanner 12th Jan 2020 14:07


Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach (Post 10660802)
Thank you.

wouldn’t be surprised if that ended sooner rather than later. People have been leaving inside their first couple of years in droves recently. It can’t have escaped BA’s attention, particularly in the current cost dominated climate.

Icanseeclearly 12th Jan 2020 19:41

Hardly leaving in Droves Rex (despite the best efforts of the company).

A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.

GS-Alpha 13th Jan 2020 09:57


Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly (Post 10661115)
Hardly leaving in Droves Rex (despite the best efforts of the company).
A quick look through the seniority lists shows about 30 “missing numbers” between seniority number 3400 - 4600 (estimate those with seniority 3400 joined about 5 years ago) works out at an attrition rate of 2.5% - surprisingly low considering.

That has just prompted me to take a look through the PRIAM results to see for myself and I agree, the number of people leaving is exceedingly low despite the rumours suggesting otherwise. I can count only 10 missing numbers before people are getting multiple valid bids (presumably about the 5 years in position).

FACoff 13th Jan 2020 10:27

Expect there'll be a good number off to Virgin when contracts start going out. I do fly with many who are 'looking' but with Brexit hanging over the industry at the moment it's a risky time to move. Last in, first out.

3Greens 13th Jan 2020 15:53


Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10661502)
That has just prompted me to take a look through the PRIAM results to see for myself and I agree, the number of people leaving is exceedingly low despite the rumours suggesting otherwise. I can count only 10 missing numbers before people are getting multiple valid bids (presumably about the 5 years in position).

about 20 Dutch guys/girls left a couple of years ago as KLM were recruiting. Mainly from our P777 status. I do fly with lots of junior FO’s who are looking at other options. In particular virgin at Manchester for the NW commuters.

Heisenb3rg 15th Jan 2020 17:09


Originally Posted by GS-Alpha (Post 10637097)
Heisenb3rg, take a look at my post #6672 of this thread.



sorry, another part time question... if you were 75% 3 on / 1 off, could you tag your leave weeks onto the part time week off? And what about the DFW? And how would reserve work? Cheers


GS-Alpha 15th Jan 2020 20:35


Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg (Post 10663783)
sorry, another part time question... if you were 75% 3 on / 1 off, could you tag your leave weeks onto the part time week off? And what about the DFW? And how would reserve work? Cheers

Yes you can bid for your leave and duty free weeks to abut your part time days, but this is subject to the normal leave bidding process and you having enough points to obtain the weeks you are wanting.

75% reserve takes place within your three weeks on (rather than a full timer’s 4 weeks), but you earn the same points as a full timer. There are 6 fixed days off within those 21 days (2 blocks of 3 days in long haul, and 3 blocks of 2 days in short haul).

V1_cut 17th Jan 2020 19:25

Anyone know good websites for interview prep? Is it always the case you will hear from day 1 after a few days or can the interview/group ex be taken after the mathematical and verbal reasoning section?

capt.sparrow 17th Jan 2020 20:27

There has been some opportunity to make a whole day of it and do a combined testing, interview and group ex all in one day. When you get invited to first stage and book online have a look if a combined stage 1 and 2 is available. Otherwise you will do them separately. Re interview - it's all competency based ie tell me a time when.... Make sure you know why you want to join and know your stuff else you'll be weeded out!

g118 22nd Jan 2020 08:59

Any news about the pool?
 
Any news on starting dates/fleets soon. Last people out of the pool? Thanks. Best luck to all.

Phantom4 22nd Jan 2020 18:59

Colleague offered LH hold pool or A320 with April start date.He has taken320,good move.
First quarter seems to be LH,second quarter SH as 320 in house released to LH

Lordflasheart 22nd Jan 2020 19:00

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sorry, another part time question... if you were 75% 3 on / 1 off, could you tag your leave weeks onto the part time week off? And what about the DFW? And how would reserve work? Cheers.
Answer ... Probably not ....

Apparently there's a big recurring whinge going on about the credited hour system making you work far harder in the month in which you have leave, than even in a fully screwed up JSS month. Then they ask to buy back your leave for peanuts and apparently the leave doesn't get replaced either. Counter productive and oppressive, or what ?

BigQ - "Where's the regulator on this ?" - UsualA - "Sunk with the Belgrano. " ;)

Referring back to my post #6695 some ten pages ago,

Our LH Pub Mole tried to explain but in between laughing, crying and spilling his beer, the only bit that made sense was ....

If you're part time you will be cheated out of two or three free days each month. Your part time days will start the day after your last trip. You will lose the industrial rest days (usually two for longhaul) that ordinarily follow the trip. You will therefore become available to work again, two days earlier than a full time pilot.

Part timers are thus working harder pro-rata than their full time mates. This doesn't happen in VS.

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g118 22nd Jan 2020 23:38


Originally Posted by Phantom4 (Post 10668955)
Colleague offered LH hold pool or A320 with April start date.He has taken320,good move.
First quarter seems to be LH,second quarter SH as 320 in house released to LH


Thanks, hope to hear soon.

Sheep Worrier 23rd Jan 2020 07:43


Originally Posted by Phantom4 (Post 10668955)
Colleague offered LH hold pool or A320 with April start date.He has taken320,good move.
First quarter seems to be LH,second quarter SH as 320 in house released to LH

I've heard of people at my outfit being offered 320, "take it or leave it".

The two I know of are both leaving it.

RexBanner 23rd Jan 2020 08:25

How old are they though? If they’re less than 30 and their true endgame is BA long haul then imho it’s a foolish decision. Their seniority will jump far quicker on SH as opposed to being endlessly junior as a LH pilot doing six low credit crap trips missing virtually an entire week of sleep in the calendar month.

Stocious 23rd Jan 2020 12:23


second quarter SH as 320 in house released to LH
I'll believe that when I see it.

Phantom4 23rd Jan 2020 15:07

You have a short time window to accept or decline then they just contact next on the pool list.
Many people going down to MSL 3750 coming out of SH freeze and release for aspirational LH bid.
350 fleet will have nine aircraft end 2020.

A320LGW 23rd Jan 2020 16:28

Is it anticipated for there to be another hiring phase at some point this year?

The Foss 23rd Jan 2020 23:34


Originally Posted by Sheep Worrier (Post 10669281)
I've heard of people at my outfit being offered 320, "take it or leave it".

The two I know of are both leaving it.

I believe at the sim check the assessor has a ‘suitable for long haul’ field to tick or not, which might explain why some get offered a choice and some don’t.

RexBanner 24th Jan 2020 07:44


Originally Posted by The Foss (Post 10669919)
I believe at the sim check the assessor has a ‘suitable for long haul’ field to tick or not, which might explain why some get offered a choice and some don’t.

Also known as the “what type rating is on their licence” field. It’s utter nonsense. The BA sim has always been about being able to demonstrate the ability to pass a Type Rating on a Long Haul fleet.


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