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This sounds promising as I’m waiting for a SH start date. Though last week I received an email saying manpower plan not yet sorted so unable to offer start dates for 2020 at the moment...Anybody else know of any movement?

capt.sparrow

24th Nov 2019 08:14

Friend of mine got the call yesterday for LHR SH. He is already A320 typed. 3 months in the pool.

Jwscud

24th Nov 2019 13:10

Hopefully suggests for the rest of us the manpower plan is approaching a publishable form.

Interesting as always to see how close the rumours approach to reality.

RexBanner

24th Nov 2019 17:49

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Originally Posted by Jwscud (Post 10625479)

Hopefully suggests for the rest of us the manpower plan is approaching a publishable form.

Interesting as always to see how close the rumours approach to reality.

doesnt help when you’re pushed 787 manuals on DocuNet by mistake, just to give a bit of false hope then exacerbate the pain of NV when it inevitably comes.

GS-Alpha

24th Nov 2019 18:46

I know people who have been pleasantly surprised to be given 787 command on type courses in January Rex, so perhap P2 will also have gone more junior than expected. The results will be with us soon enough.

tripplesevven

25th Nov 2019 02:07

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Originally Posted by Biggles88 (Post 10624293)

Hi Ladies and Gents

I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent positive news in the hold pool or are having a similar experience?

Ive been in the pool since the start of March. During my assessment I was told if successful to expect a call very soon as the pool was very low. After a couple of months without hearing anything I contacted them as they said no training was scheduled till the end of summer. Towards the end of July I got a call to expect a start date in Q1 2020 and I would receive that date in September, possibly into October. It’s now end of November and still no date and to be honest the recent emails from them have start to make me wonder whether it will happen at all.

I appreciate all this is subject to change when your in the hold pool, and I’ve heard people were waiting 24 months plus in the pool a couple of years ago. I just feel on the basis of what I have been told from the start it all feels a bit disconcerting. Just wondering if anyone is going through the same?

Same situation as you. The current line seems to be "finalising the training plan for 2020"

I've heard rumours this is dependant upon the current negotiations being completed. Would be great if someone in the know could confirm whether this is likely true or not.

Tvm

Safety_

25th Nov 2019 10:20

Things are moving...

Any more good news? :D Keep it coming! Us swimmers will hopefully be rescued soon

boeing89

25th Nov 2019 11:22

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Originally Posted by capt.sparrow (Post 10625250)

Friend of mine got the call yesterday for LHR SH. He is already A320 typed. 3 months in the pool.

Has anyone without a 320 rating been called for a SH start yet? Or should those of us that are not rated expect to swim a little longer?

Safety_

25th Nov 2019 11:37

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Originally Posted by boeing89 (Post 10626099)

Has anyone without a 320 rating been called for a SH start yet? Or should those of us that are not rated expect to swim a little longer?

A320 no call yet

aaa333

25th Nov 2019 12:53

Does Anyone have the Paypoint 34 (PP34) Payscale that new joiners will join on?

What can you expect the starting salary to be on Short Haul and Long Haul?

I know theres a payrise negotiation going on but just interested in the numbers as they currently stand.

Cheers

VinRouge

25th Nov 2019 17:14

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Originally Posted by aaa333 (Post 10626171)

pilots job network fairly accurate for LH.
https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/British_Airways

i think the full full scale is on the Balpa website, airline documents > BA MOA (Salary Annexe). Oh, important point, pension is based upon the 24 point payscale, so your employer contributions go up quicker than salary. There are seperate scales for
LGW and LHR SH as well as LH.

Pay settlement is looking at 11.5% over 3 years; there are other odds and sods thrown in that will give you an extra (minor) boost in salary. Stuff like an extra quid per hour Flight Duty Pay. If it’s signed off of course!!!

wiggy

25th Nov 2019 18:55

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Originally Posted by VinRouge (Post 10626320)

pilots job network fairly accurate for LH.
https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/British_Airways

i think the full full scale is on the Balpa website, airline documents > BA MOA (Salary Annexe).

Yep, the year one FO Base figure ties from "pilotjobs" in ties in pretty much exactly with the BA MOA numbers so I'd suggest that (public) site is giving reasonably accurate info regarding basic pay last time everything was updated.

Banana Joe

25th Nov 2019 20:42

What's the average experience for direct entry FO with no A320 type rating on the short haul fleet?

Stocious

25th Nov 2019 23:13

Doubt there is one. If you have the hours requirement and pass the assessment, you're in.

JulietSierra6

26th Nov 2019 06:42

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Originally Posted by VinRouge (Post 10626320)

There are seperate scales for
LGW and LHR SH as well

True, but just to be clear to new joiners there is no difference until 15years in as an FO or 24years Captain. So I wouldn’t worry about it.

aaa333

26th Nov 2019 12:33

Thanks for that link and help guys!

the link just has PP1 and PP34. If year 1 LH at the current contract is 4300 net, do you know what years 5 and 10 would be as a rough guide?

cheers!

Mooney_tunes

26th Nov 2019 15:33

Every year it rises by 2500 gross I think

HEJT2015

26th Nov 2019 19:20

What length of commute is feasible for a junior FO SH LHR?

Northern Monkey

26th Nov 2019 23:14

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Originally Posted by HEJT2015 (Post 10627209)

What length of commute is feasible for a junior FO SH LHR?

As little as possible. I would say any more than an hour would be painful. Preferably less.